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Title: GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
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URL Source: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news ... g-tea-partiers-2009-04-16.html
Published: Apr 16, 2009
Author: Reid Wilson
Post Date: 2009-04-16 23:25:43 by Rotara
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GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers Republicans are contemplating how to involve thousands of anti-tax protesters in rebuilding their fractured party a day after nationwide tax-day tea parties drew widespread attention. "We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it." "This party has always been based on movements of individuals," McCarthy said. "People are frustrated, and the one thing you see with the tea parties is that they're not being organized by elected officials." Though President Obama maintains sky-high approval ratings, several Republicans suggested the anger they witnessed may be the beginnings of a re-energized base capable of propelling their party back into contention. South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, the Republican who has clashed more with the administration than just about any other public official, said he foresees a "genuine voter backlash, and there's probably a lot more to come with that." Most party leaders and strategists say it is not a matter of whether to involve the so-called tea-partiers, but how best to harness the new anger for political gain. Some go so far as to suggest the protests are signs that the GOP has finally found the vehicle it needs to get back to the majority. "This is very cathartic for the conservative movement," said veteran party strategist Craig Shirley, who has penned a biography of former President Reagan. "It means the movement is becoming re-Reaganized. It's becoming a populist movement again." "The Republican base was shrinking and depressed after the past two elections. Having activists organized on the ground and online is something the party should want," added Doug Heye, a GOP strategist. "The challenge now is how to positively channel that energy into electoral gains in the off-year and midterm elections." "Barack Obama created a populist movement right in front of our eyes," said Katon Dawson, chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. "Now that populist movement he created has thrown a question mark up." Said Dawson of the protesters he saw Wednesday: "It is part of the Republican movement. You see some libertarian faces there, and the Republican Party has got to practice the politics of addition, not subtraction." Still, the question of where the movement goes from here remains up in the air, with few evincing any urge to do anything to stand in protesters' way and with all insisting the events were organized independent of any national coordinating effort. "We want to help in any way we can, but this is not us doing it," McCarthy said. "We'll see," Boehner said when asked the direction in which the tea parties are headed. "But clearly they're responding to a lot of what we've had to say in Washington over the past couple of months." Though some in the GOP see protesters as distracting from a uniform message for a party struggling to define itself as something other than naysayers, others suggest the intensity of the tea party protests will rob party leaders in Washington of the option of ignoring them. "The flow of power has shifted. It's moving downward, not upward," Shirley said. "These people are in charge, not [new Republican National Committee Chairman] Michael Steele." Asked whether Republicans should embrace the protesters, Shirley said simply: "I don't think they have any choice." "Will they find a place? I think so, but a lot of it will depend on us and our candidates. We're going to have to sell ourselves to them," said Saul Anuzis, the former Michigan Republican Party chairman who attended a tea party in Lansing. "We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad," Anuzis said. "It's by no means a slam-dunk." Poster Comment: Posted: 04/16/09 02:27 PM [ET]
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#1. To: All (#0)
"We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it." You come near me and I'll slit your quisling throats !
The reinfestation of Zionists and free traders is about to commence.
That stoooooopid SOB believes it's going to end up being cooped by the National Globalist RD Party. S#it he could be right !
They can broadcast the new form of the party to millions of trailer parks, roadside cafes, granary towns, logging communities, truck stops, and hotel rooms. The people will nod and believe and vote. Look who owns the printing presses. They print/broadcast the distorted truth, just like they print/wire inflated money.
There's only 1 (ONE) way this will all be stopped. OK, 2 (TWO) if you live by faith.
The GOP can embrace this with their lips: Republicans are contemplating how to involve thousands of anti-tax protesters in rebuilding their fractured party a day after nationwide tax-day tea parties drew widespread attention.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#2. To: Rotara (#0)
#3. To: Deasy (#2)
"We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad," Anuzis said. "It's by no means a slam-dunk."
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#4. To: Rotara (#3)
(Edited)
#5. To: Deasy (#4)
Look who owns the printing presses. They print the distorted truth, just like they print inflated money.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#6. To: Rotara (#0)
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst
#7. To: Rotara (#5)
Faith can move mountains... but you better bring your shovel.
There's only 1 (ONE) way this will all be stopped. OK, 2 (TWO) if you live by faith.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst
#8. To: Critter (#6)
Don't tell foley or craig that !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#9. To: Critter (#7)
And lunch.
Faith can move mountains... but you better bring your shovel.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#10. To: Rotara (#9)
And lunch. That was my obtuse attempt at saying there is only one real option. ;)
Faith can move mountains... but you better bring your shovel.
This guy may be prowling 4um: |
Used Tires Amityville, Babylon, Lindenhurst
#11. To: Rotara (#0)
Gotta love that picture.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#12. To: Critter (#10)
I knowbro. I know. ;-)
That was my obtuse attempt at saying there is only one real option. ;)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams 
#13. To: farmfriend (#11)
Says it all IMO - and thanks for noticing my efforts in searching out some new material. ;-)
Gotta love that picture.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#14. To: Rotara (#0)
FOAD ;)
"We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad,"
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
#15. To: Rotara (#0)
Meet the new Kool-Aid, same as the old Kool-Aid.
GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
I've already said too much.
#16. To: christine (#14)
Standing in the shadows of love, getting ready for the heartaches to come.
GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
I've already said too much.
#17. To: Rotara (#0)
Some go so far as to suggest the protests are signs that the GOP has finally found the vehicle it needs to get back to the majority. "We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#18. To: christine (#14)
I love you dear. ;-) You might notice that I am now flying the Goliad Flag (Irish Brown then Texas Blood Red) in honor of the men in my family that have passed before me. "DON'T TREAD ON ME" (you mother fucker) and "I'D RATHER CUT OFF MY RIGHT ARM THAN LIVE IN TYRANNY" (you mother fucker) were two things I learned at a very early age.
FOAD ;)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#19. To: X-15 (#17)
doooooooooooood
LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#20. To: MUDDOG (#15)
Even Ron Paul is a Repubican. ;-) ehehe
Meet the new Kool-Aid, same as the old Kool-Aid.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#21. To: Rotara (#13)
Mmmm sweetie, I always notice your efforts!
and thanks for noticing my efforts
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#22. To: farmfriend (#21)
Mmmm sweetie, I always notice your efforts!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#23. To: MUDDOG (#16)
go away do you know this one? ;)
won't you just go away
go away
don't you come back one day
take your stuff
take all of your precious things
leave right now
who knows what tomorrow brings
stay away
won't you please stay away
live your life
but live it real far away
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
#24. To: christine (#23)
go away won't you just go away
#25. To: Rotara (#19)
If the GOP thinks they can make hay out of the Tea Parties then they've finally jumped the shark and the GOP is DEAD.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#26. To: X-15 (#25)
Yes. Yes it is. Because the Demorat-Repubican illusion is over.
the GOP is DEAD
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#27. To: X-15 (#25)
One party down and one to go. After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save. Some folks continue on with the effort, but it's wearing them down. We need a populus party, not a corporate cronie party, if we are ever going to get some representation.
If the GOP thinks they can make hay out of the Tea Parties then they've finally jumped the shark and the GOP is DEAD.
#28. To: christine (#23)
I didn't know it until I looked it up on google just now. These songs take a lyric here and a lyric there from older songs and cook it together, like "It Ain't Me Babe" (Go away from my window), "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" (Take what you need you think will last), and "Who Knows What Tomorrow May Bring."
I've already said too much.
#29. To: TwentyTwelve, christine (#24)
OOooo a new smilie! Trade? I'll even throw in a bonus smilie!
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#30. To: Rotara (#22)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#31. To: abraxas, X-15 (#27)
Yep, take the red pill, get out of the matrix and move on.
After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#32. To: Rotara (#0)
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#33. To: abraxas (#27)
Let me guess, you ran into the old lady who's been a Republican for 49 years, wears a goofy hat with flowers in it, and she's running your county's Republican party come hell or high water and nobody better question her eminence??
After trying to work within my Ron Paul group to make salient changes within the local GOP, I soon realized that the party is simply too deeply infected to save.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#34. To: farmfriend, Rotara (#30)
Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#35. To: abraxas, ALL (#27)
I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all ! Can I get an Amen ? ! ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#36. To: farmfriend (#30)
I'm a little Watch out
horny ornery tonight. ~(8^|
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#37. To: farmfriend (#31)
I'm shouting it from the rooftops because we are LITERALLY suspended over thin air as a country and people right now. Khrushchev was onto something me thinks. ugh
Yep, take the red pill, get out of the matrix and move on.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#38. To: Original_Intent (#32)
I wonder what Dr. Paul thinks. /s
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: X-15, farmfriend (#34)
Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#40. To: Rotara (#39)
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#41. To: Rotara (#35)
Except the one after the NWO is brought to its knees ! Can I get an Amen ? ! ? Amen !
I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !
Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.
De La Boétie
#42. To: X-15 (#33)
Nope, Nevada state Republican convention. We had already swept through the party platform that was constitutionally sound and a return to the Ron Paul vision. We had pushed through the necessary voting adjustments, following all the tedious Roberts Rule of Order. We were the majority. Ron Paul was on his way to be the nominee for Nevada. Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.
Let me guess, you ran into the old lady who's been a Republican for 49 years, wears a goofy hat with flowers in it, and she's running your county's Republican party come hell or high water and nobody better question her eminence??
#43. To: X-15 (#40)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#44. To: noone222 (#41)
Amen
I love you my Brother !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#45. To: abraxas (#42)
I know what you are saying is truth and afaic those mother f**kers should ALL be hung until DEAD. I'm talkin' "shit their pants - dead".
Then the party hacks rushed in and stole the ballot box after the ballots had been cast and made a mockery of the entire process. Held up the process for weeks, balked at legal manouvers on our side and rammed Juan McAmnesty through by deception and fraud.........the true GOP way.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#46. To: Rotara (#35)
Can I get an Amen ? ! ? I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud. In a land that is supposedly free we should have at least twenty parties that can get on the ballot, instead of just two offering the same crooks and liars who share the same interests.
I suggest we permanently ABOLISH all PARTIES once and for all !
#47. To: abraxas (#46)
How many parties is too many, IYO ?
I'm for permanently abolishing the two party fraud.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#48. To: Rotara (#36)
That makes two of us.
I'm a little
horny ornery tonight. ~(8^|
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#49. To: X-15, rotara (#34)
Hey, hey, you two knock that sentimental crap off, this is a political forum ;-)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#50. To: farmfriend (#48)
That makes two of us.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#51. To: farmfriend (#49)
xoxoxo
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#52. To: Rotara (#47)
I think 20 viable parties would be great. Hell we have socialists and communists already, why not put 'em on the ballot and put some sunshine on their ideology rather than pretending to be otherwise? We'd spend a hell of a lot less money if we had 20 parties, than just two corporate cronie parties. The entire election process is a sham where hidden interests pay the way and the duped public continues to believe they only have two options that are viable. I say BS to that. The only thing stopping us from tearing the whole process apart is that we are conditioned constantly to believe it is the only way. This sham can't be fixed from within, the fixing has to come from the people. I'm happy to see the GOP flopping around like a fish out of water. Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.
How many parties is too many, IYO ?
#53. To: Rotara (#50)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#54. To: abraxas (#52)
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
I hear you loud and clear
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#55. To: abraxas, Rotara (#52)
We had a gal just join JBS who was a Hillary supporter. Part of some Hillary club. Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
Next up, Dem guppies meet up with the disgruntled base.......I give it less than six months before we start to see the Dems disintegrate too. It has already begun.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#56. To: Rotara, abraxas (#54)
Out here in CA part of the budget deal was to make an open primary. Sound good? Only the top two vote getters regardless of party will be on the general ballot. Oh yeah, that's really going to make it fair.
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#57. To: farmfriend (#53)
Hello !
grrrrrrowllllll
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#58. To: farmfriend (#55)
The Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
Demorat Communist Party USA was easy to spot until the Marxist Repubicans flared up.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#59. To: Rotara (#57)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#60. To: farmfriend (#56)
I believe that anyone that can pay to register should get a shot to earn my vote.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#61. To: farmfriend (#59)
Hello
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#62. To: Rotara (#58)
I really wonder how long it will take for those who voted for "change" to get disillusioned. I have no faith that it will happen. And then you still have to deal with the "lesser of two evils" Rep.
The
Demorat Communist Party USA was easy to spot until the Marxist Repubicans flared up.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#63. To: Rotara (#61)
Hello
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#64. To: Rotara (#54)
With millions of voters, we need some distinctions amongst candidates prior to duking it out. Without corporate cronies putting up the funding, those running for election would actually NEED the people to roll up their sleeves and contribute some funds. The people need to know that the person they are backing will represent THEM and their perspective, that's where parties actually help rather than hinder the process. Why should libertarians or constitutionalists be considered not viable? That's just insanity.
But why not just put every name on the ballot and let them duke it out ?
#65. To: Rotara (#60)
Yeah, I understand. Out here in CA they have rigged the system to make it difficult. You have to gather signatures and it is hard to know where the boundries are. The rules are different for third parties.
I believe that anyone that can pay to register should get a shot to earn my vote.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#66. To: farmfriend (#62)
Thanks for bringing THAT up ! (bleeeeeech)
Lesser of two evils
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#67. To: farmfriend (#56)
Open primary would be great if the funding wasn't coming from corporate interests for just two parties, while the rest are treated like red-headed step children. Without addressing that issue, it's more bs. Fair has to do with who is paying to put these crooks in office. The people vote based on paid for dubious campaign ads.
Out here in CA part of the budget deal was to make an open primary. Sound good? Only the top two vote getters regardless of party will be on the general ballot. Oh yeah, that's really going to make it fair.
#68. To: Rotara (#66)
There are people out there who strongly believe that McCain would have been better.
Thanks for bringing THAT up ! (bleeeeeech)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#69. To: abraxas (#67) (Edited)
Which is the point I believe. It would shut third party out.
while the rest are treated like red-headed step children. Without addressing that issue, it's more bs.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#70. To: abraxas, rotara (#67)
Well it is pumpkin time for me. Have to be to work early! Well not toooo early. It's only a 6:00am start. Usually it's 5am. Sometimes earlier.
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#71. To: Rotara, TwentyTwelve, Artisan, James Deffenbach, rowdee, Diana, bush_is_a_moonie (#0) (Edited)
"We should embrace them," House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill on Thursday. "These are Americans who believe that their government, at all levels, are going in the wrong direction and they're tired of it. Americans are sick and tired of seeing the rich taxed on their capital gains and business profits when there are millions of ordinary, minimum wage earners to carry the tax load for the country. And, why should the rich have to provide health and unemployment insurance for workers who are no longer of any use to their employers? And, why should rich American companies be hindered by immigration laws that force them to pay first world wages to spoiled Americans and to compete with foreign competition that can use slave labor to build their products? Americans are sick of it I tell you! This is a populist, grassroots uprising and if Obama tries to reverse course on Bush's tax cuts for the rich I'm afraid the country will explode!", Boehner said..... _________________________________ Although I have doubts about "Obama's sky-high approval ratings" (according to Ed Steele Obama's true ratings are lower than Bush's at this point in his first term) I do believe that the GOP is trying to manufacture and channel a tidal wave of anger to cover their "Protect BushCo's 'favor the rich' agenda at all costs" and they honestly believe that Americans are that fucking stupid and won't see the soft, carefully manicured hand writing the secret directives from The Golden Castle On the Hill. And, the puppeteers know very well that Obama is under orders to follow the same playbook as BushCo and he will completely ignore the voices of dissent and the whole world if necessary to follow the directives from the shadow govt. If the past teaches anything it's that this is a necessary exercise to keep us occupied in our playpens and to create the illusion of political involvement and relevance while preparing for the next swing back to the other "truth" where "Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia!". Although no one responded when I mentioned this previously, it so seriously pissed me off that I'll write it again: Back when Sen. Dick Lugar was toying with the idea of running for Emperor his exploratory platform was "abolish the IRS and the income tax". After he withdrew he returned to the senate and never breathed another word about this issue that was "so crucial to America's survival." And, when Bush was kissing every baby, every ass and every baby's ass he could while running for re-election Denny "Let me show you how to hold that bat you cute little feller-Have you ever seen a grown man naked?" Hastert said that if re-elected Bush and the GOP were going to abolish the IRS and the income tax! He was talking to a reporter in what appeared to be the outer lobby of the House and he would have never said such a thing if he wasn't instructed to plant another "all things for all people" seed to guarantee Bush's re-election. Of course I know that this issue is just campaign bait and they have no intention of abolishing the tool they use to silence their enemies the way corporations use SLAPP suits. This is evidenced by the fact that they never detail any IRS abuses of Americans or explain that income taxes are used to fund the federal reserve swindle not to build bridges, roads, the military, education, etc.,. If they were serious about de-funding the federal reserve some insider would actually introduce a bill ("Hoo wants to bell the cat?" "Mee? Kiss MY ASS, Hastert!") and they would have no trouble selling it to the people once the truth is allowed to fall upon the ears of the long suffering masses. But, none may criticize the royal families of banking and finance lest his or her plane falls from the sky or he/she ends up swinging from a rope under a bridge in the old Italian P2 tradition. There can be no doubt that millions of Americans fall for these GOP theater productions just as in 2000 when they "spontaneously" rioted to force the "abrupt cancellation of a hand recount" in FLA. One GOP loyalist-state level functionary at Liberty Forum even admitted that he was "called up and activated" and that he got on a plane for that very purpose! It was the first time in America's history that "angry, dispossessed American rioters" flew to the event first class or drove in gas guzzling Humvees secure in the knowledge that the FLA Highway Patrol wouldn't ticket them for speeding once they explained their "mission to the uniformed branch of the Friends Of Bush"! ("Hey, you guys performed a great service for America when you scared those darkies away from the polls. Don't worry, we'll take it from here! And, tell Katherine Harris that it would be an honor to bite the squirrel or a great American heroine!") "Yeah, Honey, take the kids out of school for a few days because after I'm done rioting we can take them to Sea World and Disney! Of course we can afford it! We'll take The Auto Train and I'll list it as a business deduction! For the next eight years we're gonna reap the profits! REAP REAP REAP!" Miami's rent-a-riot
#72. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)
I'm still amazed when people say they were unaware that the state of Florida and a couple Florida counties quietly settled out of court admitting they committed voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement in the 2000 election.
#73. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#72)
The news outlets delivered it in the same calm, non-news tone one would expect in a story about missing manhole covers. It should have set the nation on fire. I remember the report very well and my initial shock and then resignation to a state of quiet despair. And, since you've reminded me I have to say that it's more evidence (to me because I'm so absolutely discouraged-it's as if JFK was assassinated yesterday) that America is past the point of no return. Let's me and you gorge and purge, then drunkenly stumble to the next Roman orgy while the night is young, shall we?
I'm still amazed when people say they were unaware that the state of Florida and a couple Florida counties quietly settled out of court admitting they committed voter fraud and voter disenfranchisement in the 2000 election.
#74. To: Rotara (#0)
This morning I thought of a better idea. GOP contemplates OBEYING tea-partiers. They'd win.
GOP contemplates embracing tea-partiers
#75. To: mirage (#74)
Eff'em
They are lying frauds. Traitors. I remember what they did to Ron Paul, the last great hope politically.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#76. To: farmfriend (#55)
What finally woke her up?
We had a gal just join JBS who was a Hillary supporter. Part of some Hillary club. Anyway, she has seen the light and can't believe she bought into the Dems crap all these years.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
#77. To: Rotara (#75)
Yup, just about the entire bunch with only a few exceptions.
They are lying frauds. Traitors. I remember what they did to Ron Paul, the last great hope politically. Eff'em
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
#78. To: Rotara (#0)
Someone may have already asked this question but I have just read the article--if the question is redundant disregard it but isn't that Anuzis guy the one who wanted to exclude Ron Paul from the alleged "debates"?
"Will they find a place? I think so, but a lot of it will depend on us and our candidates. We're going to have to sell ourselves to them," said Saul Anuzis, the former Michigan Republican Party chairman who attended a tea party in Lansing.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#79. To: christine (#14)
FOAD ;) You captured my sentiments exactly.
"We may be the default place for them to go, because the alternative, the Democrats, is so bad,"
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#80. To: Rotara (#0)
i heard a clearchannel host say on the 15th that 'there were never any tea parties while bush was in office' which is pure bunk and easily disproven, but not really worth the effort. this whole tea party thing and the GOP establishment embrace of it was probably meant to, among other things, disgust true revolters to never want to go to a tea party again. i know the whle idea of a tea party is soured for me now. i do not want to stand around with a bunch of republicans
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#81. To: Artisan (#80)
Good points. Ron Paul set the precedent for being a C4L Repubican. I am at war with the National Globalist Party and remaking it isn't in the works.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#82. To: Rotara (#60)
I believe that anyone who can buy my vote should get it. ahaha.
I believe that anyone that can pay to register should get a shot to earn my vote.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#83. To: James Deffenbach (#82) (Edited)
You little whore. What's your price ? ehehe
LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)
Or commit suicide by stabbing themselves 27 times in the chest while their arms are behind their backs in handcuffs. Or maybe the way that the cop who knew too much about the Oklahoma City bombing (Terry Yeakey)--they claimed he was a suicide too but if you read what happened to him before he died you know that's a bald-faced like. The bullet's entrance wound was in the right temple, above the eye. It went through the policeman's head and exited in the area of the left cheek, near the bottom of the ear lobe line. The trajectory was from a 40-45 degree angle above his head. There were no powder burns. No weapon was ever reported as found at the scene, but independent investigators speculated that had Yeakey shot himself with standard police issue - a Glock 9mm or a .357 Magnum - his head would have been far more destroyed than it apparently was. One of the last people Officer Yeakey talked to was a friend who knew he was on a mission of private investigation. Terry had told him that he was on his way to El Reno to check out something but first he had to shake the FBI agents who were following him. He was traveling in his private automobile, and witnesses said later that the inside looked like someone had "butchered a hog" on the front seat. While political assassinations within American borders have become more prevalent in recent years, the ploy to place the blame on someone else - even the victim himself - is nothing new. Neither is the gullibility of the American public...."But, none may criticize the royal families of banking and finance lest his or her plane falls from the sky or he/she ends up swinging from a rope under a bridge in the old Italian P2 tradition.
"...The official report said "Suicide," and anyone who believes an ANFO bomb destroyed Murrah and the other surrounding buildings will believe this. According to the report, Terry slashed himself eleven times on both forearms before cutting his own throat twice near the jugular vein. Then, apparently seeking even a more private place to die, he crawled another mile of rough terrain away from his car and climbed a fence, before shooting himself in the head with a small caliber revolver. What appeared to be rope burns on his neck, handcuff bruises to his wrists, and muddy grass imbedded in his slash wounds strongly indicated that he had some help in traversing this final distance.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#85. To: Rotara (#83)
What's your price ? ehehe Pretty high. And part of it is agreeing with me politically and I am a fan of Frederic Bastiat.
You little whore.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#86. To: James Deffenbach (#85)
You drive a hard bargain !
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#87. To: Rotara (#86)
Well, let me know if you decide to run for something and, if the price is right, you can have my vote. Can't say fairer than that, eh? LOL!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#88. To: phantom patriot (#76)
I was told but afraid it didn't stick.
What finally woke her up?
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#89. To: James Deffenbach (#87)
I'm running for the beach amigo !!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#90. To: Rotara (#89)
You know where to send the money, right?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#91. To: James Deffenbach (#90)
?
123 Bucklemyshoe Lane
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#92. To: Rotara (#91)
? Whachu talkin' 'bout, Willis?!?!? No, that ain't right.
123 Bucklemyshoe Lane
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#93. To: James Deffenbach (#92)
?
456 Pickupsticks Rd
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#94. To: Rotara (#75)
Oh I concur that our single-party system leads to frauds. I'm just saying that the way to win is to OBEY the Tea Parties.
#95. To: mirage (#94)
I know that and now apparently the R wing of the NGP knows that too. After what they did to Ron Paul. I hope patriots and the newly awakened are smart / wise enough not to fall for it.
I'm just saying that the way to win is to OBEY the Tea Parties.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#96. To: farmfriend (#88)
I hear ya. I hate it when that happens LOL. I was just curious, it seems as though so many are stuck on a particular person or party. Although perhaps we are witnessing an awakening. I guess we wont know until the next event. I'm glad for anyone who begins to see a little clearer. I mean really there are so many reasons to question and mistrust the gov right now.
I was told but afraid it didn't stick.
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
#97. To: James Deffenbach (#84)
I remember Officer Yeakey's death very well. He was African American and a family man and he was apparently well thought of in the cop community. But, when the FEDs (and the SPLC covering for their agent-provocateur in Elohim City Andreas Strassmeier) decided that The militia (GASP!) was taking the rap for that terrible crime any evidence that proved "ill fitting" had to be destroyed. And, this murder of an African American police officer is the best evidence of the phony crocodile tears that Morris Dees and his all white band of executive SPLC staff cry for the downtrodden minorities in The US. Like all commie fronts they only use blacks to keep the doors open for their commie foreign agents and themselves. (Dees reportedly has sexual appetites that run to the extreme and unlawful.)
#98. To: HOUNDDAWG (#97)
bump
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#99. To: HOUNDDAWG (#97)
Yeah, I agree. Morris Dees is lower than whale dung in the bottom of the Mariannas Trench and one of those people who wouldn't be missed for months (maybe ever) by anyone other than those who help him con the naive and gullible. WHO KILLED [Officer] TERRY YEAKEY? Link to a good article about Terry Yeakey for anyone who might be interested.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#100. To: James Deffenbach (#99)
Reading it makes me burn inside all over again. It makes me think thoughts I shouldn't be thinking. Savage, cruel, un-Christian things. If some gray alien ever leaves his UFO double parked and I get the chance, I'm swiping it. And, after a few trial and error tests if I succeed in learning how to fire the weapons on board then some murdering sumbitches ain't gonna believe what happens next. "You guys ain't gonna believe how pinpoint accurate this energy beam weapon is! And, by the way, have you ever wondered what it would be like to have to squat to pee?" Well, I"M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'VE WRITTEN YOUR NAMES IN THE SNOW FOR THE LAST TIME!!!
#101. To: HOUNDDAWG (#100)
~#-)
I resemble that remark.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#102. To: Rotara (#95)
R labeled candidates need to have the Ron Paul Stamp of Approval now for the newly awakened to pull the lever for them, methinks. Its a process - it will take a while.
I hope patriots and the newly awakened are smart / wise enough not to fall for it.
#103. To: mirage (#102)
We're down to months. I don't have anymore realistic (or unrealistic) hope left. Next phase.
Its a process - it will take a while.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#104. To: HOUNDDAWG (#100)
Yeah, I know how you feel. Isn't it amazing that they murdered him the way they did and then expect people to believe their bs about suicide?
If some gray alien ever leaves his UFO double parked and I get the chance, I'm swiping it. And, after a few trial and error tests if I succeed in learning how to fire the weapons on board then some murdering sumbitches ain't gonna believe what happens next.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#105. To: Rotara, James Deffenbach (#101) (Edited)
When I picture the sheer horror and think of the cruelty of those bastards who killed Terry Yeakey I wouldn't second guess Our Creator if Idi Amin was sent as the avenging angel. His brand of terror was positively sublime and quite possibly appropriate to the circumstances of punishing soulless govt hit men, CIA spooks, DIA and DOJ "interrogators" and the politicians that unleash and insulate these animals. And, let's not forget The Clintons' and Spike Reno's complicity in that evil business. And, if ever a case warranted a change of venue in the interest of justice McVeigh's trial did only to be ignored when inconvenient for the govt and their fellow demon conspirators. And, the case was even assigned to Judge Richard P. Matsch who was properly cured and rid of his judicial independence when his daughter "fell" into an active volcano several years before. as FDR said "In politics, nothing happens by chance" or words to that effect. How did we ever allow these beasts to rule over us and to completely insulate themselves from the administration of justice?
#106. To: HOUNDDAWG (#105)
We won't like the answers I'm sure.
How did we ever allow these beasts to rule over us and to completely insulate themselves from the administration of justice?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#107. To: Rotara (#106)
To suggest that "Americans were asleep at the wheel" is a great stretch of kindness that we may not deserve.
We won't like the answers I'm sure.
#108. To: HOUNDDAWG (#107)
I know
I know
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#109. To: James Deffenbach (#104)
I can only hope that their arrogance contains within it the seeds of their own destruction.
Yeah, I know how you feel. Isn't it amazing that they murdered him the way they did and then expect people to believe their bs about suicide?
#110. To: HOUNDDAWG (#105)
I wish I knew. I wish I knew why people didn't rise up and hang the members of the Supreme Court who ruled in Julliard v. Greenman that the government had the authority under the Constitution to foist paper money off on us (and of course any honest reading of the Constitution and knowledge of the debates surrounding the adoption of it proves them wrong). I wish I knew why people didn't rise up and hang Woodrow Wilson who facilitated two of the biggest cons ever perpetrated on the American people, the Federal Reserve Bank and the 16th amendment (got 'em both in the same year). I wish I knew why people didn't rebel and hang that communist Federal Deficit Russianvelt for taking up all the gold. And that is just the beginning of the b@$tards I would like to see doing a rope dance.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#111. To: HOUNDDAWG (#107)
Do I dare defend an unwitting mass of sheeple that were brainwashed, suckered and ultimately duped by appealing to their most base flaws ?? I didn't think so...lol
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#112. To: James Deffenbach (#110)
How about all of the false flag wars where they MURDERED our own people to start NWO wars ?
What you said
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#113. To: Rotara, James Deffenbach (#112)
Every time I think of that day I remember that people tried to exit the lower floors (of Towers One & Two) on the stairs only to be turned around, presumably to keep them inside and to guarantee a shockingly high body count. And, then I want to flip out on someone.
How about all of the false flag wars where they MURDERED our own people to start NWO wars ?
#114. To: HOUNDDAWG (#113)
-tearing up-
The 9-11 jumpers; they didn't "jump"
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#115. To: abraxas (#67)
I never understood the need for primaries. The parties should convention and select their candidate on their own dime and then the selected candidate from each party put on the final ballot. That way the taxpayers don't get stuck paying for all those silly primaries most of which have no bearing on the final outcome.
Open primary would be great if the funding wasn't coming from corporate interests for just two parties, while the rest are treated like red-headed step children. Without addressing that issue, it's more bs. Fair has to do with who is paying to put these crooks in office. The people vote based on paid for dubious campaign ads.
#116. To: Rotara (#103)
I tend to estimate well, but I'd say we need 9-14 to get things rocking. We probably have 3-6.
We're down to months.
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