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Title: Shepherd Smith: We are America! We don't fucking torture!
Source: YouTube
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Published: Apr 22, 2009
Author: Fox
Post Date: 2009-04-22 22:25:12 by randge
Keywords: Shepherd Smitth, Torture, Memos, F-word
Views: 1171
Comments: 51


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#1. To: randge (#0) (Edited)

Nice act.

Their ratings must being going down for such a performance.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with getting info from your enemy if it will save lives even if it involves torture. Would you rather a nuke go off in a city and kill millions or one guy to be tortured into spilling the beans? The problem is the government is our enemy, and the only info they want is who might be trying to shut them down.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-22   22:33:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ (#1) (Edited)

The pathological case always presents the poorest paramters for decision making.

And torture yields poor intelligence.

This country got through WWII without it and German and British intelligence didn't resort to using it on each other's bomber crews held prisoner.

I imagine on that day when the lives of everyone in Houston or New York depends on the words of one prisoner, they'll pull the guy's arms out of their sockets, save the day, and be pardoned for it.

Generally, it's cruel and unusual, and contravenes our sense of civilized behavior and values. It demeans our dignity and reputation as a nation. Not least of all, it is also corrosive of the souls of men who have to do it.

No, we don't fucking torture.

randge  posted on  2009-04-22   22:46:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4) (Edited)

No, we don't fucking torture.

We don't, but our government does and will continue to do so.

People are evil, torture will never go away.

BTW, it looked liked Smith was about to torture the guy sitting next to him for arguing the merits of torture. Not the way to make the point. Killing innocent people in Iraq is a form of torture, but you don't see Smith going bonkers over that. Nope, that is not even reported on Fox News.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-04-22   23:03:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#5)

People are evil, torture will never go away.

You're right.

In fact, no crimes that we know of will just go away.

I think the question here, Ricky, is whether we continue to carry out torture as a matter of policy. That's a distinction with a difference.

randge  posted on  2009-04-22   23:07:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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