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Title: What became of War?
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Published: Apr 20, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-04-20 21:38:39 by Critter
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Views: 2659
Comments: 167

Ain't seen that shilly dimwit for a bit. Did he get canned for inferior shilliness?

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 126.

#1. To: Critter (#0)

he's licking his wounds at LP.

litus  posted on  2009-04-20   21:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

he's licking his wounds at LP.

He's going to wear his tongue out. He got lots of wounds here. hehehe

Critter  posted on  2009-04-20   22:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He's going to wear his tongue out. He got lots of wounds here. hehehe

lolol!!

O_I, FL, TT, and many others got him "but good".

fofl!

litus  posted on  2009-04-20   22:10:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

O_I, FL, TT, and many others got him "but good".

He didn't have a whole lot to say about those 660+ engineers and architects who question the 9/11 report. In fact, since it directly and absolutely proved his assertions wrong, it appears he put his tail between his legs and ran off.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   8:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He didn't have a whole lot to say about those 660+ engineers and architects who question the 9/11 report. In fact, since it directly and absolutely proved his assertions wrong, it appears he put his tail between his legs and ran off.

No, he hasn't, has he?!

litus  posted on  2009-04-21   10:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why would I overweight what less than 1% of the total of their combined fields have to say versus underweighting the OVERWHELMING majority... Gee 600 out of 100K...

war  posted on  2009-04-21   10:39:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why would I overweight what less than 1% of the total of their combined fields have to say versus underweighting the OVERWHELMING majority... Gee 600 out of 100K...

Got some firm numbers on that shillster, or are you just pulling that 100K figure out of your ass as usual?

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

I won't hold my breath.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   11:54:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

(war) Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

Support your claim war.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-21   12:46:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

How many enginners are there?

war  posted on  2009-04-21   13:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

How many enginners are there?

Proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-21   13:22:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The proof is on this thread, moron. There aren't even 600 of them who object to it...

Math is an issue with you?

war  posted on  2009-04-21   13:26:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The proof is on this thread, moron. There aren't even 600 of them who object to it...

Proof? What, your question as to how many engineers are there in the world is supposed to be PROOF? You don't have ANY proof of how many approve of the 9/11 Commission findings, you just made up a number and tried to say there is that many because there MIGHT be that many in the world, and since they haven't publically made a statement concerning their thoughts, well then by gosh they must agree with the official story. What a dishonest cretin you are.

As far as your comment that there aren't even 600 who object to the 9/11 Commission findings, you are a liar, as the proof of that has been posted to you at least twice here on 4um.

Here it is again so that you can't say it wasn't posted, AGAIN.

660+ Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   21:36:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As far as your comment that there aren't even 600 who object to the 9/11 Commission findings, you are a liar, as the proof of that has been posted to you at least twice here on 4um.

Here it is again so that you can't say it wasn't posted, AGAIN.

that makes three times; I saw the other two times you posted them to war (not including the different link I also posted to war concerning another architects and engineers group).

litus  posted on  2009-04-21   21:38:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Former Lurker is on bozo...is he still trying to post to me?

As far as your comment that there aren't even 600 who object to the 9/11 Commission findings, you are a liar, as the proof of that has been posted to you at least twice here on 4um.

Tell your fellow Moonie here that the comment referred to "engineers" and not "engineers and architects".

war  posted on  2009-04-22   9:55:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Former Lurker is on bozo...is he still trying to post to me?

What a brave thing to do little man, hide behind the filter yet continue to spread your venom and lies here on this forum. It's awfully funny you respond directly to me at times when you wish to launch insults and lies, yet totally ignore my posts when I post proof and facts which you claim doesn't exist.

You're just a little weasle playing a little game here. The game is called trolling.

Tell your fellow Moonie here that the comment referred to "engineers" and not "engineers and architects".

Somebody tell war that he is lying. In post 42 war responds to TwentyTwelves' post 41...

#41. To: war, Former_Lurker (#40)

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

How many enginners are there?

Proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

TwentyTwelve posted on 2009-04-21 13:22:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#42. To: TwentyTwelve (#41)

The proof is on this thread, moron. There aren't even 600 of them who object to it...

Math is an issue with you?

war posted on 2009-04-21 13:26:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

He didn't have a whole lot to say about those 660+ engineers and architects who question the 9/11 report. In fact, since it directly and absolutely proved his assertions wrong, it appears he put his tail between his legs and ran off.

It's obvious that war is playing a dishonest little game here. He asks people for a hard count of how many engineers and architects oppose the official 9/11 story (on another thread), is shown the answer twice on that thread, then claims that he never saw the information..

THEN he makes up a number, claims that there are that many who side with the government story, with ZERO proof of the number he fabricated and ZERO evidence that number of people would side with the government story.

Then he tries to play word games as to whether he was talking about apples, oranges, or apples and oranges.

It's obvious that war is enjoying trolling this forum.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-22   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Then he tries to play word games as to whether he was talking about apples, oranges, or apples and oranges.

It's obvious that war is enjoying trolling this forum.

Completely obvious.

litus  posted on  2009-04-22   13:31:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

IS FL trying to post to me still? He does know he's on filter?

war  posted on  2009-04-22   13:51:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

IS FL trying to post to me still? He does know he's on filter?

As FL pointed out, that only happens after you demand he post information to you...then, back he goes onto your filter.

litus  posted on  2009-04-22   13:54:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I last posted to him on 4/14 as I saw that post PRIOR to signing in...before that I hadn't posted to him in 2 weeks.

When I am signed in...I cannot see his posts...thanks to the "CHECK PING" function here...I don't have to wade through nonsense...so, if I am not signed in, I sign in first and then hit check pings...

Regardless, it doesn;t matter whether it's you, FL, Jonsie or whomever...you coninutally ignore reality...you raise faux or meaningless objections - as this latest one is...as if I wouldn't realize that a fringe group of architects and engineers who banded together for the sole purpose of being Moonbats and whom all of YOU Moonies cite here, banded together for the purpose of being...wait for it...Moonbats...

war  posted on  2009-04-22   14:00:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well Trollmeister you never cease to amuse. At this point between two or three threads you have managed to use virtually all of the Twenty Five Ways to Suppress The Truth: The Rules of Disinformation .

For any objective observer there can be little doubt that all you are doing is acting as a low paid, marginal IQ, government Trollbot. At no point have you added any substantive data which is not countered by multiple sources showing it to be false.

You cite "hunnerts of thousands" even gazillions of people who support the official lies and yet when it comes down to brass tacks you cite the same discredited sources over and over and over and over again. Of course mixed in with personal attacks and avoiding responding to any actual data presented.

You are engaging over and over and over and over again in disinformation tactics.

In your current post we have:

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

Example: 'Nothing you say makes any sense. Your logic is idiotic. Your facts nonexistent. Better go back to the drawing board and try again.'

Proper response: 'You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You evade the issues with your own form of nonsense while others, perhaps more intelligent than you pretend to be, have no trouble with the material. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 9 - play dumb)?'

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Not bad. You managed to include a total of 7 fallacies in one short paragraph. Way to go!

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-22   14:23:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not bad. You managed to include a total of 7 fallacies in one short paragraph. Way to go!

What's he trying to do is get as many of them as possible in one post.

: )

litus  posted on  2009-04-22   14:45:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think he did set a record. Heretofore the most I've seen, saving BAC, is 3 or 4.

He's definitely well trained in disinformation tactics.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-22   14:48:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think he did set a record. Heretofore the most I've seen, saving BAC, is 3 or 4.

KOOK! ROTFLOL! (There, thought you might be missing that). >(;^{]

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-22   15:18:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#147. To: James Deffenbach (#126)

I think he did set a record. Heretofore the most I've seen, saving BAC, is 3 or 4.

KOOK! ROTFLOL! (There, thought you might be missing that). >(;^{]

Thanks. It brings back uh, ummm, ah, warm memories. Yeah! That's it, warm memories. ;-)

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-04-23 00:54:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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