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Title: Judge Bans Religious Song From School
Source: UPI
URL Source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/04 ... rom-school/UPI-40081239944963/
Published: Apr 19, 2009
Author: UPI
Post Date: 2009-04-19 17:51:39 by Brian S
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Views: 2104
Comments: 79

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., April 17 (UPI) -- A federal judge has banned a Florida elementary school from having children sing a country song, "In God We Still Trust," at a school assembly.

The lyrics attack the principal of separation of church and state, U.S. District Judge Harvey Schlesinger said. He issued a preliminary injunction Wednesday against the Webster School in St. Augustine, The Jacksonville Times-Union reported.

While some religious songs can be sung in public schools, "In God We Still Trust" by Diamond Rio is "patently religious and proselytizing," the judge said.

He cited some of the lyrics: "There's no separation. ... We're one nation under Him ... Now there are those among us who want to push Him out and erase His name from everything this country is all about ... Now it's time for all believers to make our voices heard."

The parents of two Webster students filed the lawsuit in March, saying their children were being forced to endorse views they do not share.

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#22. To: Brian S, Jethro Tull, christine, lodwick, bluegrass, Rotara (#0) (Edited)

The lyrics attack the principal of separation of church and state, U.S. District Judge Harvey Schlesinger said.

I think the reporter means "principle". ("Principle" is defined as "judges think it's in the law just like the "law" that requires persons to file personal income tax returns")

As opposed to an actual written plank of any particular amendment. If it was going to be written anywhere it would be in the 1st amendment.

It isn't there.

There is a plank that binds govt down from interfering in religion, but not vice versa. OH, how that pisses those tyrants off!

And, in 1802 When President Jefferson wrote the Danbury, CT Baptists and said "There ought to be a wall of separation...." he was apparently wishing for something that did not exist under the law, and this was thirteen years after the Constitution took effect!

And, this mysterious wall appears with a vengeance in the media when Pat Robertson launches an exploratory for the presidency, but, it's unnecessary when VP candidate Joe Lieberman refuses to ride on The Sabbath because he's an observant practitioner of his religion. In that case the goodly Senator from CT is covered in hushed, quiet, respectful tones on news shows.

This "wall" may stop Christians from singing in schools, but it won't prevent tax dollars from being used to mount heat seeking missiles on the roofs of Jewish schools and synagogues.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-19   22:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

In God We Still Trust - Diamond Rio

I think I see an Alabama courthouse in this video. Coral Ridge ministries, tireless defender of judge Roy Moore, is Zionist, Noahide to the core. This is the kind of tripe that the evangelicals pushed on America after 9/11, all the while saying that our Judeo-Christian culture was obligated to cleanup terrorism in the Mideast to protect Israel.

The silly candelabras on Christmas where the creches used to be are justified by the same types, who claim that "religious freedom" is what brought the original colonists here. You know the ones who outlawed Quakers and burned witches.

And let's remember that without white, Christian American evangelicals, Israel would be a smoking ruin by now, or might never have come to exist in the first place.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-19   23:09:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And let's remember that without white, Christian American evangelicals, Israel would be a smoking ruin by now, or might never have come to exist in the first place.

LOL

Your grip on history is lacking.

Modern Israel is the creation of Godless-One-Worlders.

Rotara  posted on  2009-04-19   23:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Modern Israel is the creation of Godless-One-Worlders.

Americans were told that World War One and World War Two were to make the world safe for democracy, religious freedom, and especially in the Second World War, Jews. Christians did the lion share of the fighting and dying, and their churches told them God was on their side.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-19   23:27:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Modern Israel is the creation of Godless-One-Worlders.

Rotara  posted on  2009-04-19   23:28:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Without American interference in the two world wars, there would be no Israel. Troops were willing to go because their churches told them it was the right thing to do. Yes, secular people may have been involved, but the Rabbis talking up the wars made a big difference with the masses of religious Americans.

Without America's Christian religious beliefs, Zionism would be fairly helpless. We are the force behind them. Of course they're nuclear now, but they still need us. And they get our help through the Christian right.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-19   23:31:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Without American interference in the two world wars, there would be no Israel. Troops were willing to go because their churches told them it was the right thing to do.

What about Father Charles Coughlin?

His radio audience was larger than any single church congregation's and people were more aware of the propaganda than you realize, now that history has been sanitized and re-written.

The fact is Americans wanted no part of the war in Europe which is why baiting Japan (Germany's ally) into Pearl Harbor was necessary.

When Americans died (The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor) we had all the reason we'd ever need to fight in two wars and our men and boys damn sure weren't volunteering to "make the world safe for Israel."

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(Ezra) "Pound (another influential radio voice-HD) was also frequently visited by his protegé, a Library of Congress researcher named Eustace Mullins. Pound commissioned Mullins to write a book about the history of the Federal Reserve and to tell it like a detective story. Pound believed that the bankers in charge of the Federal Reserve and their associates in the Bank of England were responsible for getting the United States into both World Wars, in an effort to drive up government debt beyond sustainable levels (the national debt indeed rose astronomically because of the wars). The book, Secrets Of The Federal Reserve, charges that bankers hide behind the screen of the central banks and pull political strings to drive countries into the war, creating immense profits for themselves as the principal beneficiaries of wartime debt. Pound advocated an abandonment of the current system of money being created by private bankers. He favored government issued currency[20] with no interest to pay, preventing the need for an income tax and national debt, much like the system used by the Pennsylvania Colony from 1723 to 1764.[citation needed] Pound argued that his views on money aligned with those of Thomas Jefferson, as well as with Benjamin Franklin's Colonial Scrip."

And, have you forgotten Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-04-19   23:45:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The fact is Americans wanted no part of the war in Europe which is why baiting Japan (Germany's ally) into Pearl Harbor was necessary.

When Americans died (The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor) we had all the reason we'd ever need to fight in two wars and our men and boys damn sure weren't volunteering to "make the world safe for Israel."

Thank you.

I was going to see if Big Deasy possessed this knowledge; now he/she has no excuses ! ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2009-04-19   23:49:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#46. To: Rotara (#44)

I was going to see if Big Deasy possessed this knowledge; now he/she has no excuses ! ;-)

Go to Arlington sometime and look at all the crosses there. The same is true for our cemetery at Normandy. These people believed they were doing God's work. A strong appeal to Christian morals was essential in American recruiting efforts.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-19 23:52:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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