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Title: What became of War?
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Published: Apr 20, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-04-20 21:38:39 by Critter
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Ain't seen that shilly dimwit for a bit. Did he get canned for inferior shilliness?
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#127. To: James Deffenbach (#125)
That's right! He's on a bonus plan.... : )
it is hardly clear from where these people even GOT the dust. Verify this with a link to substantiate your claim. It it NOT in the Omission Report, nor is it in ANY of the NIST reports. It is clear where they got the dust, it is clearly stated in the paper. Five samples were collected on sight, the one sample that could not be confirmed was excluded from the paper although the material found within the sample was IDENTICAL to the included samples. Why don't you read the paper war? It's obvious you haven't read it while you continue to attempt to debunk it. READ IT. Here is an additional analysis: Three Features of the Red-Gray Chips A portion of Fig. 2, showing one of of the red-gray chips. ¼m means millionths of a meter. The length of the 100-¼m bar is therefore 1/10 of a millimeter -- about the width of a human hair. The three features of the red-gray chips highlighted here -- physical structure, chemical composition, and thermal behavior -- clearly establish that they are aluminothermic nano-composite pyrotechnics: advanced manufactured materials that may only have been invented as recently as the mid-1990s. Any one of these three features taken alone shows that the material is either a pyrotechnic or an advanced engineered material having no legitimate place in an office building. Any two of these features establishes that it is a high-tech pyrotechnic. That, combined with the material's abundance -- constituting perhaps 0.05 percent of the mass of the dust and therefore likely tens of tons within the buildings -- is clearly incompatable with prosaic sources, and fully consistent with the observations that the Towers were subjected to controlled demolitions. 1. Physical Structure The chips, whose structure is consistent from one sample to the next, are clearly an un-natural, manufactured material. The red layer is a nano-engineered composite, containing two types of nano- particles, each highly consistent in size and shape. The physical structure of the chips is revealed by microscopic visual inspection, most clearly using a scanning electron microscope. A thin red layer is supported by a gray layer of homogenous material. Zooming in on the red layer shows it to be composed of two different types of particles embedded in a porous matrix: thin plates typically hexagonal in shape, and faceted grains. Three facts about the red layer are: The particles are very small: the plates being only about 40 nanometers thick, and the grains are only about 100 nanometers in diameter. The particles are highly uniform in size and shape. The particles are intimately mixed in a highly consistent composition throughout the material. These are all features of a nano-engineered material. It is not possible that such a material was formed as a by-product of the destruction of the Twin Towers. 2. Chemical Composition The red layers contain abundant aluminum, iron, and oxygen, where the iron is associated with oxygen, and the aluminum is mostly in a pure, elemental, form. The relative quantities of aluminum, iron, and oxygen match those of the most common thermite formulation: Fe2O3 + 2 Al . 2 Al + Fe2O3 [4; Al2O3 + 2 Fe This is the chemical equation of the most common type of thermite reaction: Two atoms of aluminum react with a molecule of iron oxide to form a molecule of aluminum oxide and two atoms of iron. Because the aluminum holds the oxygen much more tightly than does the iron, the reaction releases a great deal of energy -- about three times as much per unit of weight as is released by conventional high explosives. The chemical composition of the chips is established by measuring the levels of elements in the chips' constituent parts. Using a scanning electron microscope equipped with X-ray energy-dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), it is determined that each of the two types of particles in the red layer, as well as the porous material holding them, has a specific elemental composition. Thus, the two types of nano-particles in the red layer contain the two ingredients of thermite: pure aluminum and iron oxide. Furthermore, the red- layer matrix in which the particles are embedded in a highly uniform manner is mostly silicon and oxygen -- similar in composition to known variants of nano- thermite optimized for high explosive pressure. Although these elements -- aluminum, iron, oxygen, and silicon -- were all abundant in building materials used in the Twin Towers, it is not possible that such materials milled themselves into fine powder and assembled themselves into a chemically optimized aluminothermic composite as a by-product of the destruction of the Twin Towers. 3. Thermal Behavior When the chips are heated to about 430ºC, they undergo a runaway chemical reaction producing temperatures of at least 1535ºC -- the melting point of iron. The residues produced by these reactions -- iron-rich spheres -- match those produced by igniting commercial thermite and particles found in WTC dust samples. The thermal behavior of the chips is analyzed using an instrument (a DSC) that measures the flow of heat into and out of the sample as its temperature is gradually increased. When the samples are elevated to about 430ºC, they ignite in a run-away rection that reaches at least 1535ºC. The fact that the reaction reaches those very high temperatures is evident from the reaction's residue of minute solidified iron-rich sphereoids -- residues that had clearly experienced temperatures above the melting point of iron to create molten droplets that became spherical under the influence of surface tension. The iron-rich spheroids formed by heating the chips in this manner match those found in abundance in all of the samples of WTC dust studied, and those produced by the reaction of commercial thermite, both in appearance and in chemical composition revealed by XEDS analysis. A measure of a pyrotechnics' performance is its energy density: how much energy can be packed in a given weight or volume. Estimates of the energy densities of chips ignited in the DSC shows them to be similar to those of conventional high explosives and conventional thermite. These estimtes include the weight of the inert gray-layer material, which may account for the range of energy densities of the four different chips. Whereas structural and chemical analysis of the chips shows that they were designed as some kind of pyrotechnic, thermal analysis shows that, despite their fragmented form and age, are still active pyrotechnics, and ones with impressive energy densities. Active Thermitic Material Discovered does not describe tests that might indicate the discovered material's power density. The fact that it ignites somewhere between 370ºC and 430ºC would seem to make it a delicate explosive, since an office fire could generate such temperatures. However, the material might have more than one reaction mode: It might be designed so that the more gradual heating by a fire causes it to deflagrate and appear to burn like a hydrocarbon material; whereas the small spot of extreme temperture provided by a micro-detonator causes it to detonate with a shockwave powerful enough to shatter objects several feet away. Although building rubble can contain flammable materials, it is not possible that legitimate materials in the Twin Towers or by-products formed by the buildings' destruction reacted to produce temperatures high enough to melt iron. Conclusion As this simplified summary of the findings of the paper Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe shows, the distinctive red-gray chips found consistently in dust samples from the destroyed Twin Towers are clearly an advanced engineered pyrotechnic material. It is not even remotely possible that the material could have been formed spontaneously through any random process such as the total destruction of the Twin Towers. Nor is it possible that the material was present in the Towers for some innocent reason. The chips are clearly the unexploded remains of a pyrotechnic material -- likely a high explosive -- that was present in the Twin Towers in large quantities.
Were you trying to be facetious? lolol!
Just think, one of these days he may figure out a way to get all 25 in one post.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Here's my source: Thermitic Pyrotechnics in the WTC Made Simple Three Points of Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe that Anyone Can Understand by Jim Hoffman Version 0.7, April 18, 2009 http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=88063
When that happens, I'll make a special "gif" post, in celebration!! fofl!
I am sure he is working on it feverishly and you will get to "reward" him soon.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. hehehehehe! Likely true. That means I'd better start searching asap.
Only 600 or so Protestant pastors in Germany stood up publically against Hitler and the nazis. The rest of the crowd got into line. While membership in the majority or the minority of opinion in respect of any given issue is not necessarily dispositive of the rightness of one's views, those in the minority are generally stronger in their convictions, particularly when their views are unpopular - moreso when there is nothing to gain by publishing unpopular views, and indeed when there is even something to lose.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Yeah...I can see why this man, and all the others on the list would be ignored by a JOKE COMMISSION!!!
Yeah...I can see why this man, and all the others on the list would be ignored by a JOKE COMMISSION!!! The real question is: Why is war protecting the "real" criminals?
Why is war protecting the "real" criminals? bump!!!
Two possibilities come to mind--the real criminals could be friends of his or they are paying him to obfuscate the issues. Not saying that there aren't other possibilities but when someone will argue that black is white and up is down, and that there are actually 27 in a dozen of anything you might suspect they are stupid or being paid. Or, that is what some other nitwit told him and he believed them because they were "smart."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I say paid. I could never be paid to lie.
Some people don't have to be paid, they do it to stay in practice.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. rofl! That was a funny.
Some people don't have to be paid, they do it to stay in practice. LOL
Some people don't have to be paid, they do it to stay in practice.
Thanks. I have a lucid interval now and then. >(;^{]
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Thank you.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. KOOK! ROTFLOL! (There, thought you might be missing that). >(;^{] Thanks. It brings back uh, ummm, ah, warm memories. Yeah! That's it, warm memories. ;-)
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=50539&Disp=93#C93 To: BeAChooser (#85) you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread? (have i told you lately that i loathe you?) christine posted on 2007-04-19 23:26:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
Poor BeachOoser. He don't git no respect. But then again, he don't deserve any. ;-)
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
(have i told you lately that i loathe you?) Oh the humanity! I thought I was the only one you loathed--er no, wait, wrong word. ahaha, carry on.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. You're being modest. The intervals are much more frequent than that. hehehe
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=50539&Disp=93#C93 To: BeAChooser (#85) you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread? (have i told you lately that i loathe you?) christine posted Memories
Can it be that it was all so simple then
Or has time rewritten every line
If we had the chance to do it all again, tell me, would we, could we
lolol!!!
You're being modest. The intervals are much more frequent than that. hehehe Stop it! Keep it up and he'll start giving himself "airs". "I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Thanks (I think).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. LOL!!!
*chuckling* I take the Fifth.
Only if I eat too many beans and cabbage. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Don't drink it all at one time. Give you a headache (or so I have heard).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. hehehe I didn't say I'll take a Fifth! : )
And only 4 out of 5 dentists chose Trident...
Don't drink it all at one time. Give you a headache (or so I have heard). I can vouch for it from personal experience. Good Scotch is intended to be drank in moderation - not an entire bottle at one "sitting". Couldn't hold water in my stomach until 3 in the afternoon the day after. NEVER AGAIN!
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Yeah, I have heard that you can get mighty sick from drinking too much liquor. >(;^{]
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I couldn't drink Scotch for about 3 years afterward. Thankfully I got over the malaise. ;-)
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Well, I never did learn to like Scotch. I was telling someone not long ago that if Scotch was all there was to drink I would most likely drink nothing but water, tea and Cokes.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Arrrgh! Sacrilege! Tis the sweet Mother's Milk of the Bonny Highlands (Usigbethea in Gaelic meaning "Mother's Milk").
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
LOL! Two of my best friends used to be Jim Beam and Jack Daniels.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Sorry...you've got another non-Scotch drinker here, O_I. I like wine or beer. "Hard stuff"? Mostly only gin. : ) (I plead guilty to light weight)
Maybe he gets a bonus when he gets more than five or six in one post.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#128. To: war (#124)
The chemicals that these people CLAIM = thermite have long been listed as chemicals in the WTC dust.
FURTHER READING: physical structure of the chips
FURTHER READING: chemical composition of the chips
FURTHER READING: thermal behavior of the chips
#129. To: war (#122)
SHOCKED!!!!
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#130. To: litus (#127)
Lord Acton
#131. To: war (#124)
#132. To: James Deffenbach (#130)
Just think, one of these days he may figure out a way to get all 25 in one post.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#133. To: litus (#132)
Lord Acton
#134. To: James Deffenbach (#133)
I am sure he is working on it feverishly and you will get to "reward" him soon.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#135. To: war (#66)
(Edited)
Based upon the silliness that I have seen out of you Moonbats, I really do not expect you to see how stupid it is to point to barely 600 out of 125THOUSAND...
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#136. To: TwentyTwelve, war (#84)
John M. Cole, Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist; FBI - Mr. Cole worked for 18 years in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division as an Intelligence Operations specialist, and was in charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Mr. Cole had knowledge of certain activities that directly related to the terror attacks on September 11, 2001. He notified the 9/11 Commission during its investigation, but never received a response.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#137. To: litus, FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#136)
John M. Cole, Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist; FBI - Mr. Cole worked for 18 years in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division as an Intelligence Operations specialist, and was in charge of FBI’s foreign intelligence investigations covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Mr. Cole had knowledge of certain activities that directly related to the terror attacks on September 11, 2001. He notified the 9/11 Commission during its investigation, but never received a response.
#138. To: TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#137)
The real question is:
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#139. To: TwentyTwelve (#137)
Why is war protecting the "real" criminals?
Lord Acton
#140. To: James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve (#139)
when someone will argue that black is white and up is down, and that there are actually 27 in a dozen of anything you might suspect they are stupid or being paid.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#141. To: litus (#140)
I say paid. I could never be paid to lie.
Lord Acton
#142. To: James Deffenbach (#141)
Some people don't have to be paid, they do it to stay in practice.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#143. To: James Deffenbach (#141)
I say paid. I could never be paid to lie.
#144. To: James Deffenbach (#141)
I say paid. I could never be paid to lie.
#145. To: litus (#142)
rofl! That was a funny.
Lord Acton
#146. To: TwentyTwelve (#144)
Lord Acton
#147. To: James Deffenbach (#126)
I think he did set a record. Heretofore the most I've seen, saving BAC, is 3 or 4.
#148. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach, litus, Critter. TwentyTwelve (#147)
memories~
#149. To: christine (#148)
#150. To: christine (#148)
you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?
Lord Acton
#151. To: James Deffenbach (#145)
I have a lucid interval now and then.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#152. To: christine, Original_Intent, James Deffenbach, Critter, TwentyTwelve (#148)
memories~
ABSOLUTELY!
Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were.
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#153. To: litus, James Deffenbach (#151)
I have a lucid interval now and then.
#154. To: litus (#151)
You're being modest. The intervals are much more frequent than that.
Lord Acton
#155. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#153)
Stop it! Keep it up and he'll start giving himself "airs".
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#156. To: James Deffenbach (#154)
Thanks (I think).
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#157. To: Original_Intent (#153)
Stop it! Keep it up and he'll start giving himself "airs".
Lord Acton
#158. To: litus (#156)
I take the Fifth.
Lord Acton
#159. To: James Deffenbach (#158)
(Edited)
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
#160. To: randge (#135)
Only 600 or so Protestant pastors in Germany stood up publically against Hitler and the nazis. The rest of the crowd got into line.
#161. To: James Deffenbach, litus (#158)
I take the Fifth.
#162. To: Original_Intent (#161)
Lord Acton
#163. To: James Deffenbach (#162)
#164. To: Original_Intent (#163)
Lord Acton
#165. To: James Deffenbach (#164)
#166. To: Original_Intent (#165)
Lord Acton
#167. To: Original_Intent, James Deffenbach (#161)
I can vouch for it from personal experience. Good Scotch is intended to be drank in moderation - not an entire bottle at one "sitting". Couldn't hold water in my stomach until 3 in the afternoon the day after. NEVER AGAIN!
~ Robert the Brus - "The Declaration of Arbroath"
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