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Title: Alex Jones explains the attack on the USS Liberty
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URL Source: http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Alex-Jones-summary.html
Published: Apr 27, 2009
Author: erichufschmid
Post Date: 2009-04-27 21:01:51 by Itistoolate
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Jones explains the attack on the USS Liberty One of his recent videos that try to make us fearful of the police and military, Terror Storm, explains who was behind the attack on the USS Liberty and other crimes. Please listen to this audio excerpt in which he summarizes the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967:
"In a nutshell, this is what happened. President Johnson had personal control over the ship, parked it in the Mediterranean, made a backroom deal with Israel to attack it, with an order to kill all aboard. Then the attack on the ship was to be blamed on Egypt, the US would enter the war, and take over the entire Middle East."
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)
In a nutshell, this is what happened. Israel unilaterally decided to attack the USS Liberty sending her to the bottom with all hands to get the US to blame Egypt. Despite massive damage to the ship's communications (which was the initial target of the Israeli attack), Liberty crew managed to radio Sixth Fleet HQ to report that it had been and was being attacked by the IDF. Only then was the backroom deal made: President Johnson would present as fact the Israeli claim of mistaken identity and Israel wouldn't rat out Johnson for his involvement in and cover-up of JFK's murder.
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I am sure the surviving crew of the USS Liberty appreciate your interest and sympathy.
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Whatever you do, do NOT watch that video in post #3. It really will give you a headache. Wait...maybe it won't.
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2big hasn't posted in 7 days, just lays waiting to post a pic like a good little freeper when confronted with the truth.
Just oy.....
I don't think the focus of this post was intended to be the USS Liberty.
Only then was the backroom deal made: President Johnson would present as fact the Israeli claim of mistaken identity and Israel wouldn't rat out Johnson for his involvement in and cover-up of JFK's murder. I agree with all of that except the threat to Johnson. I believe the threat wasn't his involvement in the cover up of JFK's murder, but rather the assassination attempt that would be made on him if he didn't do as they say, just like they did to JFK. Jones is an idiot if he thinks Johnson was behind this. He has no proof whatsoever, but that doesn't stop him from repeating pure speculation. If the USA wanted a ship to be sunk for a false flag we sure the heck wouldn't ask a foreign nation to do it. No, we would do it ourselves and blame a foreign nation. That's how false flags are done. Jones should know that. That is exactly how the 9/11 false flag was done, except no nation was blamed, just some mysterious boogie men who worship Allah.
God is always good!
From "USS Liberty, the rest of the story Reader comment on article: The Soviets' Six-Day War in response to reader comment: USS Liberty?" at www.danielpipes.org/comments/95480 Word is going out that the attack was intentional but somehow justified. I find this fascinating. Pro-Israeli sources are now spreading the word that the NSA was somehow privy to information it shouldn't have had, so the U.S.S. Liberty became a fair target of the IDF. I would remind readers that Daniel Pipes is a pro-Israel NeoCon, and although this is an apparent "follow up" comment to another post, it remains on his site.
Whenever I read the words "USS Liberty", I focus on that. Always have, always will. I really don't care about Alex Jones but I am coming to understand that he is soft on Israel and Zionists. If so, he sucks.
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I would not discount that AT ALL. Perhaps both?
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It has also been reported that the Liberty intercepted Israel's plans to massively escalate its attack to the north.
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'The USS Liberty': America's Most Shameful Secret by Eric S. Margolis NEW YORK – On the fourth day of the 1967 Arab Israeli War, the intelligence ship 'USS Liberty' was steaming slowly in international waters, 14 miles off the Sinai Peninsula. Israeli armored forces were racing deep into Sinai in hot pursuit of the retreating Egyptian army. 'Liberty,' a World War II freighter, had been converted into an intelligence vessel by the top-secret US National Security Agency, and packed with the latest signals and electronic interception equipment. The ship bristled with antennas and electronic 'ears' including TRSSCOMM, a system that delivered real- time intercepts to Washington by bouncing a stream of microwaves off the moon. 'Liberty' had been rushed to Sinai to monitor communications of the belligerents in the Third Arab Israeli War: Israel and her foes, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. At 0800 hrs, 8 June, 1967, eight Israeli recon flights flew over 'Liberty,' which was flying a large American flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flying Israeli Mystere and Mirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked the American vessel with rockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20 minutes, concentrating on the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The 'Liberty' was left afire, listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, a hundred seriously wounded, including the captain, Commander William McGonagle. At 1424 hrs, three Israeli torpedo boats attacked, raking the burning 'Liberty' with 20mm and 40mm shells. At 1431hrs an Israeli torpedo hit the 'Liberty' midship, precisely where the signals intelligence systems were located. Twenty- five more Americans died. Israeli gunboats circled the wounded 'Liberty,' firing at crewmen trying to fight the fires. At 1515, the crew were ordered to abandon ship. The Israeli warships closed and poured machine gun fire into the crowded life rafts, sinking two. As American sailors were being massacred in cold blood, a rescue mission by US Sixth Fleet carrier aircraft was mysteriously aborted on orders from the White House. An hour after the attack, Israeli warships and planes returned. Commander McGonagle gave the order. 'prepare to repel borders.' But the Israelis, probably fearful of intervention by the US Sixth Fleet, departed. 'Liberty' was left shattered but still defiant, her flag flying. The Israeli attacks killed 34 US seamen and wounded 171 out of a crew of 297, the worst loss of American naval personnel from hostile action since World War II. Less than an hour after the attack, Israel told Washington its forces had committed a 'tragic error.' Later, Israel claimed it had mistaken 'Liberty' for an ancient Egyptian horse transport. US Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, and Joint Chiefs of Staff head, Admiral Thomas Moorer, insisted the Israeli attack was deliberate and designed to sink 'Liberty.' So did three CIA reports; one asserted Israel's Defense Minister, Gen. Moshe Dayan, had personally ordered the attack. In contrast to American outrage over North Korea's assault on the intelligence ship 'Pueblo,' Iraq's mistaken missile strike on the USS 'Stark,' last fall's bombing of the USS 'Cole' in Aden, and the recent US-China air incident, the savaging of 'Liberty' was quickly hushed up by President Lyndon Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. The White House and Congress immediately accepted Israel's explanation and let the matter drop. Israel later paid a token reparation of US $6 million. There were reports two Israeli pilots who had refused to attack 'Liberty' were jailed for 18 years. Surviving 'Liberty' crew members would not be silenced. They kept demanding an open inquiry and tried to tell their story of deliberate attack to the media. Israel's government worked behind the scenes to thwart these efforts, going so far as having American pro-Israel groups accuse 'Liberty's' survivors of being 'anti-Semites' and 'Israel-haters.' Major TV networks cancelled interviews with the crew. A book about the 'Liberty' by crewman James Ennes' was dropped from distribution. The Israel lobby branded him 'an Arab propagandist.' The attack on 'Liberty' was fading into obscurity until last week, when intelligence expert James Bamford came out with Body of Secrets, his latest book about the National Security Agency. In a stunning revelation, Bamford writes that unknown to Israel, a US Navy EC-121 intelligence aircraft was flying high overhead the 'Liberty,' electronically recorded the attack. The US aircraft crew provides evidence that the Israeli pilots knew full well that they were attacking a US Navy ship flying the American flag. Why did Israel try to sink a naval vessel of its benefactor and ally? Most likely because 'Liberty's' intercepts flatly contradicted Israel's claim, made at the war's beginning on 5 June, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and that Israel's massive air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation. In fact, Israel began the war by a devastating, Pearl-Harbor style surprise attack that caught the Arabs in bed and destroyed their entire air forces. Israel was also preparing to attack Syria to seize its strategic Golan Heights. Washington warned Israel not to invade Syria, which had remained inactive while Israel fought Egypt. Bamford says Israel's offensive against Syria was abruptly postponed when 'Liberty' appeared off Sinai, then launched once it was knocked out of action. Israel's claim that Syria had attacked it could have been disproved by 'Liberty.' Most significant, 'Liberty's' intercepts may have shown that Israel seized upon sharply rising Arab-Israeli tensions in May-June 1967 to launch a long-planned war to invade and annex the West Bank, Jerusalem, Golan and Sinai. Far more shocking was Washington's response. Writes Bamford: 'Despite the overwhelming evidence that Israel attacked the ship and killed American servicemen deliberately, the Johnson Administration and Congress covered up the entire incident.' Why? Domestic politics. Johnson, a man never noted for high moral values, preferred to cover up the attack rather than anger a key constituency and major financial backer of the Democratic Party. Congress was even less eager to touch this 'third rail' issue. Commander McGonagle was quietly awarded the Medal of Honor for his and his men's heroism – not in the White House, as is usual, but in an obscure ceremony at the Washington Navy Yard. Crew member's graves were inscribed, 'died in the Eastern Mediterranean..' as if they had be killed by disease, rather than hostile action. A member of President Johnson's staff believed there was a more complex reason for the cover-up: Johnson offered Jewish liberals unconditional backing of Israel, and a cover-up of the 'Liberty' attack, in exchange for the liberal toning down their strident criticism of his policies in the then raging Vietnam War. Israel, which claims it fought a war of self defense in 1967 and had no prior territorial ambitions, will be much displeased by Bamford's revelations. Those who believe Israel illegally occupies the West Bank and Golan will be emboldened. Much more important, the US government's long, disgraceful cover-up of the premeditated attack on 'Liberty' has now burst into the open and demands full- scale investigation. After 34 years, the voices of 'Liberty's' dead and wounded seamen must finally be heard. May 2, 2001 Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2001 Eric Margolis [send him mail] is foreign correspondent for the Toronto Sun. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
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Well now isn't that just f-ing hilarious. The next year, they probably got an extra $100 Million for that inconvenience.
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It may be that Jones' is espousing his version in an attempt to ameliorate Israeli involvement. However and even under Jones' scenario, that ALONE and in and of itself is sufficient to hate Israel forever. And this little piece of shit country has been and continues to receive $ Billions in American taxpayer cash -- apparently it shall do so in perpetuity. Israel has the ability to write itself checks on the American treasury. Hell, its agents and/or dual citizens control the US Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Reserve, America's economy. And forget the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Bohemian Grove, the Rothschilds, the NWO, amorphous and ephemeral secret and shawdowy outfits, et. al. -- the clear and present danger and threat to America and Americans has been and is now operating right under our noses--it is my tagline.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
Mental case.
Believe me, Alex Jones is not to big to fail despite his huge size.
God is always good!
According to Magician (an Israeli shill on other websites) Israel had spies in Egypt or some other Arab communication centers and the Arabs were receiving intel from the US, presumably from USS Liberty intercepts. Magician likes that explanation best because it supports his belief that Israel was actually justified in attacking a "fair weather ally" that was betraying them in war time. There were reportedly no Hebrew speaking operatives aboard the Liberty and that would not have been the case if their mission was to assist Arabs with real time intel behind Israel's back. If anything, the very fact that there were no Hebrew speakers on board was probably all the reason the ultra paranoid Israelis needed to sink the ship "as a precaution." I'd bet that Israel assumed then (and now) that all Hebrew speakers are "assets" who will spy for the shitty little criminal state. And, because NSA is run by the most savvy people in the whole intel racket, they may have assumed that, too. So, any intercepts in Hebrew could have been recorded and transmitted to NSA and translated for our use, or (according to the pathologically paranoid) translated and sent on to whoever and Israel couldn't do a damn thing about it but to try and sink the ship.
I bet not. At least not in the way you probably meant it. I think he knows exactly what he is doing. He's not very successful at it anymore because more people are seeing thru the disinfo. He still has his hardcore worshippers though, and nothing will keep them from bowing before his magnificent presence... .
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
Many still dont know about this. My brother didnt know about it until I showed him. It is being kept secret from those in school. .
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis. Click for Privacy and Preparedness files
He along w/the fraud who runs TOS are two of the reasons I bolted for more honest pastures.
He claims to be a child refugee from Eastern Bloc commieism and that's his excuse for opposing "socialist Democrats". But, it was pretty apparent that he supported the neocon Republicans because of their pro-Israel tunnel vision while ignoring their massive financial crimes, and his dishonesty was more than equal to the task of defending them.
Israel was also preparing to attack Syria to seize its strategic Golan Heights. Washington warned Israel not to invade Syria, which had remained inactive while Israel fought Egypt. Bamford says Israel's offensive against Syria was abruptly postponed when 'Liberty' appeared off Sinai, then launched once it was knocked out of action. Israel's claim that Syria had attacked it could have been disproved by 'Liberty.' Most significant, 'Liberty's' intercepts may have shown that Israel seized upon sharply rising Arab-Israeli tensions in May-June 1967 to launch a long-planned war to invade and annex the West Bank, Jerusalem, Golan and Sinai. I suspect, the more evidence comes out, that things were a little more convoluted than the Israel haters/lovers would like to paint. Both sides want to paint it as a simple scenario of Israel good/bad without accepting that our government, Johnson, was criminal enough to sacrifice a ship and its crew for a geopolitical advantage for his globalist controllers. So, I suspect elements of both scenarios are correct, but the evidence increasingly suggests that Johnson did know in advance, and that he was already prepared to withdraw the air cover for the Liberty to insure it was sunk with all hands. Israel did not have enough access, at that time, to be able to get to Johnson within minutes to order the air cover back. Therefore he likely knew in advance and was prepared to do what was necessary to insure the Op worked up to the point where it would become obvious that is what he was doing. He did maintain enough plausible deniability, and had a compliant press, to do the later whitewash by ordering the "accident" verdict.
"I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#3. To: wbales (#2)
#4. To: 2big2fail (#1)
...not this shit again.
#5. To: 2big2fail (#1)
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#6. To: wbales, Jethro Tull (#4)
#7. To: Itistoolate (#6)
#8. To: wbales (#5)
#9. To: wbales (#2)
(Edited)
In a nutshell, this is what happened. Israel unilaterally decided to attack the USS Liberty sending her to the bottom with all hands to get the US to blame Egypt. Despite massive damage to the ship's communications (which was the initial target of the Israeli attack), Liberty crew managed to radio Sixth Fleet HQ to report that it had been and was being attacked by the IDF.
#10. To: Itistoolate, Jethro Tull, wbales (#0)
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Anyway, the reason Liberty was attacked is that IDF thought her crew had sigint intercepts of IDF radio chatter that indicated the IDF was executing Egyptian prisoners. Which the IDF was doing, in fact. The war was moving too fast to bother with handling POWs at that particular phase. This action was repeated again during the most brutal and desperate days of the Yom Kippur War in 1973. IDF units were summarily executing every Egyptian and Syrian they encountered. You must understand that Israel was very nearly annihilated both in '67 and '73. It was SOP to execute POWs until we had the upper hand and then to hold them for the eventual prisoner exchanges. War is a brutal and ugly affair and when your back is against the sea, you do what you must to survive and defeat an enemy that out-guns you by an order of magnitude. — Submitted by Mike DeCastro (United States), May 30, 2007 at 17:16
#11. To: 2big2fail (#8)
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I don't think the focus of this post was intended to be the USS Liberty
#12. To: RickyJ (#9)
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I believe the threat wasn't his involvement in the cover up of JFK's murder, but rather the assassination attempt that would be made on him if he didn't do as they say, just like they did to JFK.
#13. To: Deasy (#10)
Anyway, the reason Liberty was attacked is that IDF thought her crew had sigint intercepts of IDF radio chatter that indicated the IDF was executing Egyptian prisoners.
#14. To: wbales (#13)
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#15. To: Itistoolate (#0)
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#16. To: randge (#14)
Israel later paid a token reparation of US $6 million.
#17. To: bush_is_a_moonie, Itistoolate, randge, Deasy, Jethro Tull, 2big2fail (#15)
Alex Jones Exposed!
#18. To: Itistoolate (#0)
Alex Jones
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#19. To: 2big2fail (#8)
#20. To: Itistoolate, James Deffenbach, 2big2fail, wbales, Jethro Tull, lodwick (#0)
President Johnson had personal control over the ship, parked it in the Mediterranean, made a backroom deal with Israel to attack it, with an order to kill all aboard. Then the attack on the ship was to be blamed on Egypt, the US would enter the war, and take over the entire Middle East."
#21. To: Turtle (#18)
Mental case.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#22. To: Itistoolate (#0)
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
According to Magician (an Israeli shill on other websites) Israel had spies in Egypt or some other Arab communication centers and the Arabs were receiving intel from the US, presumably from USS Liberty intercepts.
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
He along w/the fraud who runs TOS are two of the reasons I bolted for more honest pastures.
#25. To: randge (#14)
Why did Israel try to sink a naval vessel of its benefactor and ally? Most likely because 'Liberty's' intercepts flatly contradicted Israel's claim, made at the war's beginning on 5 June, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and that Israel's massive air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation. In fact, Israel began the war by a devastating, Pearl-Harbor style surprise attack that caught the Arabs in bed and destroyed their entire air forces.
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