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Title: Military Whistleblower Claims She Witnessed Flight 93 Shootdown Order Private stationed at Fort Meade on 9/11 gives astounding interview
Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/militar ... flight-93-shootdown-order.html
Published: Apr 8, 2009
Author: Paul Joseph Watson
Post Date: 2009-04-10 21:00:07 by Itistoolate
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Military Whistleblower Claims She Witnessed Flight 93 Shootdown Order Private stationed at Fort Meade on 9/11 gives astounding interview Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com

Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Military Whistleblower Claims She Witnessed Flight 93 Shootdown Order

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A woman who claims she was stationed at Fort Meade on September 11, 2001, has given an explosive interview about how she personally heard military commanders make the decision to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 on 9/11.

A person using the pseudonym Elizabeth Nelson told The Project Camelot website that she personally heard officials agree on the order to shoot down Flight 93. The decision was apparently made because the plane was flying in a no-fly zone near to Camp David and heading toward Site R, a military facility in known as the “backup Pentagon”.

Nelson stresses that at no time was there any talk of “hijackers,” and the plane was shot down purely because communication had been lost and standard operating procedure mandated that the plane be intercepted and destroyed.

Because the woman refuses to provide her real name, the authenticity of her story is very much up for debate, but in a 40 minute MP3 recording (click here to listen) of the interview, she relates what she witnessed in as sincere and genuine a way as one could expect. This individual has seemingly little to gain from making up such a story, unless it’s part of a deliberate disinformation campaign.

Nelson says that she was stationed at at Fort Meade under the Kimbrough Ambulatory Care Center Hospital and was training as a radiologic technologist having finished basic training three weeks prior. On 9/11, her rank was Private First Class.

Nelson relates how 9/11 started as a routine day before a higher ranked soldier suddenly emerged from another room and exclaimed, “Holy shit! I just saw a plane crash into one of the Twin Towers.”

Nelson and her colleagues then gathered around the TV in the hospital lobby before they saw the second plane hit the tower. Despite the fact that the first plane strike was not broadcast on live television, Nelson was adamant that the soldier was referring to the first plane when he first spoke. Nelson says that when she first saw the live TV pictures, only one tower was on fire, so the soldier could not have been referring to a replay of the second hit. In the interview, Nelson speculates that the first hit could have been broadcast on an internal military channel. President Bush once famously claimed that he had seen the first plane hit and thought that it was a case of pilot error, despite there being no live TV footage of the first plane strike.

While the majority of the personnel on the base scrambled to protect the facility as part of standard operating procedure, Nelson and a colleague were offered up by their First Sergeant to act as assistants to the Commander of the Base.

“All the other departments of soldiers - the nursing department, the clerical, administrational department - everybody sent their base soldiers there and I didn’t see them anymore. So basically the hospital was not fully active at that point. Everything was on hold,” said Nelson, adding, “And so I remember the room that they took us into. And they told us that we were in charge of, you know, getting coffees, any kind of snacks from the cafeteria - not cafeteria, like from the snack machines or from the place where you can get little snacks - in charge of making photocopies because she and I had the access codes for the rooms, to get in there.”

Nelson and her colleague were sat at the far end of the room and told to face the wall as the meeting of top officials on the base commenced.

“And there was probably six or seven men around this very large table, just like you would see in a big office somewhere. And they had this funny phone. It was like a conference-call phone. And I remember them sitting there and they were talking through this phone. And it seemed to me that they were talking to one or two other places,” said Nelson, adding that she suspected the men were in contact with the West Point military base an hour north of New York City.

The men were trying to ascertain what was going on and quickly expressed concern about Camp David and “Site R” and stating words to the effect of, “Protocol is that this is a no-fly zone. We have to take this plane down. Yes, it’s a passenger plane. It needs to be taken down. It’s a no-fly zone.”

According to Wikipedia, Site R, otherwise known as The Raven Rock Mountain Complex (RRMC) or the Underground Pentagon, is a United States government facility on Raven Rock, a mountain in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. The facility houses the ANMCC (Alternate National Military Command Center), JSSC (Joint Staff Support Center), OSD/DHS (Office of the Secretary of Defense/Department of Homeland Security), and the 114th Signal Battalion. RRMC also houses the emergency operations centers for the Army, Navy and Air Force.

“I didn’t hear a thing about hijackers,” states Nelson, “We just heard that this plane was flying in a no-fly zone and they couldn’t make contact with the plane, or something like this. There was no communication. Protocol says it has to be taken out. And so I was in this room when the decision was mutually made by the people talking on the phone in the room that I was in, to shoot this plane down.”

“It didn’t feel like anybody knew that there was anything with terrorists,” added Nelson, saying that the officers mentioned the attack on the twin towers but only in the context that they didn’t know where Flight 93 was heading. She got the impression that they were genuinely unaware of the wider 9/11 plot, as would be expected in a compartmentalized structure, and that they were simply following military protocol.

Nelson recalls how she later felt revulsion after she saw news reports about how Flight 93 had supposedly been taken down by brave passengers.

“I remember the distinct feeling inside of me of when I saw on the news that there was this story that there were terrorists on this plane, and that the people overtook the pilot and crashed the plane, - I mean, overtook the terrorists and crashed the plane themselves. And how this was leaking out as these people being heroes,” she states.

“And I remember the extreme moral frustration inside of me, of feeling: But that’s not true! That’s not true at all! We shot this down. And a huge conflict inside of me, of knowing that the world is made to believe this story that’s not true.”

Nelson subsequently felt frustrated when anyone talked about the manufactured myth of the Flight 93 heroes.

“I also remember the confronting feeling when I would be around … because there were civilians that worked in the hospital as well. And then when they would talk about the heroes and these things, the conflict that I had inside of myself was wanting to bust out and say: That’s not true!,” she states.

“They didn’t crash the plane. If they would have crashed it, there would have been a skeleton of the plane. There was no… Nothing. It was blown up.”

Nelson speculated that the errant aircraft could have been originally heading for New York City (Building 7?) before the passengers retook control of the aircraft and started aimlessly flying it elsewhere.

“The only thing I can think is if the third plane was also intended for somewhere in the city [New York City] as well, and that the people actually did take over the hijackers and divert the plane so that the plane ended up flying aimlessly someplace else. And of course the people don’t know how to talk over the radio or any of these things. And that’s maybe something that happened,” she states.

The biggest argument against Nelson’s claims is the hard to accept notion that she and another Private were allowed to sit within earshot of top military commanders making monumental decisions about national security. If the commanders had needed people to make photocopies of documents and bring snacks and drinks as Nelson describes, then why not just have them on call in a different room? One would expect that a military complex have sophisticated communication connections that would have easily facilitated such a scenario.

Then again, if all the other active duty personnel were busy defending the base it could be argued that in the midst of the chaos, Nelson and her colleague were called upon.

Whether or not Nelson’s story is true, the fact that Flight 93 was shot down is one of the most glaring holes in the official 9/11 story.

Footage of the crash site showed barely any debris whatsoever. Compare this to any other plane crash in history and the contrast is astounding.

The debris field of Flight 93 was eight miles wide - investigators found a second debris field three miles away from the main crash site at Indian Lake, and a third debris field in New Baltimore, eight miles away. This is entirely consistent with the plane having been shot down.

Several eyewitnesses described hearing explosions before Flight 93 crashed and others said they heard missiles.

The Flight93Crash website has a compilation of eyewitness reports all attesting to the fact that the plane was shot down.

Donald Rumsfeld himself said that Flight 93 was “shot down” in an apparent slip of the tongue on December 24, 2004.

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

KOOK!!! ROTFLOL!!! /BeAChooser

Figured you might be missing that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-10   22:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

in an apparent slip of the tongue on December 24, 2004.

Be wary of some of these types of things. Remember the "no plane hit the Pentagon" thing and Rumsfeld supposedly slipped and said a missile hit it? That was a planned slip of the tongue. Remember the Thierry Meyssan disinfo web site that supposedly provided evidence that a plane did not hit the Pentagon? Guess what? His site was paid for by the govt and he was paid quite well to manage it, to write a book and to go public (interviews etc.) with this disinformation. The idea behind this was if they can draw the public's attention to these types of conspiracy theories and easily disprove them then it draws attention away from the real issues and causes people to lose interest.

Supposedly tho, there was a woman who saw an American fighter shoot down flight 93 and then was prevented (paid, threatened, who knows) from talking about after first talking with local reporters.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-04-10   22:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate, James Deffenbach (#0)

Because "Elizabeth Nelson" gave her rank and MOS and even volunteered that she had finished basic three weeks before it would be a simple matter to identify her, so, she is either criminally stupid or pursuing an agenda secure in the belief that she won't be harmed.

I believe we can safely discount this crock o' dew dew as a govt campaign to explain away some glaring inconsistencies that won't go away and are forcing people to think.

Even in the unlikely event that there were a hundred women (and men-to be on the safe side) that met that description at Ft. Meade at the time, the govt could arrange to load them all on a single plane and fly it into a pea soup fog near some mountains, and then it wouldn't even be necessary to identify the dirty rotten rat snitch once her ass was canceled like a stamp....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-10   23:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

Supposedly tho, there was a woman who saw an American fighter shoot down flight 93 and then was prevented (paid, threatened, who knows) from talking about (it) after first talking with local reporters.

I believe this is the more plausible explanation for the wreckage spread over many miles and as the PA Coroner noted the total absence of blood and innards at a plane crash, which was immediately suspect and never explained.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-10   23:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)

Because "Elizabeth Nelson" gave her rank and MOS and even volunteered that she had finished basic three weeks before it would be a simple matter to identify her, so, she is either criminally stupid or pursuing an agenda secure in the belief that she won't be harmed.

If she is on the up and up she had better go public. STAT!

Otherwise she is a Dead Woman Walking.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-10   23:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Nelson stresses that at no time was there any talk of “hijackers,” and the plane was shot down purely because communication had been lost and standard operating procedure mandated that the plane be intercepted and destroyed.

Wait a minute. I thought this plane landed in Cleveland? Whatever was shot down wasn't flight 93 IMO. Could have been a real "terrorist" for all we know.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-11   0:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#0)

According to Wikipedia, Site R, otherwise known as The Raven Rock Mountain Complex (RRMC) or the Underground Pentagon, is a United States government facility on Raven Rock, a mountain in the U.S. state of Pennsylvania. The facility houses the ANMCC (Alternate National Military Command Center), JSSC (Joint Staff Support Center), OSD/DHS (Office of the Secretary of Defense/Department of Homeland Security), and the 114th Signal Battalion. RRMC also houses the emergency operations centers for the Army, Navy and Air Force.

Fallout 3 bump!!

echo5sierra  posted on  2009-04-11   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#6)

Wait a minute. I thought this plane landed in Cleveland? Whatever was shot down wasn't flight 93 IMO. Could have been a real "terrorist" for all we know.

It was shot down to provide credibility to the whole, "19 filthy ol' AyRabs dun attacked Uhmerka!" story. But, only two heavily insured and asbestos'd buildings needed to be hit by planes and collapse to eliminate the catastrophic costs of demolition (the scaffolding rental alone would have been in excess of one billion dollars) and to have insurance companies instead of Lucky Larry pay for it all.

And, only one building needed to be struck by a Global Hawk in order to kill auditors who were chasing the missing trillions that were miracled out of The Pentagram without a trace (well, except for the giant Israeli footprint over the whole day's terrible consequences)

And, only one building needed to collapse into its own footprint in order to destroy the evidence of numerous SEC investigations into "financial irregularities" unique to the Zionist controlled swindle known as (Wailing) Wall Street, and in the process evidence related to the OKC bombing was also "lost".

So, the govt needed only to put out the story that 93 was headed for DC on a suicide collision course with one of our national treasures only to come up short thanks to the bravery and selfless sacrifices of passengers who fought the terrorists for control and crashed the plane in PA, and thereby denying the terrorists their glory.

But, now that the evidence of the widespread wreckage pattern and absence of a fuselage, wings or engines, luggage, blood and dismembered remains at the crash site is waking America up, the whisper campaign has been kicked off in earnest. And, we the gullible patriots who never doubt our fearless and honorable leaders are supposed to believe that the plane was indeed hijacked by filthy ol' haters, and because the cell phone calls were not possible it was simply a regrettable but necessary standard procedure to shoot down any aircraft that threatened to penetrate Camp David airspace even though the president was a thousand miles away and in no danger from any of the "hijacked aircraft".

So, if the unofficial story can find purchase on the rocky cliff of the American psyche then the shills can use it to counter the damaging crash site evidence while relieving the govt of any financial responsibility as the official report (like the now discredited Warren Commission report) still stands for sentimental reasons, and because nature abhors a vacuum and will fill it with flatulence if necessary.

We will readily accept the "duality" of this constantly evolving evidence just as we've done so many times before so we, the little monkey children of America don't experience a crisis of faith in our government, or begin to suspect that a PNAC agenda (OPERATION "TRINITITE THE MIDDLE EAST") was indeed set in motion on that terrible day ....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-11   1:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#5)

Because "Elizabeth Nelson" gave her rank and MOS and even volunteered that she had finished basic three weeks before it would be a simple matter to identify her, so, she is either criminally stupid or pursuing an agenda secure in the belief that she won't be harmed.

If she is on the up and up she had better go public. STAT!

Otherwise she is a Dead Woman Walking.

Well, if she's legit (and I have doubts) she's already under CIA control (Alex Jones-Prison Planet) and the moment and circs of her death are likely destined to take place upon alignment of the correct celestial bodies that will coincide with the Illuminist Articles Of Faith and Protocols For Human Sacrifice.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-11   1:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8) (Edited)

Yeah but supposedly there were eyewitnesses that saw flight 93 at the Cleavland airport on 9/11 and passengers get off and taken to a NASA hanger never to be seen from again. It was even reported on some Cleavland news media outlets for a short time to then never to be mentioned again.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-11   1:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: HOUNDDAWG (#9)

UAL Flight 93 Landed Safely At Cleveland Hopkins Airport Plane Lands In Cleveland - Bomb Feared Aboard 8-7-4

Reported by 9News Staff Web produced by:Liz Foreman 9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did not say how many people were aboard the flight.

United said it was also "deeply concerned" about another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was bound from Boston to Los Angeles.

On behalf of the airline CEO James Goodwin said: "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved.

"United is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights," he said.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-11   1:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: RickyJ (#10)

Yeah but supposedly there were eyewitnesses that saw flight 93 at the Cleavland airport on 9/11 and passengers get off and taken to a NASA hanger never to be seen from again. It was even reported on some Cleavland news media outlets for a short time to then never to be mentioned again.

It could have been that 93 had VIPs on board that the planners were not prepared to sacrifice which would explain a pit stop/passenger shuffle, and/or the plane had to be switched in order to pilot it remotely to the point where it could be destroyed without endangering any "non Christian" lives.

(just as the bombing of the OKC Murrah Bldg resulted in no loss of "precious lives" (i.e. politicians, bankers or Israelis)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-11   1:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ, HOUNDDAWG (#11)

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0326-04.htm

March 26, 2002

WASHINGTON — The U.S. government, through Solicitor General Theodore Olson, officially announced last week that when the government chooses to lie, the public's business is none of the public's business.

That was last Monday. The setting was the Supreme Court, and Olson put it this way: "It is easy to imagine an infinite number of situations ... where government officials might quite legitimately have reasons to give false information out."

litus  posted on  2009-04-11   1:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itistoolate (#0)

The thing to remember is that in the military or government in general you cannot be disciplined for following regulations whereas if you used commonsense and something went wrong you'd be in big trouble. It's rather strange that a fighter jet wasn't dispatched to fly alongside Flight 93 to look "inside" to figure out what's going on.

Other than making the military look bad there's really little significance to Nelson's disclosure of the military doing what regulations told them to do. Her disclosure may actually do some good by having the regulations changed to "look" before you shoot.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2009-04-11   7:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tatarewicz (#14) (Edited)

Prison Planet video forum

forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=66.0

911 Hoax.net

911hoax.net/911_Hoax/

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-04-11   8:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HOUNDDAWG, Christine, Itistoolate, Jethro Tull, All (#3)

Because "Elizabeth Nelson" gave her rank and MOS and even volunteered that she had finished basic three weeks before it would be a simple matter to identify her, so, she is either criminally stupid or pursuing an agenda secure in the belief that she won't be harmed.

Sheesh!

I was twice Married to an Army Nurse.

This purported gal wouldn't have been a PFC out of Basic Training & would have, at the very best, been in training that soon as a "91-Charlie" [old days] now a "68WM6" (MOS) - at San Antonio! {Practical Nurse}. She sure as hell wouldn't have held any more than a "Confidential" security clearance, at best, & wouldn't have been allowed near that event.

Talk about selling bullshit as propaganda! (Apparently it works, judging by how many bought into it.)

This isn't the first that I've seen on this article. A lot of "old" 9-11 bullshit propaganda has recently been passed my way (bad mistake!). What's with uptick in 9-11 propaganda? A public gullibility research test?

It makes me wary.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-04-11   12:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SKYDRIFTER (#16)

Sheesh!

I was twice Married to an Army Nurse.

This purported gal wouldn't have been a PFC out of Basic Training & would have, at the very best, been in training that soon as a "91-Charlie" [old days] now a "68WM6" (MOS) - at San Antonio! {Practical Nurse}. She sure as hell wouldn't have held any more than a "Confidential" security clearance, at best, & wouldn't have been allowed near that event.

Talk about selling bullshit as propaganda! (Apparently it works, judging by how many bought into it.)

This isn't the first that I've seen on this article. A lot of "old" 9-11 bullshit propaganda has recently been passed my way (bad mistake!). What's with uptick in 9-11 propaganda? A public gullibility research test?

It makes me wary.

Worth a bump for others to see.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-12   5:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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