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Title: Exhuming Bob X: Lubavitcher Bob (Dylan)
Source: idynamo.wordpress.com
URL Source: http://idynamo.wordpress.com/2008/0 ... xhuming-bob-x-lubavitcher-bob/
Published: Jun 25, 2008
Author: R.E. Prindle
Post Date: 2009-04-30 14:39:31 by bluegrass
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Views: 912
Comments: 17

In 1979 Bob publicly embraced Jesus as his personal savior. This was widely seen as a conversion to Christianity because Bob went to the Vineyard Fellowship of Tarzana for indoctrination into the Christian mysteries. He could hardly have learned Christianity from Jewish circles although the Jewish group of Jews For Jesus was already active. Pharasaic Jews have always despised Jews For Jesus so that may not have been a viable option for Bob.

While non-Jews may be scandalized by the concept of Jews embracing Jesus there is no reason for them to be astounded. After all Jesus was a Jew, preaching to Jews in the Jewish tradition. The early Christian movement was entirely Jewish. They were Jews of the Jews who had accepted Jesus as the Jewish Messiah. Christianity became a universal religion only after Paul reconstructed it shedding the practices most repellent to gentiles while the Hellennic or Greek religion and philosophy was grafted onto the religion which gave it substance and intellectual vigor displacing Semitic stultification.

There should be little wonder then that Jewish Christianity should resurface two thousand years later with Bob as its Messiah.

Bob was uniquely trained for the role. He grew up in a Christian community dominated by the Hillbilly music on the radio with a large and active Jewish congregation. His father thought of himself as a Jewish scholar while heading the local chapter of B’nai B’rith and ADL. His father was covertly ultra-orthodox.

In 1990 Bob wrote a letter to the editor of a publication called Sister2Sister. (Bob’s Unshakeable Monotheism, Part IV, Scott Marshall http://www.jewsweek.com/ ) in which he said:

"…until the entire world believes and obeys the same God, there can be no truth or justice or peace for anyone."

What that means in the age old Jewish notion that as God’s chosen people they are destined to bring their vision of God to all the peoples of the Earth at which time they will become a nation of priests, the rulers and overseers of all others. The Supreme People placed between God and humanity as demi-gods.

The notion did not necessarily occur to Bob in 1990 but was placed in his mind at a much earlier date. It would always have been present in the synagogue. Anyone who has ever attended Jewish services will be be struck by the insistence that Jews are to rule the world and all the peoples. It is the duty of every Jew to further that work.

Whether Bob had the Messianic impulse before his Bar Mitzvah is the question. It may have been there in embryo. In 1954 as Bob was about to turn thirteen his father, Abraham, who obviously believed the proper religious education was lacking in Hibbing sent for a Lubavitcher Rebbe from Brooklyn to come to Hibbing specifically to indoctrinate Bob in the more recondite lore of the ultra-orthodox. The intensity of the instruction would be virtual hypnosis. It was at this point, I believe, that the Messianic impulse was fixed in Bob’s mind.

The indoctrination had devastating results for the young boy’s character and personality. He went off the rails becoming wild and dissolute. In searching for a means to spread the message he had received he hit on music and from there it led into folk music. Folk music had a special appeal because it was a pure expression of the dominant culture. If one subverted folk music one subverted the culture.

Thus after being initiated into folk at Dinkytown near the University of Minnesota Bob left for the Big Apple, New York City. The Folk scene of Greenwhich Village in New York was a virtual Jewish enclave or colony. A great many Jews were already doing what Bob set out to do. Disoriented by his conflicts between his Jewish and Christian education Bob nevertheless set about changing Folk music, discarding the content for Jewish themes while retaining the outer forms. The Jewish world organization realizing they had something in Bob gave him maximum publicity actually turning him into a messianic figure through television and magazines.

The stresses of intense fame to his personality and character were terrific almost destroying him. Bob retreated at the height of his fame in 1966 after having established himself with three terrifically influential record albums. His mind was now focused and somewhat cleared. Placing a large Bible in the middle of his living room for easy reference Bob and his band worked and experimented with the Folk and old timey oeuvre of the White Christian hill people. Once again retaining the forms while stripping the material of the content, he infused Jewish Biblical content which was familiar to the Christian culture into the material. The immediate result was John Wesley Harding which is a Jewish religious album in tradtional White Christian dress.

The result is quite remarkable and on that basis is an astounding work of Jewish genius. Unaware of what was being done to them White Americans could offer no defense except rejection. There were quite a few of us who walked away from Bob at that point. I can’t say that I understood what Bob had done but I felt the insult to my sensibilities.

Thus, in retrospect, Bob’s so-called Christian period became inevitable as his strategy slowly unfolded in his mind. There is no conflict with Bob’s intense Jewishness in his combined religious entities, or reclaiming the Jewish Jesus for Judaism. Nothing could be more natural.

The preemption of the goi culture for Judaism is the astonishing achievement of little Bobby Zimmerman. Long after the fact there are still few who get it. Subscribe to *Hasbarfa Alert*

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#1. To: christine, pinguinite, Jethro Tull, randge, HOUNDDAWG, farmfriend, scrapper2, Lady X, Esso, DeaconBenjamin, bush_is_a_moonie, Cynicom, Prefrontal Vortex, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Rupert_Pupkin, PSUSA, wbales (#0)

The preemption of the goi culture for Judaism is the astonishing achievement of little Bobby Zimmerman. Long after the fact there are still few who get it.

It took me a few years but I caught on. I own no Dylan records and no longer play his songs at gigs.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   14:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#0)

The Jewish world organization realizing they had something in Bob gave him maximum publicity actually turning him into a messianic figure through television and magazines.

The MSM sneer at anybody who doesn't embrace Bob Dylan as a '60's icon.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-04-30   14:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: X-15 (#2)

Dylan represents the uberconnectness of international Jewry. That's why the MSM worships the bastard:

"Dylan was born and spent his early childhood in Duluth, Minnesota to parents Abe and Beatty Zimmerman. After Abe was stricken with polio, the family moved to Hibbing, Minnesota close to Bob's sixth birthday. Abe's parents, Zigman and Anna Zimmerman, were Jewish immigrants from Odessa, Ukraine. In the 1950s, Hibbing had a stable Jewish community of about 300 people, and his parents took active community roles. His father was president of B'nai Brith, and his mother was president of the local Hadassah chapter.

Dylan attended religious school at the community's only synagogue, Agudas Achim. He attended a Zionist camp in Wisconsin, Herzl Camp, where he played guitar, piano, and harmonica with his fellow campers. At 13, he had a Bar Mitzvah in Hibbing with a guest list of around 400, which according to Moment magazine is rumored to be the largest ever in the town's history."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Bob_Dylan.html

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   15:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluegrass (#0)

American music pretty much ends for me around 1967 or so, but I like all hillbilly music and bluegrass and blues.

Wherever I go shopping, eating or listening to the AM/FM I hear discordant, hysterical, adolescent whining of guitars.

All those four-letter Anglo-Saxon words like "rock," "punk," and "dope" epitomise the long slow decline of this country for me. You could add "rap" to the list.

So, screw it, I don't listen to this stuff. I've developed a facility for filtering it out.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-30   16:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: randge (#4) (Edited)

Video's not showing for some reason when I try to embed...

Uncle Dave Macon - Way Down the Old Plank Road

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   16:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass (#5) (Edited)

Letter perfect.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-30   17:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: randge (#6)

It's not showing in my browser for some reason...

What song did you link to?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   17:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass (#5)

Well, there's one kind of favor I'll ask of you,
Well, there's one kind of favor I'll ask of you,
There's just one kind of favor I'll ask of you,
You can see that my grave is kept clean.

And there's two white horses following me,
And there's two white horses following me,
I got two white horses following me,
Waiting on my burying ground.

Did you ever hear that coffin sound,
Have you ever heard that coffin sound,
Did you ever hear that coffin sound,
Means another poor boy is under ground.

Did you ever hear them church bells toll,
Did you ever hear them church bells toll,
Did you ever hear them church bells toll,
Means another poor boy is dead and gone.

Well, my heart stopped beating and my hands turned cold,
Well, my heart stopped beating and my hands turned cold,
Well, my heart stopped beating and my hands turned cold,
Now I believe what the Bible told.

There's just one last favor I'll ask of you,
And there's one last favor I'll ask of you,
There's just one last favor I'll ask of you,
See that my grave is kept clean.

Tributes to an old boy from whom much was stole by white boys including the aforesaid & who never got rich off it.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-30   17:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#7)

Fixed it.

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randge  posted on  2009-04-30   17:14:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#8)

Come you ladies and you gentlemen
And listen to my song,
I'll sing it to you right, but you might think it's wrong,
May make you mad, but I mean no harm,
It's all about the renters on Penny's farm.

CHORUS:

It's hard times in the country,
Down on Penny's farm.

Now you move out on Penny's farm,
Plant a little crop of 'bacco and a little crop of corn,
He'll come around to plan and plot,
Till he gets himself a mortgage
On everything you got.
You go to the fields

And you work all day,
Till way after dark, but you get no pay,
Promise you meat or a little lard,
It's hard to be a renter on Penny's farm.

Now here's George Penny come into town,
With his wagon-load of peaches, not one of them sound,
He's got to have his money or somebody's check,
You pay him for a bushel,
And you don't get a peck.

Then George Penny's renters, they come into town,
With their hands in their pockets, and their heads hanging down,
Go in the store and the merchant will say:
"Your mortgage is due
And I'm looking for my pay."

Goes down in his pocket with a trembling hand --
"Can't pay you all but I'll pay you what I can."
Then to the telephone the merchant makes a call,
"They'll put you on the chain gang
If you don't pay it all."

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   17:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#8)

All of the Blind boys (Lemon J, Blake, Willie McTell, etc) were ripped off mercilessly.

Great song, btw.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-04-30   17:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bluegrass (#11)

Like Jump?

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randge  posted on  2009-04-30   18:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: bluegrass (#0)

I can’t say that I understood what Bob had done but I felt the insult to my sensibilities.

I know exactly what he means.

Everything lasts and everything ends. Longer than our children could ever imagine, faster than we could ever imagine. Children are the stuff of life; god was right to deny us immortality.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-04-30   18:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#13)

Fortunately, I never gave a shit about Dylan or "folk" music for that matter. I became a big Joni Mitchell fan once she transcended that crap and started to do some serious stuff

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2009-04-30   20:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluegrass (#1)

I really like one, and only one, Dylan song: Hurricane. And that has nothing to do with that mumbling freak. It's the bass and fiddle playing on one another. Just musically phenomenal, IMO.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-04-30   22:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: wbales, Rube Goldberg, Prefrontal Vortex, christine (#15)

Useful criticism here. I'll say that Dylan started to question fundamental 20th century assumptions, but he didn't go nearly far enough. He was his mother's son, after all.

Deasy  posted on  2009-04-30   22:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: bluegrass, RE Prindle (#0)

ping

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-02   14:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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