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Title: Dinosaur herd buried in Noah’s Flood in Inner Mongolia, China
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URL Source: http://creation.com/dinosaur-herd-b ... -flood-in-inner-mongolia-china
Published: Apr 18, 2009
Author: Tas Walker
Post Date: 2009-04-18 14:52:22 by Old Friend
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An international team of scientists have uncovered graphic evidence of the deadly terror unleashed on a herd of dinosaurs as they were buried under sediment by the rising waters of Noah’s Flood in western Inner Mongolia (figure 1).1 Dinosaur bones were first discovered at the site, located at the base of a small hill in the Gobi Desert, in 1978 by a Chinese geologist. After about 20 years, a team of Chinese and Japanese scientists recovered the first skeletons, which they named Sinornithomimus, meaning “Chinese bird mimic”. A few years later in 2001, the international team excavated the remains of more than 25 dinosaurs, creating a large quarry in the process as they as they followed the skeletons into the base of the hill. Remarkable excavation As the team carefully mapped the location of the bones and strata that contained them (figure 2), it became clear that the dinosaurs were all within the same layer of mudstone (i.e. the same bedding plane), generally facing the same direction and remarkably well preserved.2 Image from Varricchio et al., ref. 2 Map of some dinosaur remains at the site in Inner Mongolia. Note the skeletal parts have generally remained together indicating that the animals were buried before their remains disintegrated. Figure 2. Map of some dinosaur remains at the site in Inner Mongolia. Note the skeletal parts have generally remained together indicating that the animals were buried before their remains disintegrated. Most of the dinosaurs were buried in a life-like crouching posture and, even more surprisingly, the limbs of the dinosaurs were plunging down into the underlying mud as deep as 40 cm (figure 3).3 Their hind legs were often still bent indicating that they were struggling to escape. Two of the skeletons were found one right over the other where they apparently fell. This fossil find captures in stone how the dinosaurs perished when they became mired in the mud. The thick layer of mud in which the animals were trapped displayed bedding that was twisted and convoluted4 indicating that the sediment was only recently deposited from flowing water and still soft when it was disturbed. There was an absence of bioturbation (such as burrowing by worms or crustaceans) in the underlying mud,5 which also indicated that the mud was only recently deposited. Not only was the thick under layer of sediment recently deposited, but the overlying sediments were deposited soon after the animals were trapped, burying the animals before their soft parts had a chance to rot away. Nearly all the fossil bones were surrounded by a drab, blue-gray halo indicating how far the soft tissue extended (figure 3), and that the carcasses had decomposed after being buried, not before. In addition, gastroliths (stomach stones) were found in the fossilized ribcages of some animals, as well as carbonized stomach contents (figure 3).6 So promptly were the animals buried that the delicate bones in the eye (sclerotic rings) of some animals were preserved. The team interpreted the site as a “catastrophic miring of an immature herd”. Image from Varricchio et al., ref. 2 Fossil skeletons 3 and 4 (see figure 2) recovered from site. Note the bluish-gray halo surrounding all the bones indicating the skeletons were buried with the soft parts in tact. A: Plan view of the two skeletons. Note how they overlap. B: Snout and unusual neck curvature likely indicating death throes. C: Pelvis almost all preserved. D: Gastrolith (stomach stone) mass and carbonized stomach contents within rib cage indicating rapid burial. E: Cross-section of rear leg mired deep in mud and in bent position and F: cross section of foreleg deep in the mud, both indicating catastrophic entrapment. White scale bars are 10 cm. Figure 3. Fossil skeletons 3 and 4 (see figure 2) recovered from site. Note the bluish-gray halo surrounding all the bones indicating the skeletons were buried with the soft parts in tact. A: Plan view of the two skeletons. Note how they overlap. B: Snout and unusual neck curvature likely indicating death throes. C: Pelvis almost all preserved. D: Gastrolith (stomach stone) mass and carbonized stomach contents within rib cage indicating rapid burial. E: Cross-section of rear leg mired deep in mud and in bent position and F: cross section of foreleg deep in the mud, both indicating catastrophic entrapment. White scale bars are 10 cm. Noah’s Flood? When I read of such a large herd of animals being frantically trapped in thick mud that was only recently deposited and then rapidly buried by more sediment I immediately think of Noah’s Flood. The fossil evidence is exactly the sort of thing that you would expect as a result of the global catastrophe described in the Bible. “The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. Every living thing that moved on the earth perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days. (Genesis 7:18–24.)” However, Noah’s Flood is not an explanation that came to the minds of the paleontologists who excavated the dinosaurs in Inner Mongolia. Consequently, they struggled to explain what they found. Their main problem was that they were looking for a modern environment that corresponds with the evidence but Noah’s Flood was a unique event.7 There has been no geological disaster in the last 4,500 years that has come anywhere close to what happened during the Flood. A herd of juveniles Lead author, David Varricchio, assistant professor of paleontology at Montana State University, USA, indicated his surprise at what the team uncovered and alluded to their inability to explain it with a modern environment. “Finding a mired herd is exceedingly rare among living animals”, he said. Nearly all the fossil bones were surrounded by a drab, blue-gray halo indicating how far the soft tissue extended, and that the carcasses had decomposed after being buried, not before. One problem that the paleontologists encountered is that according to uniformitarianism the fossils layers preserve a living environment that existed at that time. Therefore, the team was surprised that the dinosaurs consisted only of juveniles without any adults or hatchlings present. However, that is perfectly understandable in the Flood catastrophe when animals were fleeing. You would expect the hatchlings to have already perished and the adults to have fled and abandoned the youngsters. In scientific circles these sorts of anomalies are never reported as a problem. Rather, the paleontologists reported this unexpected result as a “new discovery”. They said it was evidence of “distinctive dinosaur sociality” where the immature dinosaurs were left to fend for themselves in juvenile herds while the mature adults were occupied elsewhere with parental care of eggs and hatchlings. What an amazing story. All that mud Another problem for the team was the thickness of the mud in which the dinosaurs were trapped. They suggested the area was a low energy lake environment, which is the standard interpretation that uniformitarians invoke to explain muddy sediments. “The lamination and very thin beds of the intervening unit represent slow deposition under quiet, low-energy conditions and an absence of significant invertebrate or vertebrate bioturbation.” However, recent laboratory experiments have shown that such an automatic interpretation almost certainly incorrect because mud readily deposits from flowing water.8 In order to account for the depth of mud in an area where the animals could be trapped the team claimed the water level of the lake was lowering as a result of drought. That could account for the mud depth in a limited region close to the shore. But it is hard to imagine how, under normal conditions, so many animals could have become trapped together so suddenly in a small area of mud at the edge of a lake. ‘Finding a mired herd is exceedingly rare among living animals’—David Varricchio, assistant professor of paleontology at Montana State University, USA It is also hard to account for the absence of bioturbation in the mud. If you say that worms and crustaceans had not colonized the sediment because the mud had only been recently deposited then you would have to explain what sort of process would deposit half a metre of mud so quickly. And, how could such a thick deposit have been laid down at the edge of a lake? The authors opted to say that the unbioturbated laminae suggested the mud was situated in deeper water. But deeper water would help the animals escape because water would help to support their body weight. Another problem is that the team found mudcracks on the mud, which they also interpreted as indicators of drought. Mudcracks form when mud emerges from the water and has dried for a day or so. How could the mudcracks form on the mud surface if it was in deeper water? This array of evidence that conflicted with their expectations puzzled the team and they once again presented the results as an “exceptional” discovery. However, the thick mud deposit, rapid sedimentation and catastrophic entrapment of the animals are easily explained by the Flood catastrophe. And mud does not need to be exposed above water for mud cracks to form. Shrinkage cracks will form in situ once the overlying sediments have been deposited and the water within the mud is expelled and the mud contracts.9 A desert? These dinosaur fossils were found in the Cretaceous sediments of Inner Mongolia that were interpreted as being deposited on the continent. More specifically they were found in the Ulansuhai Formation of the Upper Cretaceous, which is interpreted as being a desert environment. “Through this period the region experienced an increase in overall aridity and a shift from lacustrine [lake] and fluvial [river] Lower Cretaceous facies [rocks] to predominantly aeolian [desert] dune and associated interdune facies in the Upper Cretaceous.”10 What were these herds of dinosaurs doing in a desert? Where did they get the food then needed? How was such a large herd trapped in mud so quickly in a desert? And how were they buried so quickly in a desert, before the soft flesh had time to rot away and before the skeletons had disintegrated? The fact that sediment was able to accumulate to such a depth over the animals (now at the base of a small hill) indicates that the depth of the water was rising on the continent to provide the necessary accommodation, not falling. So, it was not a desert. Uniformitarian geologists invoke a desert interpretation in an attempt to explain the large thickness of the sandstone strata and the huge sand dunes within the beds. They say it was a desert to hold onto their uniformitarian philosophy that it was like a modern environment and thus try to avoid acknowledging the huge volume of water that must have been necessary, as indicated by the obvious signs of catastrophe within the sand. So they are prepared to propose an explanation where lakes and rivers turn into deserts full of dinosaur herds that become trapped in thick mud and are buried quickly. One wrong interpretation leads to another. Take off the blinkers Blinkers change the way a horse sees the world and the uniformitarian paradigm has a similar effect on scientists. Blinkers change the way a horse sees the world and the uniformitarian paradigm has a similar effect on scientists. Even though they carefully excavate and document the fossil dinosaurs buried around the world the philosophy of uniformitarianism biases the way they look at the evidence, stops them exploring all the options and controls the sort of explanations they promote. Here in Inner Mongolia in the middle of Asia the historical reality of Noah’s Flood explains the new dinosaur finds elegantly. The herd of dinosaurs was a casualty of the enormous watery catastrophe that engulfed the region during the Flood. They were overwhelmed during the first half of the catastrophe as the waters were rising on the earth, while air-breathing, land-dwelling animals were still alive. Sediment continued to accumulate on the continent during this Inundatory stage as the waters continued to rise. Then, when the waters receded from the continents they eroded some of the overlying material, shaping the landscape, and leaving occasional erosional remnants, such as the small hill where the geologists were able to excavate this dinosaur graveyard.
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#1. To: All (#0)
And they KNOW this came about because of Noahs' flood.... how? There are some interesting artifacts out there. Even T Rex soft tissue has been found, but this claim from a floof in China isn't proven in any way. .
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So, did no dinosaurs make it onto the ark?
Because God told them. And they are about five thousand years old. God told them that too.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" They probably died out after the flood. Lots of things have become extinct since the flood. God did say in the Bible that he created all animalkind. He also said there was no death in the earth before sin. So according to the Bible there couldn't be any dead dinosaurs running around before Adam and Eve. If that were the case God would be a liar because he said that sin caused death to enter the world. Also if you look up Behemoth in the Bible it seems to be describing a dinosaur. There is one other reference in the Bible to what could be dinosaurs.
Why else would all these dinosaurs be stuck in the same mud hole. It fits perfectly with what the Bible teaches. You just don't want to admit it and never would under any circumstance.
And they are about five thousand years old. God told them that too You have nothing to add to the conversation. You lover of murderers and terrorists.
No, it says that they died at the same time in the same place. It does not mean that it happened in the Biblical flood. The article makes that connection, and there is no connection other than these animals died at the same time and place. Were there no floods previous to Noahs' flood? You are taking this on blind faith, not faith with a reason and not with science.
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He loves God?
Also there are some out of place artifacts, one of which I already mentioned. I am not aware of any physical process that would preserve T Rex soft tissue for 60 million years, but it happened. There's a lot we dont know. .
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Silly you. Just Silly. You support extreme Zionism. They are the Murders and Terrorists. A Useful Idiot is what the Likud Party considers you - and they are correct.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Were there no floods previous to Noahs' flood? The flood is the ONLY Explanation for the global fossil record. Noahs flood was the only global flood. But if you want to believe in evolution by all means make a fool of yourself.
You have a terrorist pic for a tagline. A murderer. Jews have a right to defend themselves rather you like it or not.
I obviously do.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Well then, that's that. Thanks for telling us the TRUTH.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Cockroaches didn't.
So what? It bugs you? Why?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Dinosaurs were killed in Noah's flood but none of them were invited and/or otherwise made it onto the Ark. Ack. Did God hate dinosaurs? Why weren't they on the passenger list?
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Exactly. Inquiring minds want to know. I mean we've got rats, mice, roaches, spiders, termites, snakes, mosquitoes, ants...I could go on and on, but why no dinosaurs?
It gets too expensive to keep hiring new agents?
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Prove these fossils are the result of a global flood. You can't, but it would be amusing to see you try. I dont believe in evolution. I am a creationist. There's no way all life descended from a single cell miraculously formed in primordial slime that was hit by lightning. .
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Exactly. Inquiring minds want to know. I mean we've got rats, mice, roaches, spiders, termites, snakes, mosquitoes, ants...I could go on and on, but why no dinosaurs? You sound like an athiest Lod. I thought you were a christian. Do you think God was lying when he said there was no death before sin? Lots of creatures have gone extinct and continue to go extinct. What makes you believe there were no dinosaurs on the ark. Do you have something to base that on?
There is no other logical explanation. If not then tell us how.
Ack. Did God hate dinosaurs? Why weren't they on the passenger list? What do you base that on? Do you base it on there are no dinosaurs today. If that is your "logic" then I guess you should say every animal that is extinct was not on the ark. You athiests sure are stupid.
Cockroaches didn't. Do you think no animals or creatures have gone extinct since the time period of the flood?
It's not up to me to prove the article right, it's up to the author. He proved nothing as this relates to a "global" flood. They found a pile of bones and then made the leap to Noahs' flood. No proof provided. How could you use the word "logical" in relation to this article? If you want to believe this came from Noahs' flood, OK. But you will have a hard time convincing anyone that this article helps to prove that. .
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If the flood wasn't global the dinosaurs could have waited it out till the water receded. Is it your position that it is 100 percent certain that these dinosuars weren't killed by Noahs flood?
Who cares what athiests think. They aren't real Americans.
I don't for a second believe that Noah loaded a pair of every living creature on a rubber dingy.
Me neither. It was wood. Fish weren't included. Others just marched aboard. Do you believe that we came from monkeys? If you believe that do you think it would be ok for Wbales to have sex with one?
OK, it was a wooden dingy. Were were the black folk quartered?
With the rest of the people.
And your evidence, sir....
will you please stop that stupidity!
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
My position is that it is possible for some species to be alive still. There have been sightings of some in the Congo and elsewhere. Nothing definite, but enough to make me curious. My "Official PSUSA Position" is that I am 100% sure that I dont know everything. What I am 100% sure of is that both evolutionists and creationists, as we know them, are wrong. .
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Give it two generations. Then most Americans will be atheists. Most are practically already. They don't go to church, don't act as though they really believe an all powerful god is watching. Most Americans are Christian in the sense that they have Christmas parties. Religion is dying in America. Your great great grandchild will be atheists .
If someone believes that we came from monkeys. It should be perfectly acceptable to have sex with them.
If you are correct. Then that will be there problem not mine.
Looking at you, it's obvious that someone did.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIn order to account for the depth of mud in an area where the animals could be trapped the team claimed the water level of the lake was lowering as a result of drought. That could account for the mud depth in a limited region close to the shore. But it is hard to imagine how, under normal conditions, so many animals could have become trapped together so suddenly in a small area of mud at the edge of a lake
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#3. To: Old Friend (#0)
#4. To: PSUSA (#2)
#5. To: lodwick (#3)
So, did no dinosaurs make it onto the ark?
#6. To: PSUSA (#2)
And they KNOW this came about because of Noahs' flood.... how?
#7. To: tom007 (#4)
Because God told them.
#8. To: Old Friend (#6)
#9. To: Old Friend (#7)
You lover of murderers and terrorists.
#10. To: All (#8)
#11. To: Old Friend (#7)
You lover of murderers and terrorists.
#12. To: PSUSA (#8)
No, it says that they died at the same time in the same place. It does not mean that it happened in the Biblical flood. The article makes that connection, and there is no connection other than these animals died at the same time and place.
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#14. To: Old Friend (#7)
You have nothing to add to the conversation.
#15. To: Old Friend (#12)
The flood is the ONLY Explanation for the global fossil record. Noahs flood was the only global flood.
#16. To: Old Friend (#5)
They probably died out after the flood.
#17. To: Old Friend (#13)
You have a terrorist pic for a tagline. A murderer
#18. To: lodwick (#3)
So, did no dinosaurs make it onto the ark?
#19. To: wbales. all (#18)
Ack. Did God hate dinosaurs? Why weren't they on the passenger list?
#20. To: lodwick (#19)
we've got rats, mice, roaches, spiders, termites, snakes, mosquitoes, ants...I could go on and on, but why no dinosaurs?
#21. To: Old Friend (#12)
#22. To: tom007 (#15)
Thanks for telling us the TRUTH.
#23. To: lodwick (#19)
Ack. Did God hate dinosaurs? Why weren't they on the passenger list?
#24. To: PSUSA (#21)
Prove these fossils are the result of a global flood
#25. To: wbales (#18)
Dinosaurs were killed in Noah's flood but none of them were invited and/or otherwise made it onto the Ark.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
They probably died out after the flood.
#27. To: Old Friend (#24)
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There is no other logical explanation. If not then tell us how.
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#29. To: PSUSA (#27)
But you will have a hard time convincing anyone that this article helps to prove that. .
#30. To: Old Friend (#26)
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
I don't for a second believe that Noah loaded a pair of every living creature on a rubber dingy.
#32. To: Old Friend (#31)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
OK, it was a wooden dingy. Were were the black folk quartered?
#34. To: Old Friend (#33)
#35. To: Old Friend (#31)
If you believe that do you think it would be ok for Wbales to have sex with one?
#36. To: Old Friend (#28)
#37. To: Old Friend (#29)
Who cares what athiests think. They aren't real Americans.
#38. To: christine (#35)
will you please stop that stupidity!
#39. To: Rhino369 (#37)
#40. To: Old Friend (#38)
If someone believes that we came from monkeys. It should be perfectly acceptable to have sex with them.
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