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Title: What became of War?
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Published: Apr 20, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-04-20 21:38:39 by Critter
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Views: 2694
Comments: 167

Ain't seen that shilly dimwit for a bit. Did he get canned for inferior shilliness?

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#1. To: Critter (#0)

he's licking his wounds at LP.

litus  posted on  2009-04-20   21:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: litus (#1)

he's licking his wounds at LP.

He's going to wear his tongue out. He got lots of wounds here. hehehe

Critter  posted on  2009-04-20   22:08:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Critter, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, TwentyTwelve (#2)

He's going to wear his tongue out. He got lots of wounds here. hehehe

lolol!!

O_I, FL, TT, and many others got him "but good".

fofl!

litus  posted on  2009-04-20   22:10:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: litus, Critter, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#3)

O_I, FL, TT, and many others got him "but good".

He didn't have a whole lot to say about those 660+ engineers and architects who question the 9/11 report. In fact, since it directly and absolutely proved his assertions wrong, it appears he put his tail between his legs and ran off.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   8:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker, Critter, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#17)

He didn't have a whole lot to say about those 660+ engineers and architects who question the 9/11 report. In fact, since it directly and absolutely proved his assertions wrong, it appears he put his tail between his legs and ran off.

No, he hasn't, has he?!

litus  posted on  2009-04-21   10:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: litus (#32)

Why would I overweight what less than 1% of the total of their combined fields have to say versus underweighting the OVERWHELMING majority... Gee 600 out of 100K...

war  posted on  2009-04-21   10:39:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war, litus (#33)

Why would I overweight what less than 1% of the total of their combined fields have to say versus underweighting the OVERWHELMING majority... Gee 600 out of 100K...

Got some firm numbers on that shillster, or are you just pulling that 100K figure out of your ass as usual?

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

I won't hold my breath.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   11:54:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war, FormerLurker, litus (#36)

(war) Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

Support your claim war.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-21   12:46:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TwentyTwelve (#38)

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

How many enginners are there?

war  posted on  2009-04-21   13:20:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war, Former_Lurker (#40)

Post some proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

How many enginners are there?

Proof that there are 100K engineers and architects who approve of the 9/11 Commission's findings.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-21   13:22:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TwentyTwelve (#41)

The proof is on this thread, moron. There aren't even 600 of them who object to it...

Math is an issue with you?

war  posted on  2009-04-21   13:26:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war, TwentyTwelve, litus, Original_Intent, Fred Mertz, RickyJ, randge (#42)

The proof is on this thread, moron. There aren't even 600 of them who object to it...

Proof? What, your question as to how many engineers are there in the world is supposed to be PROOF? You don't have ANY proof of how many approve of the 9/11 Commission findings, you just made up a number and tried to say there is that many because there MIGHT be that many in the world, and since they haven't publically made a statement concerning their thoughts, well then by gosh they must agree with the official story. What a dishonest cretin you are.

As far as your comment that there aren't even 600 who object to the 9/11 Commission findings, you are a liar, as the proof of that has been posted to you at least twice here on 4um.

Here it is again so that you can't say it wasn't posted, AGAIN.

660+ Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-04-21   21:36:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#56. To: FormerLurker, war, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Fred Mertz, RickyJ, randge (#54)

As far as your comment that there aren't even 600 who object to the 9/11 Commission findings, you are a liar, as the proof of that has been posted to you at least twice here on 4um.

Here it is again so that you can't say it wasn't posted, AGAIN.

that makes three times; I saw the other two times you posted them to war (not including the different link I also posted to war concerning another architects and engineers group).

litus  posted on  2009-04-21 21:38:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker, Litus, Original_Intent (#54)

Here it is again so that you can't say it wasn't posted, AGAIN.

660+ Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

War just keeps ignoring this!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-04-21 21:45:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker, war, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, Fred Mertz, RickyJ (#54)

"What we are faced with is a lie of such proportions that even to suggest it makes one subject to ridicule and scorn. Who could have done such a terrible thing? Certainly not our government or military. Rogue elements in the intelligence agencies? I have no idea.

But I do know that the official explanation doesn't hold water. An open, honest re-opening of the case is in order. A near majority of Americans agrees with this view. Let us keep pressing for an honest investigation."

- David A. Johnson

Just off the top of the list: 660+ Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Richard Gage, AIA, Architect – Member, American Institute of Architects. A practicing Architect for 20 years who has worked on most types of building construction including numerous fire-proofed steel-framed buildings. Founding member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Speech at Sonoma State University 4/20/07:

"Another 2006 poll by Scripps Howard, Ohio University, which found that a shocking 16% believe that the World Trade Center's Twin Towers were brought down by explosives. Unfortunately, my research has also concluded that this is true. Tonight I will present to you the very clear evidence that all three World Trade Center high-rise buildings, the Twin Towers and Building 7 were destroyed not by fire as our government has told us, but by controlled demolition with explosives." http://ae911truth.org/aboutus.php

David A. Johnson, B.Arch, MCP (City Planning), PhD (Regional Planning), F.AICP – Internationally recognized architect and city and regional planner. Professor Emeritus, Department of Urban and Regional Planning, University of Tennessee. Former Professor and Chair of the Planning Departments at Syracuse University and Ball State University. Elected Fellow, American Institute of Certified Planners (2004). Past President of the Fulbright Association of the United States. Recipient of five Fulbright Scholarships for continued education in Cyprus, India, Thailand, and the Soviet Union. Directed educational projects in Brazil and Portugal. Active in reconstruction efforts in Bosnia and bicommunal peace-making in Cyprus. Former professional planner on the staffs of the Washington National Capital Planning Commission and the Regional Plan Association of New York. Former editorial board member of the Journal of the American Planning Association. Author of numerous journal articles on urban and regional planning theory and history. Author of Planning the Great Metropolis (1996). Co-author of The TVA Regional Planning and Development Program (2005). Contributing author to Two Centuries of American Planning (1988). Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"I was dubious of the official explanations from the outset. You see, as a professional city planner in New York, I knew those buildings and their design. I attended and participated in the hearings at the New York City Hall when the buildings were first proposed. I argued for the buildings on the basis that the interior core represented a way of internalizing the cost of mass transit, which in our system is almost impossible to finance through public bond issues.

So I was well aware of the strength of the core with its steel columns, surrounding the elevators, and stairwells. I should also mention that with a degree in architecture and instruction in steel design (my Yale professor had worked on the Empire State Building) I was and am no novice in structural design.

When I saw the rapid collapse of the towers, I knew that they could not come down the way they did without explosives and the severing of core columns at the base. The spewing of debris from the towers where the planes entered also could not have occurred simply with just a structural collapse. Something else was happening to make this occur.

Moreover, the symmetrical collapse is strong evidence of a controlled demolition. A building falling from asymmetrical structural failure would not collapse so neatly, nor so rapidly, as you have pointed out.

What we are faced with is a lie of such proportions that even to suggest it makes one subject to ridicule and scorn. Who could have done such a terrible thing? Certainly not our government or military. Rogue elements in the intelligence agencies? I have no idea.

But I do know that the official explanation doesn't hold water. An open, honest re-opening of the case is in order. A near majority of Americans agrees with this view. Let us keep pressing for an honest investigation." http://www.ae911truth.org

H. Theodore Elden, Jr., B.Arch, AIA – Practicing licensed architect in West Virginia for over 25 years. Now retired. Graduate of Carnegie Mellon University. Member, American Institute of Architects, West Virginia Chapter. Appointed Member of West Virginia State Board of Architects. Former Member, National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB), and Member, National Committee, Intern Development Program for Architects (IDP). Professional photographer. Letter to American Institute of Architects 11/26/06:

"The primary duty of registered professionals is to protect the public safety. Professionals' intelligence, knowledge and experience provide a delicate connection between science and fact. ...

9-11 was a tragic event for our country, quickly “solved” by our government and propagated by our media, leading our country into fear, anguish, anger, war and unrestrained spending.

Have we, as building professionals, been hoodwinked? Who should better understand the collapse of the World Trade Towers than those in our profession, possibly with the consultation of demolition experts?

As I and millions have reviewed the events of that day, it seems much of the cover story is not true and impossible. As the nation is confused on the reality of that day, have we been making bad decisions ever since?

My web site collects salient information that isolates the demise of the World Trade Towers – linking many experienced, dedicated and articulate technical analysis that show clearly that the World Trade Towers were destroyed by internal explosives and not "fires from the airlines". ...

After hundreds of hours of research, and thousands of dollars purchasing materials and information, this letter outlines my most salient, articulate examples of things that architects should investigate. If I err slightly in any single item, that does not discount this letter. On the contrary, even if only part of these accusations are true, they should be investigated." http://www.abodia.com/911

randge  posted on  2009-04-21 21:58:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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