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Title: Anti-Obama Taxpayer Tea Parties steeped in insanity
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URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion ... pr15,0,2784720.story?track=rss
Published: Apr 15, 2009
Author: Marc Cooper
Post Date: 2009-04-15 08:39:28 by Refinersfire
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he Web is buzzing with information about how to throw an anti-Obama Taxpayer Tea Party, something organizers hope will be held today from Santa Monica to South Carolina. But no need to burn up your bandwidth reading complicated instructions. Here's a simpler recipe: Go to a hobby store. Buy a scale model of a U.N. One-World-Government Black Helicopter and a tube of glue. Toss the model kit. Sniff the entire tube of glue. You're all set for the party. I can recall only a few outbreaks of such collective insanity as these tea parties in recent years. There was that time in the mid-1990s when a $19.95 video proving Bill Clinton was some sort of serial killer went viral. And then, a few years back, there was that chilling, televised midnight seance from the floor of the U.S. Congress aimed at reviving the long-brain-dead Terri Schiavo. And now this. Whip out your Lipton and don your tinfoil hat and join the protest against ... against ... against what exactly? The original Boston Tea Party was caffeinated by a very simple injustice: American Colonists refused to be taxed by a government that lacked any popular representation. That was remedied a few years later in a heroic struggle that stretched from Concord to Yorktown. So, if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor, what's the beef behind today's protests? The Obama administration is cutting taxes for all except the very richest of Americans. Reduced withholding is already showing up in millions of paychecks. Then again, this rash of tea parties is being organized not only by the pseudo-journalists at Fox News (with Glenn Beck, Neil Cavuto and Sean Hannity actively stoking the flames) but also by FreedomWorks, a conservative lobbying outfit headed by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey. I suppose it was Armey's constitutional if morally dubious privilege to have built an entire political career out of defending the wealthy. But are common folks actually going to dump Earl Grey into Santa Monica Bay because they are outraged, simply infuriated, by the marginal tax rate rising 3% for millionaires? Or maybe they'll do it for some other reason. The FreedomWorks site says the Tea Party movement began in reaction to President Obama's corporate bailouts and ensuing yawning budget deficits. These same conservatives, however, were mum when George W. Bush erased our budget surplus and put us deep in the red by drunken spending on a pointless war in Iraq and by, yes, granting massive tax rollbacks for the loaded country clubbers who fund the GOP (and Armey's FreedomWorks). Another bothersome detail: The bailouts were also initiated by Bush. Nobody I know is very pleased with the billions ladled out to teetering banks and corporations. Yet a clear majority of Americans are sophisticated enough to know that these bailouts are a necessary evil and are intended -- unlike the lollipop Bush tax cuts -- not for personal profit but rather as a radical, emergency measure to help Americans keep their jobs, their homes and their retirement. And while way too many otherwise sane Republicans are actively pandering to the tea-bag battalions, some old-fashioned conservatives are calling out the Teabaggers for their silliness. Writing in Fortune magazine, conservative policy analyst Bruce Bartlett, who has a long anti-tax history, says: "The irony of these protests is that federal revenues as a share of the gross domestic product will be lower this year than any year since 1950. ... The truth is that the U.S. is a relatively low-tax country no matter how you slice the data." The Tea Party movement, more than anything else, is a rather garish display of a Republican right that seems to have lost not only the national elections but also any semblance of political bearings. Staying on this course, the GOP risks -- in the words of one pundit -- becoming "the Talk Radio Republican Party." Better put that kettle on, Marge. It's going to be a long and bizarre four years. Marc Cooper is director of Annenberg Digital News at the Annenberg School for Communication at USC.
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#27. To: Rhino369 (#22)
LOL... try again.. I don't vote out of fear.. never have, never will..
You are more then welcome..
They are stealing real anger and using it to elect republicans. You shouldn't applaud that.
Yes, it does.. :-)
Your post(s) prove that you have severe reading comprehension problems. Very severe. Seek help while there is yet time. Almost everyone at these rallys will vote republican next election no matter who the republican is. We both know it.
So we should elect Democrats instead?.. see how that works both ways.. As for me, I'll vote for the Best Man/Woman for the job at hand.. no more, no less..
You just don't get it do you.. right here on this thread, you have two posters that will do no such thing, yet you continue to post your thoughts, that those like James and I (and many others), will.. (insert head slapping smiley here)
From an article Christine just posted a few minutes ago: Likewise, I spoke to an organizer for the Knoxville tea party who said that no "professional politicians" were going to be allowed to speak, and he made a big point of saying that the protest wasn't an anti-Obama protest, it was an anti-establishment protest. I've heard similar things from tea-party organizers in other cities, too. Though critics will probably try to write the tea parties off as partisan publicity stunts, they're really a post-partisan expression of outrage. Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I am afraid his dislike of Bush or his love of the Obamasiah has done drove the boy over the edge. It seems that simple English is beyond him these days. Sad business that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I'm going and I haven't voted R since '88.
You just don't get it do you.. right here on this thread, you have two posters that will do no such thing, yet you continue to post your thoughts, that those like James and I (and many others), will.. (insert head slapping smiley here) You don't possibly think the 4um is representive of the tea bag movement do you? The number of tea baggers who watch Glen Beck, and Rush dwarf the people like you.
This began with Rick Santelli on CNBC, not Beck.
When Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele asked to speak at the Chicago tea party, his request was politely refused by the organizers: "With regards to stage time, we respectfully must inform Chairman Steele that RNC officials are welcome to participate in the rally itself, but we prefer to limit stage time to those who are not elected officials, both in Government as well as political parties. This is an opportunity for Americans to speak, and elected officials to listen, not the other way around." I posted it again in case you missed it the first time. And it seems you did.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You aren't the average tea bagger. You were pissed about these issues years ago. The tea baggers only got pissed when the democrats took power. You are wasting your time. These protests are sponsored by the republican party, and promoted by Fox News.
The recent history of this country records that for most of the past 28 years, the "R"s have been in control of at least two of the three branches of the federal government and have been responsible therefore for a series of failed imperial wars and the massive looting of the Treasury which has ensued therefrom. The GOPers began to worship war and militarism under Reagan and then Darth and the Chimp kicked it up several notches higher until now we are collapsing into a Third World hellhole. There was a critical period of time after the end of the Cold War when the U.S. should have converted to a civilian goods-producing economy. For whatever reason, even Clinton could not force the MIC to demobilize, even if he had wanted them to. Thus, we are screwed and have no future, other than to fire off the nukes (which Darth Cheney very badly wanted to do and nearly succeeded on Aug. 30, 2007).
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
This began with Rick Santelli on CNBC, not Beck. They are being organized by Dick Army's lobby groups. http:// thinkprogress.org/2009/04...bying-clients-teaparties/
there were more wars started under D admins. then when Rs were the majority, the Ds in congress voted for these wars too. it's been a joint effort/agenda. members of both parties do the bidding of their banker masters.
And my history through ALL of that 28 years (and more) is that I don't vote for establishment whores no matter which letter they tag on to their name. It seems that some folks are very selective in which members of the gang they choose to despise. Now that the Obamasiah and the D's are in control do you see ANY difference? Have they ended even one war or conflict or whatever the popular buzzword is? Have they stopped pissing away other people's money? No? I didn't think so.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Everyone who is going to these protests, ask your fellow protestors their feelings on the war on terrorism, the drug war, the government spying on people it says are terrorists, the ability of the government to censor immoral media, etc etc. We all know what you'll find. These people hate liberty as much as they did in Oct 2008. They are just out of power.
It's all one party with different members of the gang fighting over the figurehead position. Whichever one wins is nothing more than the puppet of the real masters behind the curtain and no matter which one wins, America loses.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. If I sense the Rs are in front of the event I'm going to, I'll leave and let you know.
And the sad thing for you is that your D's are no better than those R's you despise so much. You still haven't snapped to the fact that Obama is just as much owned as Bush is. Maybe it will dawn on you one of these days.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The executive branch, since it usurped all power and gradually morphed into a presidential dictatorship (post-National Security Act of 1947), starts all the wars. Since Reagan took office, all the interventions/wars have been committed by GOPer bankster puppets except for Haiti and former Yugoslavia. It will be clear in the history books that the U.S. militarism of the past several decades, from whatever source derived, is what destroyed it. There's literally no "foundation" on which to stand anymore. The Pentagon and related MIC entities were the metastasizing cancer that destroyed the economic body of this country. There's no way back from terminal cancer.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I don't vote at all. I finally realized the futility of it all. I don't even know why I still read and post here. It's just a habit. Obama has been in there about 90 days. I know it seems longer to you. So far he has not started any new wars, just followed up on the old ones. And, in fairness to him, he is doing more or less what he said he would do in the campaign. The Pentagon and its many tentacles inside and outside the federal government will MURDER any President who really tries to stop the imperial state. But what's going to surprise them is the rapidity at which it collapses when the financing dries up. Then they and their militarized law enforcement arms all across the country will go door-to-door looting us of whatever we have left, I suppose.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
And the sad thing for you is that your D's are no better than those R's you despise so much. You still haven't snapped to the fact that Obama is just as much owned as Bush is. Maybe it will dawn on you one of these days. I'm not a democrat. In fact I actually voted Republican in 2008 for Senate and House because I wanted balance since I knew Obama would win. I didn't vote for President because none of the candidates (third parties included) were worth pushing a button for.
But he will just as soon as those who pull his strings tell him to. Obama is worthless, just as much as the Bush's and Clinton's.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Well, you do sound an awful lot like someone who hates the R's with a blinding passion and haven't figured out that they are just about all on the same team. And part of the time it seems you are pretty defensive about Obama. If it weren't for just a very few exceptions you could count all the decent folks in national politics on the fingers of a duck.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Well, you do sound an awful lot like someone who hates the R's with a blinding passion and haven't figured out that they are just about all on the same team I do hate the R's. Mostly because I used to think they were better. I've never expected democrats to do anything. The democrats are pretty open about their love for a moderate welfare state. In fact when they govern they are more moderate than their rhetoric. The republicans on the other hand claim liberty and patriotism as their goal, but actively work against those goals the minute they get any power. Also the anti-intellectualism from the right is disgusting. Most conservatives idealize stupidity (see the Bush and Palin phenomenon). Conservatives aren't just wrong, they don't want to be right.
And their backdoor funding of abortion while claiming they were against it is a prime example.
Whatever. One of these days you will figure out that there isn't a dime's worth of difference. George Wallace had that figured out a long time ago and so did a lot of the rest of us.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I'm still chewing on this one but several elements stand out. First the so-called leaders of the opposition are all soldiers in the true opposition's, the Bankster Cartel, army of quislings. Since we know that the media, and most politicians, are under firm control we can first, as a working hypothesis, assume that the entire "Tea Party" scam has a hidden motive. Lets look at the players: Glenn Dreck: Trained in Israel as a disinformation broadcaster and then promoted to national prominence. Dick, I'm not Guilty, Armey: Again, another "made man" Sean Vannity: A member of "The Order of the Golden Kool-Aid Cup". Unabashed defender of torture and State Terrorism. Neil, wannabe, Cavuto: Working his way to prominence as a pasty faced pallid porcine mouthpiece for the Plutocracy. (He reminds me most of Peter Lorre.) And then the author of this effervescent delight of disinformation a Hatchet Man for the Annenberg Disinformation and Social Control Project which spawned Oh'Bummer. Since an attack from the left is guaranteed to not have any influence on people inclined to join in the "Tea Party" there has to be another objective to the piece. Certainly no consideration should be given to any thought than that this piece was anything other than intentionally planted. So, it has a PsyOp/PR purpose behind it. Of course the use of the references to Black Helicopters (which do exist but you are not allowed to say that or the mind controlled will withdraw in horror from the apostate), tin foil hats, etc., is intended to play to the prejudices and conditioning of the mind controlled. The other point would seem to be to associate further the planted concept that opposition to the Banker Take-over is something only done by RIGHT WING wackos and anyone on the left is associating with the enemy in supporting these "Tea Parties". Thus we create a left wing opposition to resistance to the corruption and massive theft represented by Obama and his Banker Masters. So, the piece is definitely working on the psychology of mass perception. This may be a piece in a larger operation aimed at defanging those who are beginning to wake up and resist. By controlling the opposition, creating a false left/right perception your divert and blunt opposition. "If you oppose the Obama led thefts "you're just a filthy right winger who wants our Noble First Black pResident to fail." This then helps to drive a wedge between people to continue the false paradigm that there is a true left and right that are not controlled opposition to each other. A psychological false choice. The one thing the Plutocracy of Banksters fears most is an uncontrolled mass awakening across, and bridging, the political spectrum. Their control, at this point, rests upon psychological manipulation and control. Their Psychiatrists are working overtime to further develop programs - witness the introduction of another element of the cradle to grave system being built - the bill to have ALL new Mothers receive a Psych evaluation. Their PsyOp programs are aimed at controlling and gelding the resistance to their take over and to create a society of compliant slaves who enforce the control regime upon each other. So, with growing restiveness and opposition they put forth a false opposition to lead and channel the discontent. You can see the proof of mass perception management by observing how people who get virtually all of their news programming from the major media react - they have a set of reactions and attitudes which prevents them from looking, thinking, and observing the reality around them. Their responses are what they have been told is the case and that any other thought is simply a (shudddddder, flinnnnnnnnch) conspiracy theory. Never mind that history is filled with conspiracies and that elite rule is always run in the back room and that is, by definition, a conspiracy. Here is one of the more interesting snippets of the piece which reveals its purpose as a control piece: Notice the tactics: First, you are "sophisticated" if you know the bail-outs are necessary. (No, you're mind controlled schmuck if you think the "bail-outs" are anything other than a massive stick-up.) No evidence or reasoning is provided to support this but the reader is complimented for believing in the approved thought and the concept is sold by an appeal to vannity and impressed by authority. Too many people it would appear, are becoming aware, that the "bail out" is more properly described as theft and the looting of the American Treasury and the subjugation of its people to decades of crushing debt to support corrupt Banking Plutocrats who have engineered this "collapse". You need to lie down and spread'em because it is an unpleasant necessity. Again another word included to mold perception which can be included as a KEY word: Says who? Certainly nothing is presented to make that case - it is just presented as a PsyOp line to reinforce by assumption and authority everybody knows it's necessary. We do? We know it is necessary to pay off and support corrupt banks that behaved irresponsibly? Now we need to reward them for their corruption because it is "necessary"? And the other point of this key paragraph is to disparage tax cuts as "lollipop tax cuts" because we all know that the way to prosperity is to raise taxes and give all the money to the corrupt banksters. This paragraph, I think, gives us the whole key point of the manipulation intended by this "piece" - to keep the sheeple on the reservation and not question what your "betters" are doing with your money. Just shut up and give us all your money - slaves. One last postscript: The key in understanding what is going on in a Psych piece like this is to identify the concept that is being sold - the main manipulation and point of the piece. Often it will occur in the first or second paragraph but just as often, as in this piece, it will have a "set-up" to prepare the reader to unthinkingly accept the point that is being implanted.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Excellent analysis. Check out the big brain on OI! And, this video is pretty solid evidence of the intent to manipulate the masses. Check out their reactions to the babe:
Thanks.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
I can see his point - although I'm trying not to.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Exactly. And another thing--in reply to any who would whine about others wanting the "first black president to fail," I say that I want him to fail, not because he is black but because he is a freakin' communist! I would want him to fail if he was as white as snow.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The issue of color and race is another diversion and PsyOp. The race card is played as a disinformation tactic to avoid discussing the specifics - the actual issues. It is a way to brand opponents as I care not one whit what race he is, if he were a Frederick Douglas (which he most definitely is NOT), I would admire him as great leader, but that is not the case. He is a teleprompter trained droid to deliver the PsyOp control messages while the country is looted and its people enslaved. He is the exact opposite of a Frederick Douglas who was a great orator and desired freedom and prosperity for all.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Yes, of course. It is easier for them to brand you a racist than to actually have to think about something. To such people thinking is painful and they don't want to engage in it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Do you have a blog? Though I occasionally disagree, you always have a well thought out, reasoned analysis.
Thanks. No, I don't have a blog. I have thought of it but my schedule is sometimes erratic so I haven't wanted to take on maintaining one.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI'm sure a bunch of ya'll will vote for whoever Bush III is in 2016. Because "we can't have another Obama."
#28. To: James Deffenbach (#26)
Thank you my friend.
#29. To: James Deffenbach (#23)
I applaud any protest against the government and don't give a rat's @$$ who is protesting
#30. To: mirage (#25)
Sounds like today.
#31. To: James Deffenbach (#24)
#32. To: Rhino369, James Deffenbach (#29)
They are stealing real anger and using it to elect republicans. You shouldn't applaud that.
#33. To: Rhino369, James Deffenbach (#31)
We both know it.
#34. To: Rhino369, christine (#29)
They are stealing real anger and using it to elect republicans.
There's good news and bad news in this phenomenon for establishment politicians. The good news for Republicans is that, while the Republican Party flounders in its response to the Obama presidency and its programs, millions of Americans are getting organized on their own. The bad news is that those Americans, despite their opposition to President Obama's policies, aren't especially friendly to the GOP. When Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele asked to speak at the Chicago tea party, his request was politely refused by the organizers: "With regards to stage time, we respectfully must inform Chairman Steele that RNC officials are welcome to participate in the rally itself, but we prefer to limit stage time to those who are not elected officials, both in Government as well as political parties. This is an opportunity for Americans to speak, and elected officials to listen, not the other way around."
Go off half cocked and "ignunt" much?
Lord Acton
#35. To: Refinersfire, Rhino369 (#33)
You just don't get it do you.. right here on this thread, you have two posters that will do no such thing, yet you continue to post your thoughts, that those like James and I (and many others), will.. (insert head slapping smiley here)
Lord Acton
#36. To: Rhino369 (#31)
Almost everyone at these rallys will vote republican next election no matter who the republican is. We both know it.
#37. To: Refinersfire (#33)
#38. To: Rhino369 (#37)
#39. To: Rhino369 (#37)
You don't possibly think the 4um is representive of the tea bag movement do you? The number of tea baggers who watch Glen Beck, and Rush dwarf the people like you.
Lord Acton
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
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I'm going and I haven't voted R since '88.
#41. To: James Deffenbach (#21)
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
#43. To: Sam Houston (#41)
#44. To: Sam Houston (#41)
The recent history of this country records that for most of the past 28 years, the "R"s have been in control of at least two of the three branches of the federal government and have been responsible therefore for a series of failed imperial wars and the massive looting of the Treasury which has ensued therefrom.
Lord Acton
#45. To: all (#43)
#46. To: christine (#43)
members of both parties do the bidding of their banker masters.
Lord Acton
#47. To: Rhino369 (#42)
#48. To: Rhino369 (#45)
Lord Acton
#49. To: christine (#43)
#50. To: James Deffenbach (#44)
#51. To: James Deffenbach (#48)
#52. To: Sam Houston (#50)
So far he has not started any new wars
Lord Acton
#53. To: Rhino369 (#51)
Lord Acton
#54. To: James Deffenbach (#53)
#55. To: Rhino369 (#54)
The republicans on the other hand claim liberty and patriotism as their goal, but actively work against those goals the minute they get any power.
#56. To: Rhino369 (#54)
Lord Acton
#57. To: Refinersfire, christine, Jethro Tull, Esso, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, TwentyTwelve, bluegrass, HOUNDDAWG, CadetD, Wudidiz, James Deffenbach, Sam Houston, All (#0)
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Nobody I know is very pleased with the billions ladled out to teetering banks and corporations. Yet a clear majority of Americans are sophisticated enough to know that these bailouts are a necessary evil and are intended -- unlike the lollipop Bush tax cuts -- not for personal profit but rather as a radical, emergency measure to help Americans keep their jobs, their homes and their retirement.
"The bail-out is necessary".
#58. To: Original_Intent (#57)
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#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)
#60. To: Original_Intent, noone222 (#59)
Anderson Cooper says it's hard to talk while tea bagging.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#61. To: Rotara (#60)
#62. To: Original_Intent (#57)
(No, you're mind controlled schmuck if you think the "bail-outs" are anything other than a massive stick-up.)
Lord Acton
#63. To: James Deffenbach (#62)
And another thing--in reply to any who would whine about others wanting the "first black president to fail," I say that I want him to fail, not because he is black but because he is a freakin' communist! I would want him to fail if he was as white as snow.
anti-semites, oops wrong PsyOp, as racists and thus shut down debate and examination.
#64. To: Original_Intent (#63)
The issue of color and race is another diversion and PsyOp. The race card is played as a disinformation tactic to avoid discussing the specifics - the actual issues. It is a way to brand opponents as anti-semites, oops wrong PsyOp, as racists and thus shut down debate and examination.
Lord Acton
#65. To: Original_Intent (#57)
#66. To: mininggold (#65)
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