Title: Anderson Cooper 360 - It's hard to talk when you're tea-bagging (CS'er Alert) Source:
'tube URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6TecmKi_Hg Published:Apr 15, 2009 Author:ErlangerTruth Post Date:2009-04-16 12:03:25 by Rotara Keywords:None Views:3151 Comments:115
I am anything but quiet. As far as 4UM goes it too often is a venue encouraging rhetorical lynching of anyone not weighing in with the chorus people like you approve of. The anti-free speech, anti-Constitutional lynch mobbing people like you love.
This is on you and no sweat off my balls.
This might be an important propaganda tool to you as you work to prevent free speech, but your intolerance, mean spirited desire to censor and eliminate all those who don't think exactly like you is your flaw, idiocy and problem, not mine.
You and other anti-free speech goonbahs are the quient ones as you effectively dive away free speech and marginalize the forum. I have this in a very accurate perspective and while I feel sad at what you do to this joint, it does not frustrate nor silence me in the least. What time and thought I do not contribute here still exists, I just don't waste as much time here in this no free speech forum.
But you don't get my point. I don't harass and browbeat people who support racism, homophobia and other nasty opinion owners on a personal level, yet I am always the recipient of nasty, intolerant of my speech rights personal attacks that have been based on slander and threats.
Some in here want the forum to be an echo chamber, and they do not depend on you to make it so, they use mob rule to quiet voices they disagree with.
That is what I am saying, and if you allow it to happen then that raises questions on whether you have the courage to be the sort of referee a free speech form needs to keep the information flow going, allowing all to exercise their free speech rights.
Threatening me, calling me gay, short, a nigger lover, or whatever is immature and does nothing to promote free speech. It just shows a love of the lynch mob over the engagement of lively discussion and debate on issues and current events.
This is no flame, just an honest observation. I see lots of people saying they like free speech in here who immediately turn around and attack anyone coming in here to exercise this right on a base and mean spirited personal level with the aim of having only the speech and opinions in here that they approve of.
I don't feel they are successful, thus I would say there are those who cannot stand dialogging and exchanging ideas and engaging in debate and lively discussion.
Look, all I ask of say a Rotara is to listen and expect me to listen to him. And then if the mood strikes to agree or disagree in a respectful, non- threatening way. I never asked for threats and a full blown drive to attempt to purge me for not agreeing with him. So the onus is on him for this immature and ill conceived behavior, not me.
All that type wants to do is suppress what they don't agree with without caring for a damn thing.
We did not get the First Amendment written the way it is because the Founding Fathers wanted free speech as long as they agreed with it.
The point I make is simple; to respect others enough to not always either try to kick them in the balls rhetorically and try to dehumanize and belittle.
It's your forum Christine, and you certainly can allow the rule of clique to be the main way for people to do things in forum, but it will never allow this place to truly be a place that cherishes and honors free speech.
This is my take on things, and you are free to disagree with me or whatever. I trust and respect you to have the best intentions at heart, but I reserve the right to not always agree you are exactly correct in the perceptions on how and where free speech is damaged and stunted by the sort of behavior I speak of.
It is a shame I even have to waste time here on this topic, but it is an important point of order, so c'est la vie. Feel free to tell me how and where you do not agree with my take on this.
i think your beef is with a few individuals, not the forum as a whole. i do disagree with you on your mob rule assertion, although it is true that anyone who supports either one of the establishment parties/politicians gets grief from most of us here, there's not a group conspiracy to quiet you or anyone else. further, you certainly are not alone in being the recipient of name calling, mocking, derision, etc. that is part and parcel of "lively discussion" in every forum unless it's heavily censored and moderated.
i also disagree with your interpretation of free speech on this board. free speech means that people can express their love or hatred or anger for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing. you and everyone else have the right to challenge, debate, or criticize those opinions.
I have seen Mr. Ferret's posting far more continuous on this forum about thoughts and ideas than his victimizing accusers, whom instantly describe him as the devil based upon agreeing to some sophomoric agenda. The poor man obviously feels helpless while not only sharks attack him eating at his green treed flesh but also some of the jolly happy, slap-'em-on-the-back-bullshitters.
Mr. Ferret probably should receive an accolade rather than condemnation for sticking up for his own ideals despite the political party affiliation.