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Title: Anderson Cooper 360 - It's hard to talk when you're tea-bagging (CS'er Alert)
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6TecmKi_Hg
Published: Apr 15, 2009
Author: ErlangerTruth
Post Date: 2009-04-16 12:03:25 by Rotara
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#14. To: christine (#11)
But you don't get my point. I don't harass and browbeat people who support racism, homophobia and other nasty opinion owners on a personal level, yet I am always the recipient of nasty, intolerant of my speech rights personal attacks that have been based on slander and threats. Some in here want the forum to be an echo chamber, and they do not depend on you to make it so, they use mob rule to quiet voices they disagree with. That is what I am saying, and if you allow it to happen then that raises questions on whether you have the courage to be the sort of referee a free speech form needs to keep the information flow going, allowing all to exercise their free speech rights. Threatening me, calling me gay, short, a nigger lover, or whatever is immature and does nothing to promote free speech. It just shows a love of the lynch mob over the engagement of lively discussion and debate on issues and current events. This is no flame, just an honest observation. I see lots of people saying they like free speech in here who immediately turn around and attack anyone coming in here to exercise this right on a base and mean spirited personal level with the aim of having only the speech and opinions in here that they approve of. Just something for you to think about.
What do the terms "racism" and "homophobia" mean to you? You use them in a derogatory manner.
I believe people are people, that no one race or ethnic group is better human beings then any other. The differences that exist between people of different varieties of people are too minor and inconsequential to be of use to divide people and to create conflict and hatred over. As far as sexual preference goes, nobody can control what 'fires their rocket.' Sexual preference is a minor attribute of a person they have no control over and does not affect how well adjusted, functional or valuable to society or themselves and others. I don't care wether someone is gay, lesbian or bi-sexual. Their lives and how they live them are as valid and real as heterosexuality. I don't support or like the mindless hatred represented by these sort of mindsets and represent profoundly strong and well tempered beliefs and views that are central notions to my being.
You're defining terms by example using yourself. You are "not" racist. You are "not" a homophobe. These are derogatory terms for you, because you are not like those things, you say. I still don't know what you mean.
If these fascist world socialist cs'ers had their way we'd already be in camps !
Clueless little nut sucker.
I just ignore them, pretty easy to do. And somethings just wrong with Rotera. But she/he is a good representation of the right wing Shout You Down form of dishonest discussion. It does not bring much to the forum's table, AFAIC.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" First off, it is common courtesy to ping someone to a post when you speak of him/her. At least it should be. Second, I don't think Rotara is a right winger at all, but more like me, a rabid libertarian. I have no tolerance for people who in any way shape or form want to screw with my liberty and who support scum bag politicians who will do same. I'll shout them down too, and if they want to cry about it, screw them. What they are doing to me is far worse. They deserve far more than being called a name or two.
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
#16. To: Deasy (#15)
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
#18. To: bluegrass (#13)
If your buddies at the ADL had their way, this forum wouldn't exist.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#19. To: ferret mike, NUT SUCKER (#14)
You really don't have any idea do you ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#16)
#21. To: tom007, Rotara (#20)
And somethings just wrong with Rotera. But she/he is a good representation of the right wing Shout You Down form of dishonest discussion.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
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#22. To: Critter (#21)
You spoke very well.
Thank You
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#23. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
ok. name names. who are those you feel use "mob rule" to quiet you?
they use mob rule to quiet voices they disagree with.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
#24. To: Rotara (#0)
I think that was a cute pun by Anderson. Thanx!
#25. To: Littlelisa (#24)
Welcome to 4, LL. Nice to have you aboard.
#26. To: Littlelisa (#24)
You thought it was funny for CNN anchor anderson cooper to mention scrotum-in-mouth-stuffing ? Cute ?? In reference to patriots protesting their illegal and out of control feral beast 'government' ???
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#27. To: Rotara (#26)
Man, You're an anal type. Geesh!
#28. To: Littlelisa (#27)
What does that make you ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#29. To: lodwick (#25)
Nice to have you aboard. Seconded, LL.
Welcome to 4, LL.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#30. To: Rotara (#28)
Well, I can be anal at times too. So don't feel bad. It's just the way it is. To a more perfect tomorrow, Cheers!
#31. To: Critter (#21)
Critter - Common Courtesy is something initiated and reciprocated, the subject requires none of it.
First off, it is common courtesy to ping someone to a post when you speak of him/her.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
#32. To: tom007 (#31)
No fears Tom. If the day were to come when I slid down to the level of you and your world socialist neanderphucks - I'd just take us ALL out together. Peace
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#33. To: Littlelisa (#30)
We don't see things similarly at all. Good day
Well, I can be anal at times too. So don't feel bad. It's just the way it is. To a more perfect tomorrow, Cheers!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#34. To: Littlelisa (#30)
I'll drink to that. Cheers!
To a more perfect tomorrow, Cheers!
#35. To: Rotara (#33)
I guess we don't see things the same. It's Night here, so Good Night to you!
#36. To: lodwick (#34)
Hear Hear!
#37. To: Rotara (#32)
Do you have some sort of diagram to document any of this?
If the day were to come when I slid down to the level of you and your world socialist neanderphucks - I'd just take us ALL out together.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#38. To: Dakmar (#37)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: Dakmar (#37)
Found that post rather amusing, as that he added PEACE at the end. :rolleyes:
If the day were to come when I slid down to the level of you and your world socialist neanderphucks - I'd just take us ALL out together.
#40. To: All (#38)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#41. To: Littlelisa (#39)
You can do better ! ;-)
Oh come on you recycled shill.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#42. To: Rotara, christine (#41)
I'm not recycled. Christine, what's my sign up date?
#43. To: Littlelisa (#42)
For this handle ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#44. To: Rotara (#43)
Lisa's been here since 4/15/05.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
#45. To: christine (#44)
How many sign ups does Lisa have ?
Lisa's been here since 4/15/05.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#46. To: christine (#44)
Thank you Christine. I have had but only one name here. Littlelisa. I don't post much, but read the Marketwrapup faithfully.
#47. To: Littlelisa (#46)
Were you excited to support Barrack Hussein Obama or did you hold your nose and pull the lever for him begrudgingly ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#48. To: Rotara (#45)
just this one.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
#49. To: christine (#23)
I don't feel they are successful, thus I would say there are those who cannot stand dialogging and exchanging ideas and engaging in debate and lively discussion. Look, all I ask of say a Rotara is to listen and expect me to listen to him. And then if the mood strikes to agree or disagree in a respectful, non- threatening way. I never asked for threats and a full blown drive to attempt to purge me for not agreeing with him. So the onus is on him for this immature and ill conceived behavior, not me. All that type wants to do is suppress what they don't agree with without caring for a damn thing. We did not get the First Amendment written the way it is because the Founding Fathers wanted free speech as long as they agreed with it. The point I make is simple; to respect others enough to not always either try to kick them in the balls rhetorically and try to dehumanize and belittle. It's your forum Christine, and you certainly can allow the rule of clique to be the main way for people to do things in forum, but it will never allow this place to truly be a place that cherishes and honors free speech. This is my take on things, and you are free to disagree with me or whatever. I trust and respect you to have the best intentions at heart, but I reserve the right to not always agree you are exactly correct in the perceptions on how and where free speech is damaged and stunted by the sort of behavior I speak of. It is a shame I even have to waste time here on this topic, but it is an important point of order, so c'est la vie. Feel free to tell me how and where you do not agree with my take on this.
#50. To: ferret mike (#49)
You shill for the enemy. And you whine a lot too.
It's a shame alright.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#51. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#9) (Edited)
This is on you and no sweat off my balls. This might be an important propaganda tool to you as you work to prevent free speech, but your intolerance, mean spirited desire to censor and eliminate all those who don't think exactly like you is your flaw, idiocy and problem, not mine. You and other anti-free speech goonbahs are the quient ones as you effectively dive away free speech and marginalize the forum. I have this in a very accurate perspective and while I feel sad at what you do to this joint, it does not frustrate nor silence me in the least. What time and thought I do not contribute here still exists, I just don't waste as much time here in this no free speech forum. Have I ever violated your attempt to speak or attempted to prevent you from speaking? On several occasions I have engaged you in substantive debate and each and every time you found yourself in a position where you would be forced to admit to the truth of our current situation rather than engage in intellectual honesty you vacated the thread making yourself scarce. A forum such as this is not the place for someone choosing to fit themselves with blinders, and I think the problem you are faced with is that you do not wish to remove the blinders. It is you who wishes an echo chamber and amen corner. I quite frankly don't give a shit whether someone disagrees with me or calls me names. I learned long ago that such are simply to be pointed out for what they are and then continue to make my point. And despite invitations by you, via your own tasteless personal attacks, I have refrained from engaging in "Flame Wars". (Which by the way I am very good at. I have lots of experience.) Mikey? Would you like some cheese?
I am anything but quiet. As far as 4UM goes it too often is a venue encouraging rhetorical lynching of anyone not weighing in with the chorus people like you approve of. The anti-free speech, anti-Constitutional lynch mobbing people like you love.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#52. To: Original_Intent (#51)
Which is why I rattle that POS's cage every chance I get. He's earned everything and more.
On several occasions I have engaged you in substantive debate and each and every time you found yourself in a position where you would be forced to admit to the truth of current situation. Rather than engage in intellectual honesty you vacated the thread and instead of responding made yourself scarce.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#53. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#49)
Oh, spare me. There have been several occasions where you engaged in unprovoked ad hominems against me when you were on the losing end of a debate.
The point I make is simple; to respect others enough to not always either try to kick them in the balls rhetorically and try to dehumanize and belittle.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
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