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Title: Specter says he's switching from GOP to Democrats - Obama: "Thrilled to have you."
Source: BreitBart
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97RJ5B01&show_article=1
Published: Apr 28, 2009
Author: By DAVID ESPO
Post Date: 2009-04-28 13:03:44 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
Keywords: None
Views: 4237
Comments: 124

Specter says he's switching from GOP to Democrats

Apr 28 12:45 PM US/Eastern
By DAVID ESPO
AP Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON (AP) - Veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter disclosed plans Tuesday to switch parties, a move intended to boost his chances of winning re-election next year that will also push Democrats closer to a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.

"I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans," Specter said in a statement posted on a Web site devoted to Pennsylvania politics and confirmed by his office. Several Senate officials said a formal announcement could come later in the day or Wednesday.

Specter, 79 and in his fifth term, is one of a handful of Republican moderates remaining in Congress in a party now dominated by conservatives. Several officials said the White House as well as leaders in both parties had been involved in discussions leading to his move.

With Specter, Democrats would have 59 Senate seats. Al Franken is ahead in a marathon recount in Minnesota, and if he ultimately wins his race against Republican Norm Coleman, he would become the party's 60th vote. That is the number needed to overcome a filibuster.

Specter faced an extraordinarily difficult re-election challenge in his home state in 2010, having first to confront a challenge from his right in the Republican primary before pivoting to a general election campaign against a Democrat.

"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate," he said in the statement.

"I don't have to say anything to them. They said it to me," Specter said, when asked in a Capitol corridor about abandoning the GOP.

A senior White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because no announcement has yet been made, said at 10:25 a.m. EDT Tuesday President Barack Obama was handed a note while in the Oval Office during his daily economic briefing. The note said: "Specter is announcing he is changing parties." At 10:32, Obama reached Specter by phone and told him "you have my full support" and that the Democratic Party is "thrilled to have you."

Specter had publicly acknowledged that to win in 2010, he would need thousands of Pennsylvania voters who switched from Republican to Democrat last year to vote for Obama to flip back to the GOP to cast ballots for him.

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#69. To: HOUNDDAWG, farmfriend (#62)

ut, the "magic bullet" passed through Kennedy, made a right turn and a left, (performing an "S curve maneuver" if you will) in the airspace between JFK and TX Gov. John Connally, and then proceeded to straighten out its slightly downward trajectory to end up in Connally's forearm.

I've shot animals in the brain at close range with high powered firearms and their head has never violated Newton's physics and came towards the the firearm and I have never seen any blast of brain matter coming in the "rocket effect" out of the penetration.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-04-29   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: James Deffenbach (#66)

Oh no, you are much more than a red-necked Republican; you are a pig-headed dolt unworthy of much more than a casual smile on the street from a passerby whom may choose to toss a dime in your beggar cup.

I really wish you could drop this incessant and annoying bullying about some other poster. Really, you are becoming irritating and diminishing the content of otherwise worthy thread content.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-29   19:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: James Deffenbach, litus, PSUSA (#52)

Terri Schiavo was murdered by her so-called "husband" and the "judge" who acted as his accomplice.

People need to prioritize. In the grand scheme of things, this was entirely insignificant. It was only advanced medical techniques that permitted Terri to go on living, such as antibiotics and tubal feedings, things that weren't available to Americans before the 20th century. But it made great "Christian right" drama.

Again, we had illegal immigration. We had NAFTA. We had the SPP being drawn up. We had massive tyranny on paper. We had the NSA spying on everything we did. In fact, the FBI knew about General Olsen's planned adventure. Where were conservative Christians on that issue? Arguing until they were blue in the face about Terri's soul.

This is why I've given up on the Christian right. You know, the ones (unlike the two of you) who would sell our souls for Israel.

The Terri Schiavo case was the ultimate diversion, and it truly worked. A hunk of flesh became more important than liberty, and stayed that way for months on end.

This is why we're entrapped by our government. All it takes is the flu or a right to life case to derail any focus on freedom that the majority of "freedom lovers" could muster.

Between the rapture nutters, the prophecy do-nothings, the one issue pro-lifers and marriage defense types, there's really an issue for just about any Christian to go off the deep end with.

Meanwhile the banks own us. The intelligence industrial complex owns us. We have no absolute right to our own earnings, properties, and businesses. Our national sovereignty is in tatters. Firearms and their manufacture and sales are regulated. Information is controlled by a few owners of the media, who by the way played up the Terri Schiavo case to the maximum effect. Israel is still considered an ally.

And people like Alex Jones, who should be expressing leadership, are permitting his listeners and readers to think the flu is part of a depopulation agenda, and wants us all to panic.

Disgusting, but predictable.

Go ahead and change the world, after the rapture, after saving Terri's life, and after panicking due to the flu.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   19:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#70)

Buck, if I still talked the way I used to I might tell you to ESAD or FOAD but I almost never say those things anymore, even to someone who should be told those things and regularly. Remember when Goldi-Lox gave you that two-week "timeout" for your over-the-top posts on LP and you posted almost immediately under a new screen name (shauwn)? Lots of us remember that. For those who may not have seen it here is one of gracie/buck's posts under the name shauwn (and he has also posted under the name Hawaii FIVE_0 and who knows what else).

48. To: Goldi-Lox (#47)

Aye!

That bad poster is really aching our minds; our souls and capabilities to distinguish the perpetrators of his demise. It is best lass to remove him for all eternity as he fights for justice about his own dignity.

shauwn posted on 2007-09-03 20:45:50 ET Reply Trace

About how drunk were you when you posted that idiotic comment, buck?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Deasy (#71)

I'm not in a panic over the flu or anything else. I said what I meant and meant what I said about Terri Schiavo. She was murdered and in a cruel, inhumane way and that's a fact.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: James Deffenbach (#72)

Now I am another poster, too? My God, I can't keep up with this historical commentary.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-29   19:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#74)

Oh, I am sure you have posted under names on other boards that I don't even know about. The ones I am sure of are shauwn, Hawaii FIVE_0 and buckeroo and the one you are using now.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: James Deffenbach (#75)

I think you also said I was Yukon and his entire family. The list goes on and on with your wild rants.

Yet, all I do is state a few points of view and ask a few questions.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-29   19:25:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#76)

No, I never said you were yukon. As I recall you posted under the names Yukons Auntie and Yukons Gramma.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: James Deffenbach (#73)

She was murdered and in a cruel, inhumane way and that's a fact.

Yes, the legal situation as inflamed as it was, made it impossible to euthanize her properly. But that's not as important as the other problems we have. It's just that the Christian right couldn't stop thinking about it.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   19:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: James Deffenbach (#77)

Totally laughable. Incredible challenges that you state. I don't even know who yukon or his family are. Are they here posting on this fine forum chit chatting about your family too?

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-29   19:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: grace_is_by_our_lord, JD, all (#76)

Cripes, if you don't have the stones to post in your own name - please, just stop.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-04-29   19:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Deasy, Artisan (#78)

She was a Catholic and so was her family. Euthanasia is a sin to Catholics, at least that is my understanding. I believe Artisan is a Catholic and I am sure there are others on the board who would know that better than I would. But the point is that her family was willing to care for her and her alleged "husband" who had already moved on with his life and had kids with another woman should not have even been allowed to visit her, let alone to finish her off.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: lodwick, christine (#80)

Cripes, if you don't have the stones to post in your own name - please, just stop.

LOL! lodwick, you do know that is buck, don't you? Just ask Christine, she knows who he is. I assumed you did too since you have probably posted on just about every board he ever has (FR, LP, Freedom Underground, etc.).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#79)

I don't even know who yukon or his family are.

Right. Sure you don't. Go piss on someone else's leg and tell them it's raining. Won't work with me.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: James Deffenbach (#83)

I can see you are fairly brain dead. It is entirely your problem not mine. I refuse to play your game anymore.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-04-29   19:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#84)

I can see you are fairly brain dead.

Oh the irony!!! LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: James Deffenbach (#81)

I know the story. Most Americans can't help but know it. FOX News had a holiday with it, thanks to millions of people who were easily drawn into the sad tale of woe. It was aright up there above that poor American girl who died on Aruba in terms of the glee they had with it. Of course this is entirely thanks to people who're willing to watch.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   19:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Deasy (#86)

If you know the story then you should know that, as a devout Catholic she would not have chosen to die that way (and who would want to be tortured to death?). And her family offered to care for her. Her "husband," if he had had an ounce of human decency, should have allowed them to take care of her. But the fact is that he didn't have even a gram of human decency. Neither did the "judge" who ordered the execution.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: James Deffenbach (#67)

If he were on fire I might help to put it out IF I had a full bladder.

I'd hold my water for a weed before I pee'd on that psychotic.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-04-29   19:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jethro Tull (#88)

Yeah, I know what you mean. I think that "judge" and Mikey Schiavo had some connection with Scientology. The area where that happened is a hotbed for those freaks.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   19:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Deasy, James Deffenbach (#71)

People need to prioritize. In the grand scheme of things, this was entirely insignificant. It was only advanced medical techniques that permitted Terri to go on living, such as antibiotics and tubal feedings, things that weren't available to Americans before the 20th century. But it made great "Christian right" drama.

Excuse me. You exist solely because of food and water. That is all Terri needed to continue to live. She was not on any other "life support" beyond food and water. Since when does the manner in which it is administered determine whether or not a person has the right to live?

The Constitution affords that as a natural right. It is the state of "default". Terri had no will stating otherwise. He husband, who had gone on with his life, fathering children with another woman, certainly gave up any claims to being a "disinterested" person as far as what would be in Terri's best interest. In fact, before he obtained millions in a lawsuit, he tearfully claimed he would do whatever he could to continue to love her and provide for her, for the rest of his life.

It's amazing how that all got swept under the rug after he got the millions and then decided "he remembered" she 'didn't want to live like that.' At the same time, he then stopped allowing any kind of normal treatments upon her, refusing to allow antibiotics given to her and the like. Ultimately, refusing her sustenance, the same thing YOU need to live.

litus  posted on  2009-04-29   20:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: James Deffenbach (#68)

You are a god, too?

Nah, he just thinks he is when he's drunk. Which, unfortunately, seems to be most of the time.

litus  posted on  2009-04-29   20:32:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Deasy, James Deffenbach (#71)

Again, we had illegal immigration. We had NAFTA. We had the SPP being drawn up. We had massive tyranny on paper. We had the NSA spying on everything we did. In fact, the FBI knew about General Olsen's planned adventure. Where were conservative Christians on that issue? Arguing until they were blue in the face about Terri's soul.

There was a mass of people who had been and continue to be jamming the phone lines about illegals and Amnesty...or do you not remember the militia groups formed, the DC phone lines going down, the outrage across the country that was *finally* waking up the sheeple.

Most people back in 2005 did not live along the border states. They did not see that illegals would 'ever' effect them. This is typical myopic way of thinking with people.

The media was complicit with this type of tunnel vision. They didn't and still don't report the criminal acts of illegals. They use other words for them...calling them "undocumented" and what have you.

Unless you spoon feed most Americans...regardless of faith, they don't get anything. I bet most still don't get the economy, but more do, because now unemployment is at about 18% across the country.

litus  posted on  2009-04-29   20:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: HOUNDDAWG (#62)

good post.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   21:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: James Deffenbach, deasy (#81)

Euthanasia is a sin to Catholics, at least that is my understanding. I believe Artisan is a Catholic and I am sure there are others on the board who would know that better than I would. But the point is that her family was willing to care for her

Yep. but i remember the family was weak-kneed about taking aggressive action. Catholics are against (at least are supposed ot be against if they follow the rules) all artificial and purposeful end to life. suicide, euthenasia, abortion, all equate murder.

taking someone off artificial life support such as a respirator or heart pumping machine does not qualify as euthenasia though, because the person could still theoretically live without those things,. Injecting them with poison to kill them or starving them to death crosses the line and is clearly murder.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   21:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#61)

thanks for the url (i did not see it in post 60).

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   21:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Artisan (#94)

Catholics are against (at least are supposed ot be against if they follow the rules) all artificial and purposeful end to life.

Survey Response%, June 1996%, March 2001%, March 2002

Protestant535352
Catholic232324

Mormon
(Latter-day Saints)
222
Orthodox11*

Non-denominational100
Something else (Specify)1*2

Not practicing any religion  100
Don't know/Refused232

TOTAL CHRISTIAN84%82%82%

So from the PEW data above we can assume that at a sizable number of Americans are easily distracted by so-called "right to life issues."

FOX probably has analysts looking at data like this and trying to determine what sort of material will draw their audiences in for more advertising time.

Looks like a cakewalk here. Plus, it's getting easier since so many illegals are Catholics.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   21:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Deasy, james deffenbach (#96)

i do not think life issues are a distraction. If someone is truly pro life they would not vote for degenerates like bush or obama. and abortion is by far not the only 'life' issue, as the repubricrats would have people believe. As a good friend of mine puts it, his fellow Catholics at his church seem to be "pro life" as long as it's a fetus, but as soon as it turns 18 it's ok to have them violate the 5th Commandment, sent off to unconstitutional wars to commit genocide and torture against foreigners.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   21:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)

Fuck that jewish piece-of-shit, I wish Hitler had slaughtered EVERY fucking jew on the planet, including him and his parents so that we would be rid of that filthy race.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-29   21:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Artisan (#97)

I found myself arguing with pro-life people who thought that illegals were OK because they were Christian Catholics, and Bush should remain in office because he might nominate more pro-life candidates. And how much time did we waste on the stem cell agenda, phony as it was since all Bush was doing was blocking federal spending on it?

Every issue that can get us to vote for one of the existing parties is a distraction, and MILLIONS of people voted for McCain and Obama because of issues just like these.

In your mind, I believe there's balance. You show that every day with your fight against the out of control legal system and your activities here. Even in the way you're responding to me is a demonstration of balance.

Most Americans on these hot button issues are NOT balanced.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   21:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: X-15 (#98)

Hitler had slaughtered EVERY fucking jew on the planet . .

===================================

Hitler was himself, the son of a Jew.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-04-29   21:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine (#60)

#60

It is coming to CRITICAL MASS at exponential speed.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-04-29   21:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#100)

Hitler was himself, the son of a Jew.

Hitler did the right thing in the end by committing suicide and not procreating.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-29   22:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#101) (Edited)

Senator Specter's later hearing of testimony from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Habeas Corpus was something to hear, considering the lecture the militiaman had given Specter about 10 years prior.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-29   22:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: X-15 (#102)

Hitler stated that had he won the war, he would "purge" the races of the world every 25 years in order to grow his Aryan Race.

I do NOT agree with or subscribe to his tyrannical oppression - it would have thrown the entire world into endless war, needlessly killing hundreds of millions of completely innocent children, women, and men.

However . .

To those of you who do not know who Jacob Schiff was: Schiff worked for the Rothschilds, or maybe even was a Rothschild, and financed the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. That's right, the Capitalist Jew paid for the birth of Communism to the World!

The Rabi Marvin S. Andelman, in his book To Eliminate the Opiate, said that Jacob Schiff is credited with giving 20 million dollars to the Bolshevik Revolution. A year after his death the Bolsheviks deposited 600 million rubles to Schiff's banking firm Kuhn & Loeb Co. (which still exists to this day and with Schiffs on board).


The Jew, Leon Trotsky, addressing the Commie Hordes.

That 20 million, brought untold misery to millions, and would've been equivalent to hundreds of millions of dollars today. Supposedly, Leon Trotsky, (a Jew, actually named Lev Bronstein) accompanied it to Russia. Only 13 members of the 384 members of the top governing body were ethnic, Gentile Russians. The leading administrators of the Gulag, where many people met horrible fates, were all Jews. Yagoda (Jew name: Ieguda or Judah) presided over the killing of millions of white gentiles.

Talk about Holocausts!

Also, Jacob Schiff is supposed to have given the order for the founding of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR), those that are behind the North American Union and the end to the concept of the United States of America.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-04-29   22:10:50 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Deasy (#103)

" . . considering the lecture the militiaman had given Specter about 10 years prior. "

===================================

He was a Socialist son-of-a-bitch ten years ago. Nothing has changed, other than the Party Affiliation under his name when he sits down in his overstuffed Senate chair.

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-04-29   22:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: litus (#90)

Excuse me. You exist solely because of food and water. That is all Terri needed to continue to live. She was not on any other "life support" beyond food and water. Since when does the manner in which it is administered determine whether or not a person has the right to live?

The Constitution affords that as a natural right. It is the state of "default". Terri had no will stating otherwise. He husband, who had gone on with his life, fathering children with another woman, certainly gave up any claims to being a "disinterested" person as far as what would be in Terri's best interest. In fact, before he obtained millions in a lawsuit, he tearfully claimed he would do whatever he could to continue to love her and provide for her, for the rest of his life.

It's amazing how that all got swept under the rug after he got the millions and then decided "he remembered" she 'didn't want to live like that.' At the same time, he then stopped allowing any kind of normal treatments upon her, refusing to allow antibiotics given to her and the like. Ultimately, refusing her sustenance, the same thing YOU need to live.

Excellent post, litus.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   22:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Deasy (#99)

Every issue that can get us to vote for one of the existing parties is a distraction, and MILLIONS of people voted for McCain and Obama because of issues just like these.

Thanks. I try to tell people all the time that they are all criminal puppets. and actually bush's apointees are not pro life or pro constitution. thats an easy point to prove. youre right, the people are decieved and caught up in the theatre. it is sad.

This is one of my favorite pictures. it sums the whole thing up pretty well.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   22:25:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Artisan (#94)

Injecting them with poison to kill them or starving them to death crosses the line and is clearly murder.

Yes, and they starved and dehydrated her to death. If you did the same thing to an animal you would be prosecuted. And rightly so.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-04-29   22:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: James Deffenbach (#108)

If you did the same thing to an animal you would be prosecuted. And rightly so.

that reminds me,. we have a new law in CA that forbids people from tying or teathering your dog for more than 3 hours. the kennel and breeders, ranchers etc were all against this bs law. the left winger/ peta crowd were for it. i know two families personally who have been forced to give up their dogs.

the local kook cops peer and peek into peoples yards now, and issue tickets, and ultimatums. the world is nuts. lol.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-04-29   22:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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