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Title: GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news ... g-tea-partiers-2009-04-16.html
Published: Apr 16, 2009
Author: Reid Wilson
Post Date: 2009-04-16 23:25:43 by Rotara
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GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers

Posted: 04/16/09 02:27 PM [ET]

Republicans are contemplating how to involve thousands of anti-tax protesters in rebuilding their fractured party a day after nationwide tax-day tea parties drew widespread attention.

"We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it."

Boehner was one of many Republican politicians and prominent activists who attended a tea party on Wednesday. In Boehner's case, he joined Chief Deputy Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) for a rally in McCarthy's district in Bakersfield.

"This party has always been based on movements of individuals," McCarthy said. "People are frustrated, and the one thing you see with the tea parties is that they're not being organized by elected officials."

Though President Obama maintains sky-high approval ratings, several Republicans suggested the anger they witnessed may be the beginnings of a re-energized base capable of propelling their party back into contention.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, the Republican who has clashed more with the administration than just about any other public official, said he foresees a "genuine voter backlash, and there's probably a lot more to come with that."

Most party leaders and strategists say it is not a matter of whether to involve the so-called tea-partiers, but how best to harness the new anger for political gain. Some go so far as to suggest the protests are signs that the GOP has finally found the vehicle it needs to get back to the majority.

"This is very cathartic for the conservative movement," said veteran party strategist Craig Shirley, who has penned a biography of former President Reagan. "It means the movement is becoming re-Reaganized. It's becoming a populist movement again."

"The Republican base was shrinking and depressed after the past two elections. Having activists organized on the ground and online is something the party should want," added Doug Heye, a GOP strategist. "The challenge now is how to positively channel that energy into electoral gains in the off-year and midterm elections."

"Barack Obama created a populist movement right in front of our eyes," said Katon Dawson, chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. "Now that populist movement he created has thrown a question mark up."

Said Dawson of the protesters he saw Wednesday: "It is part of the Republican movement. You see some libertarian faces there, and the Republican Party has got to practice the politics of addition, not subtraction."

Still, the question of where the movement goes from here remains up in the air, with few evincing any urge to do anything to stand in protesters' way and with all insisting the events were organized independent of any national coordinating effort.

"We want to help in any way we can, but this is not us doing it," McCarthy said.

But consensus on how to envelop the anti-tax outrage has yet to emerge, and few seem confident of where the movement goes from here. On Thursday, FreedomWorks, the Washington think tank headed by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas), announced a second round of tea parties slated for Washington in early September, but until then the next step remains unclear.

"We'll see," Boehner said when asked the direction in which the tea parties are headed. "But clearly they're responding to a lot of what we've had to say in Washington over the past couple of months."

Though some in the GOP see protesters as distracting from a uniform message for a party struggling to define itself as something other than naysayers, others suggest the intensity of the tea party protests will rob party leaders in Washington of the option of ignoring them.

"The flow of power has shifted. It's moving downward, not upward," Shirley said. "These people are in charge, not [new Republican National Committee Chairman] Michael Steele."

Asked whether Republicans should embrace the protesters, Shirley said simply: "I don't think they have any choice."

"Will they find a place? I think so, but a lot of it will depend on us and our candidates. We're going to have to sell ourselves to them," said Saul Anuzis, the former Michigan Republican Party chairman who attended a tea party in Lansing.

"We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad," Anuzis said. "It's by no means a slam-dunk."


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#16. To: christine (#14)

GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers

Standing in the shadows of love, getting ready for the heartaches to come.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-04-17   0:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#0)

"We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday.

Some go so far as to suggest the protests are signs that the GOP has finally found the vehicle it needs to get back to the majority.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-17   0:57:12 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#14)

FOAD ;)

I love you dear. ;-)

You might notice that I am now flying the Goliad Flag (Irish Brown then Texas Blood Red) in honor of the men in my family that have passed before me.

"DON'T TREAD ON ME" (you mother fucker) and "I'D RATHER CUT OFF MY RIGHT ARM THAN LIVE IN TYRANNY" (you mother fucker) were two things I learned at a very early age.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   0:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: X-15 (#17)

LOL

doooooooooooood


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: MUDDOG (#15)

Meet the new Kool-Aid, same as the old Kool-Aid.

Even Ron Paul is a Repubican. ;-) ehehe


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#13)

and thanks for noticing my efforts

Mmmm sweetie, I always notice your efforts!


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   1:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#21)

Mmmm sweetie, I always notice your efforts!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:04:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: MUDDOG (#16)

go away
won't you just go away
go away
don't you come back one day
take your stuff
take all of your precious things
leave right now
who knows what tomorrow brings
stay away
won't you please stay away
live your life
but live it real far away

do you know this one? ;)

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-04-17   1:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#23)

go away won't you just go away

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-17   1:10:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Rotara (#19)

If the GOP thinks they can make hay out of the Tea Parties then they've finally jumped the shark and the GOP is DEAD.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-17   1:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: X-15 (#25)

the GOP is DEAD

Yes. Yes it is. Because the Demorat-Repubican illusion is over.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: X-15 (#25)

If the GOP thinks they can make hay out of the Tea Parties then they've finally jumped the shark and the GOP is DEAD.

One party down and one to go. After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save.

Some folks continue on with the effort, but it's wearing them down. We need a populus party, not a corporate cronie party, if we are ever going to get some representation.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-17   1:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#23)

I didn't know it until I looked it up on google just now.

These songs take a lyric here and a lyric there from older songs and cook it together, like "It Ain't Me Babe" (Go away from my window), "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" (Take what you need you think will last), and "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring."


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2009-04-17   1:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TwentyTwelve, christine (#24)

OOooo a new smilie! Trade?

I'll even throw in a bonus smilie!


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   1:19:13 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rotara (#22)


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   1:21:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: abraxas, X-15 (#27)

After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save.

Yep, take the red pill, get out of the matrix and move on.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   1:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#0)

"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-17   1:25:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#27)

After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save.

Let me guess, you ran into the old lady who's been a Republican for 49 years, wears a goofy hat with flowers in it, and she's running your county's Republican party come hell or high water and nobody better question her eminence??

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-17   1:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend, Rotara (#30)

Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-17   1:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas, ALL (#27)

I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !

Can I get an Amen ? ! ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: farmfriend (#30)

Watch out

I'm a little horny ornery tonight. ~(8^|


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#31)

Yep, take the red pill, get out of the matrix and move on.

I'm shouting it from the rooftops because we are LITERALLY suspended over thin air as a country and people right now.

Khrushchev was onto something me thinks. ugh


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#32)

I wonder what Dr. Paul thinks. /s


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: X-15, farmfriend (#34)

Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:38:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rotara (#39)

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-17   1:40:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rotara (#35)

I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !

Except the one after the NWO is brought to its knees !

Can I get an Amen ? ! ?

Amen !

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-04-17   1:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: X-15 (#33)

Let me guess, you ran into the old lady who's been a Republican for 49 years, wears a goofy hat with flowers in it, and she's running your county's Republican party come hell or high water and nobody better question her eminence??

Nope, Nevada state Republican convention. We had already swept through the party platform that was constitutionally sound and a return to the Ron Paul vision. We had pushed through the necessary voting adjustments, following all the tedious Roberts Rule of Order.

We were the majority. Ron Paul was on his way to be the nominee for Nevada.

Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-17   1:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: X-15 (#40)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:42:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: noone222 (#41)

I love you my Brother !

Amen


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: abraxas (#42)

Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.

I know what you are saying is truth and afaic those mother f**kers should ALL be hung until DEAD. I'm talkin' "shit their pants - dead".


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Rotara (#35)

I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !

Can I get an Amen ? ! ?

I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud. In a land that is supposedly free we should have at least twenty parties that can get on the ballot, instead of just two offering the same crooks and liars who share the same interests.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-17   1:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: abraxas (#46)

I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud.

How many parties is too many, IYO ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   1:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rotara (#36)

I'm a little horny ornery tonight. ~(8^|

That makes two of us.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   1:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: X-15, rotara (#34)

Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   2:00:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: farmfriend (#48)

That makes two of us.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   2:02:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: farmfriend (#49)

xoxoxo


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   2:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Rotara (#47)

How many parties is too many, IYO ?

I think 20 viable parties would be great. Hell we have socialists and communists already, why not put 'em on the ballot and put some sunshine on their ideology rather than pretending to be otherwise? We'd spend a hell of a lot less money if we had 20 parties, than just two corporate cronie parties.

The entire election process is a sham where hidden interests pay the way and the duped public continues to believe they only have two options that are viable. I say BS to that. The only thing stopping us from tearing the whole process apart is that we are conditioned constantly to believe it is the only way. This sham can't be fixed from within, the fixing has to come from the people.

I'm happy to see the GOP flopping around like a fish out of water. Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.

abraxas  posted on  2009-04-17   2:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rotara (#50)


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   2:03:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: abraxas (#52)

I hear you loud and clear

But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-04-17   2:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: abraxas, Rotara (#52)

Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.

We had a gal just join JBS who was a Hillary supporter. Part of some Hillary club. Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   2:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rotara, abraxas (#54)

But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?

Out here in CA part of the budget deal was to make an open primary. Sound good? Only the top two vote getters regardless of party will be on the general ballot. Oh yeah, that's really going to make it fair.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-04-17   2:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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