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Title: GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
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URL Source: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news ... g-tea-partiers-2009-04-16.html
Published: Apr 16, 2009
Author: Reid Wilson
Post Date: 2009-04-16 23:25:43 by Rotara
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GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers Republicans are contemplating how to involve thousands of anti-tax protesters in rebuilding their fractured party a day after nationwide tax-day tea parties drew widespread attention. "We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it." "This party has always been based on movements of individuals," McCarthy said. "People are frustrated, and the one thing you see with the tea parties is that they're not being organized by elected officials." Though President Obama maintains sky-high approval ratings, several Republicans suggested the anger they witnessed may be the beginnings of a re-energized base capable of propelling their party back into contention. South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, the Republican who has clashed more with the administration than just about any other public official, said he foresees a "genuine voter backlash, and there's probably a lot more to come with that." Most party leaders and strategists say it is not a matter of whether to involve the so-called tea-partiers, but how best to harness the new anger for political gain. Some go so far as to suggest the protests are signs that the GOP has finally found the vehicle it needs to get back to the majority. "This is very cathartic for the conservative movement," said veteran party strategist Craig Shirley, who has penned a biography of former President Reagan. "It means the movement is becoming re-Reaganized. It's becoming a populist movement again." "The Republican base was shrinking and depressed after the past two elections. Having activists organized on the ground and online is something the party should want," added Doug Heye, a GOP strategist. "The challenge now is how to positively channel that energy into electoral gains in the off-year and midterm elections." "Barack Obama created a populist movement right in front of our eyes," said Katon Dawson, chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. "Now that populist movement he created has thrown a question mark up." Said Dawson of the protesters he saw Wednesday: "It is part of the Republican movement. You see some libertarian faces there, and the Republican Party has got to practice the politics of addition, not subtraction." Still, the question of where the movement goes from here remains up in the air, with few evincing any urge to do anything to stand in protesters' way and with all insisting the events were organized independent of any national coordinating effort. "We want to help in any way we can, but this is not us doing it," McCarthy said. "We'll see," Boehner said when asked the direction in which the tea parties are headed. "But clearly they're responding to a lot of what we've had to say in Washington over the past couple of months." Though some in the GOP see protesters as distracting from a uniform message for a party struggling to define itself as something other than naysayers, others suggest the intensity of the tea party protests will rob party leaders in Washington of the option of ignoring them. "The flow of power has shifted. It's moving downward, not upward," Shirley said. "These people are in charge, not [new Republican National Committee Chairman] Michael Steele." Asked whether Republicans should embrace the protesters, Shirley said simply: "I don't think they have any choice." "Will they find a place? I think so, but a lot of it will depend on us and our candidates. We're going to have to sell ourselves to them," said Saul Anuzis, the former Michigan Republican Party chairman who attended a tea party in Lansing. "We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad," Anuzis said. "It's by no means a slam-dunk." Poster Comment: Posted: 04/16/09 02:27 PM [ET]
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#38. To: Original_Intent (#32)
I wonder what Dr. Paul thinks. /s
_________________________________________________________________________ Except the one after the NWO is brought to its knees ! Can I get an Amen ? ! ? Amen !
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces. De La Boétie
Nope, Nevada state Republican convention. We had already swept through the party platform that was constitutionally sound and a return to the Ron Paul vision. We had pushed through the necessary voting adjustments, following all the tedious Roberts Rule of Order. We were the majority. Ron Paul was on his way to be the nominee for Nevada. Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.
Amen
I know what you are saying is truth and afaic those mother f**kers should ALL be hung until DEAD. I'm talkin' "shit their pants - dead".
Can I get an Amen ? ! ? I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud. In a land that is supposedly free we should have at least twenty parties that can get on the ballot, instead of just two offering the same crooks and liars who share the same interests.
How many parties is too many, IYO ?
That makes two of us.
xoxoxo
I think 20 viable parties would be great. Hell we have socialists and communists already, why not put 'em on the ballot and put some sunshine on their ideology rather than pretending to be otherwise? We'd spend a hell of a lot less money if we had 20 parties, than just two corporate cronie parties. The entire election process is a sham where hidden interests pay the way and the duped public continues to believe they only have two options that are viable. I say BS to that. The only thing stopping us from tearing the whole process apart is that we are conditioned constantly to believe it is the only way. This sham can't be fixed from within, the fixing has to come from the people. I'm happy to see the GOP flopping around like a fish out of water. Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
We had a gal just join JBS who was a Hillary supporter. Part of some Hillary club. Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
Out here in CA part of the budget deal was to make an open primary. Sound good? Only the top two vote getters regardless of party will be on the general ballot. Oh yeah, that's really going to make it fair.
Hello !
The I believe that anyone that can pay to register should get a shot to earn my vote.
Hello
I really wonder how long it will take for those who voted for "change" to get disillusioned. I have no faith that it will happen. And then you still have to deal with the "lesser of two evils" Rep.
With millions of voters, we need some distinctions amongst candidates prior to duking it out. Without corporate cronies putting up the funding, those running for election would actually NEED the people to roll up their sleeves and contribute some funds. The people need to know that the person they are backing will represent THEM and their perspective, that's where parties actually help rather than hinder the process. Why should libertarians or constitutionalists be considered not viable? That's just insanity.
Yeah, I understand. Out here in CA they have rigged the system to make it difficult. You have to gather signatures and it is hard to know where the boundries are. The rules are different for third parties.
Thanks for bringing THAT up ! (bleeeeeech)
Open primary would be great if the funding wasn't coming from corporate interests for just two parties, while the rest are treated like red-headed step children. Without addressing that issue, it's more bs. Fair has to do with who is paying to put these crooks in office. The people vote based on paid for dubious campaign ads.
There are people out there who strongly believe that McCain would have been better.
Which is the point I believe. It would shut third party out.
Well it is pumpkin time for me. Have to be to work early! Well not toooo early. It's only a 6:00am start. Usually it's 5am. Sometimes earlier.
"We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it. Americans are sick and tired of seeing the rich taxed on their capital gains and business profits when there are millions of ordinary, minimum wage earners to carry the tax load for the country. And, why should the rich have to provide health and unemployment insurance for workers who are no longer of any use to their employers? And, why should rich American companies be hindered by immigration laws that force them to pay first world wages to spoiled Americans and to compete with foreign competition that can use slave labor to build their products? Americans are sick of it I tell you! This is a populist, grassroots uprising and if Obama tries to reverse course on Bush's tax cuts for the rich I'm afraid the country will explode!", Boehner said..... _________________________________ Although I have doubts about "Obama's sky-high approval ratings" (according to Ed Steele Obama's true ratings are lower than Bush's at this point in his first term) I do believe that the GOP is trying to manufacture and channel a tidal wave of anger to cover their "Protect BushCo's 'favor the rich' agenda at all costs" and they honestly believe that Americans are that fucking stupid and won't see the soft, carefully manicured hand writing the secret directives from The Golden Castle On the Hill. And, the puppeteers know very well that Obama is under orders to follow the same playbook as BushCo and he will completely ignore the voices of dissent and the whole world if necessary to follow the directives from the shadow govt. If the past teaches anything it's that this is a necessary exercise to keep us occupied in our playpens and to create the illusion of political involvement and relevance while preparing for the next swing back to the other "truth" where "Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia!". Although no one responded when I mentioned this previously, it so seriously pissed me off that I'll write it again: Back when Sen. Dick Lugar was toying with the idea of running for Emperor his exploratory platform was "abolish the IRS and the income tax". After he withdrew he returned to the senate and never breathed another word about this issue that was "so crucial to America's survival." And, when Bush was kissing every baby, every ass and every baby's ass he could while running for re-election Denny "Let me show you how to hold that bat you cute little feller-Have you ever seen a grown man naked?" Hastert said that if re-elected Bush and the GOP were going to abolish the IRS and the income tax! He was talking to a reporter in what appeared to be the outer lobby of the House and he would have never said such a thing if he wasn't instructed to plant another "all things for all people" seed to guarantee Bush's re-election. Of course I know that this issue is just campaign bait and they have no intention of abolishing the tool they use to silence their enemies the way corporations use SLAPP suits. This is evidenced by the fact that they never detail any IRS abuses of Americans or explain that income taxes are used to fund the federal reserve swindle not to build bridges, roads, the military, education, etc.,. If they were serious about de-funding the federal reserve some insider would actually introduce a bill ("Hoo wants to bell the cat?" "Mee? Kiss MY ASS, Hastert!") and they would have no trouble selling it to the people once the truth is allowed to fall upon the ears of the long suffering masses. But, none may criticize the royal families of banking and finance lest his or her plane falls from the sky or he/she ends up swinging from a rope under a bridge in the old Italian P2 tradition. There can be no doubt that millions of Americans fall for these GOP theater productions just as in 2000 when they "spontaneously" rioted to force the "abrupt cancellation of a hand recount" in FLA. One GOP loyalist-state level functionary at Liberty Forum even admitted that he was "called up and activated" and that he got on a plane for that very purpose! It was the first time in America's history that "angry, dispossessed American rioters" flew to the event first class or drove in gas guzzling Humvees secure in the knowledge that the FLA Highway Patrol wouldn't ticket them for speeding once they explained their "mission to the uniformed branch of the Friends Of Bush"! ("Hey, you guys performed a great service for America when you scared those darkies away from the polls. Don't worry, we'll take it from here! And, tell Katherine Harris that it would be an honor to bite the squirrel or a great American heroine!") "Yeah, Honey, take the kids out of school for a few days because after I'm done rioting we can take them to Sea World and Disney! Of course we can afford it! We'll take The Auto Train and I'll list it as a business deduction! For the next eight years we're gonna reap the profits! REAP REAP REAP!" Miami's rent-a-riot
I'm still amazed when people say they were unaware that the state of Florida and a couple Florida counties quietly settled out of court admitting they committed voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement in the 2000 election.
The news outlets delivered it in the same calm, non-news tone one would expect in a story about missing manhole covers. It should have set the nation on fire. I remember the report very well and my initial shock and then resignation to a state of quiet despair. And, since you've reminded me I have to say that it's more evidence (to me because I'm so absolutely discouraged-it's as if JFK was assassinated yesterday) that America is past the point of no return. Let's me and you gorge and purge, then drunkenly stumble to the next Roman orgy while the night is young, shall we?
This morning I thought of a better idea. GOP contemplates OBEYING tea-partiers. They'd win.
Eff'em
What finally woke her up?
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Yup, just about the entire bunch with only a few exceptions.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
Someone may have already asked this question but I have just read the article--if the question is redundant disregard it but isn't that Anuzis guy the one who wanted to exclude Ron Paul from the alleged "debates"?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#39. To: X-15, farmfriend (#34)
Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#40. To: Rotara (#39)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#41. To: Rotara (#35)
I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !
#42. To: X-15 (#33)
Let me guess, you ran into the old lady who's been a Republican for 49 years, wears a goofy hat with flowers in it, and she's running your county's Republican party come hell or high water and nobody better question her eminence??
#43. To: X-15 (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#44. To: noone222 (#41)
I love you my Brother !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#45. To: abraxas (#42)
Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#46. To: Rotara (#35)
I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !
#47. To: abraxas (#46)
I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#48. To: Rotara (#36)
I'm a little
horny ornery tonight. ~(8^|
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#49. To: X-15, rotara (#34)
Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#50. To: farmfriend (#48)
That makes two of us.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#51. To: farmfriend (#49)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#52. To: Rotara (#47)
How many parties is too many, IYO ?
#53. To: Rotara (#50)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#54. To: abraxas (#52)
I hear you loud and clear
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#55. To: abraxas, Rotara (#52)
Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#56. To: Rotara, abraxas (#54)
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#57. To: farmfriend (#53)
grrrrrrowllllll
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#58. To: farmfriend (#55)
Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
Demorat Communist Party USA was easy to spot until the Marxist Repubicans flared up.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#59. To: Rotara (#57)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#60. To: farmfriend (#56)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#61. To: farmfriend (#59)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#62. To: Rotara (#58)
The
Demorat Communist Party USA was easy to spot until the Marxist Repubicans flared up.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#63. To: Rotara (#61)
Hello
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#64. To: Rotara (#54)
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
#65. To: Rotara (#60)
I believe that anyone that can pay to register should get a shot to earn my vote.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#66. To: farmfriend (#62)
Lesser of two evils
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#67. To: farmfriend (#56)
Out here in CA part of the budget deal was to make an open primary. Sound good? Only the top two vote getters regardless of party will be on the general ballot. Oh yeah, that's really going to make it fair.
#68. To: Rotara (#66)
Thanks for bringing THAT up ! (bleeeeeech)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#69. To: abraxas (#67)
(Edited)
while the rest are treated like red-headed step children. Without addressing that issue, it's more bs.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#70. To: abraxas, rotara (#67)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#71. To: Rotara, TwentyTwelve, Artisan, James Deffenbach, rowdee, Diana, bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
(Edited)
#72. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)
#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#72)
I'm still amazed when people say they were unaware that the state of Florida and a couple Florida counties quietly settled out of court admitting they committed voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement in the 2000 election.
#74. To: Rotara (#0)
GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
#75. To: mirage (#74)
They are lying frauds. Traitors. I remember what they did to Ron Paul, the last great hope politically.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#76. To: farmfriend (#55)
We had a gal just join JBS who was a Hillary supporter. Part of some Hillary club. Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
#77. To: Rotara (#75)
They are lying frauds. Traitors. I remember what they did to Ron Paul, the last great hope politically. Eff'em
#78. To: Rotara (#0)
"Will they find a place? I think so, but a lot of it will depend on us and our candidates. We're going to have to sell ourselves to them," said Saul Anuzis, the former Michigan Republican Party chairman who attended a tea party in Lansing.
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