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Title: The Hysteria of the Hysterical
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Published: Apr 29, 2009
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2009-04-29 07:58:57 by Turtle
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Comments: 31

36,000 a year in the U.S. die from the flu, and it not considered an epidemic Now, swine flu has killed a fraction of that, and the foolish are babbling like it's 1918 again.

More people die from car wrecks than from the flu.

AIDS was gonna kill us all off, and it turns out it's a fag and IV drug user disease.

I pay very little attention to any of it. I don't believe anything I read, and less of what I hear.

After 9-11, I had a woman in a store tell me than then the WTC fell, one guy on top surfed his way down on the collapsing building. I told her that was impossible, and she acted offended.

The sheeple are idiots and will believe anything. The bigger the lie, the more likely they are to believe it.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

Using new and improved statistical models, CDC scientists estimate that an average of 36,000 people (up from 20,000 in previous estimates) die from influenza-related complications each year in the United States. In addition, about 11,000 people die per year from respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), a virus that causes upper and lower respiratory tract infections primarily in young children and older adults. The study demonstrates that most deaths caused by RSV occur in the elderly.

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The Spanish flu killed between 50 to 80 million around the world in 1918, including many Americans.

That is a pandemic.

The 36,000 flu-related deaths you refer to is not.

Do you see the difference?

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2009-04-29   8:08:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, All (#1)

The Spanish flu killed between 50 to 80 million around the world in 1918, including many Americans.

The way I remember reading about it, a small percentage that caught that flu died from it, which was not much higher than the "regular" flu. The problem was, it was so much more contagious that that 50-80 million dead was only at about the same percentage that die from the regular flu.

I could be wrong though. If I am, someone will enlighten me.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-29   8:57:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: PSUSA (#6)

I could be wrong though. If I am, someone will enlighten me.

The flu in general was more dangerous then, and that one was a doozy. My great uncle Joe had it, along with most of his family, and he sat semi-conscious in a tub of cold water for days.

What was so different about this flu was not just the mortality but the mortality pattern. It disproportionately killed able-bodied young and middle-aged men. Normally, it is the very young or very old who die from the flu. The mortality was probably the result of the flu when combined with undiagnosed tuberculosis, as suggested by the (lagged) reduction in TB deaths.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-29   10:38:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#12)

It disproportionately killed able-bodied young and middle-aged men. Normally, it is the very young or very old who die from the flu.

I agree. And that is what I dont understand. What is it about young healthy people that makes this so dangerous? What about the older and unhealthy ones? Could it be a lifestyle thing?

Healthy young people come in contact with more people so maybe it's still a small percentage that die, but because more of them get sick then that means more deaths. But what you said makes sense too, regarding TB + the flu.

I know what it's like to be knocked on my ass by the flu. I lost about 10 lbs in a little over a week. Thank God that doesn't happen often. I'd like to lose 10 lbs per week, but not like that.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-04-29   10:55:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: PSUSA (#15)

What is it about young healthy people that makes this so dangerous?

Concerning mortality, as far as I can tell, young is in evidence, healthy is questionable.

This is Mexico we're talking about.

It'll be interesting to see what, if anything it does in Asia. Asia and Latin America are the two big TB reservoirs. Asian immigrants actually have a higher TB rate.

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