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Title: Racists Using Swine Flu As Excuse to Promote Hate
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URL Source: http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/new ... -swine-flu-excuse-promote-hate
Published: Apr 30, 2009
Author: Shani Saxon-Parrish
Post Date: 2009-04-30 20:05:37 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 4351
Comments: 133
The frenzy over swine flu has spurred another potentially deadly outbreak: racist hate-mongering against Mexicans and Mexican-American immigrants. Conservative journalists and scared American citizens are looking for someone, anything to blame for this still small global outbreak. With no proof to support his beliefs, California radio jock Michael Savage said, "Make no mistake about it: Illegal aliens are the carriers of the new strain of human-swine avian flu from Mexico." He also added that it would be a good idea to avoid contact with illegal immigrants, insisting that people who eat out are "morons who eat in restaurants with illegals all over the kitchen." Fox News columnist Michelle Malkin also weighed in with frightening commentary: "I've blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration." Rampant misinformation has even motivated the ALIPAC, or Americans For Legal Immigration, to ask Congress to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border in order to contain the swine flu. And talk show host Neal Boortz has gone so far as to suggest Islamic terrorists created the deadly flu strain and introduced it to Mexicans as a sneaky way to spread it to the U.S. "What better way to sneak a virus into this country than to give it to Mexicans....then spread a rumor that there are construction jobs here, and there they come," Boortz stated. Perhaps the scariest thing is that these ignorant people with large platforms aren’t feeling any repercussions from their comments. Why are certain public figures allowed to be so openly racist and hateful? Is it because many people find an odd comfort in placing the blame on a group they consider to be outsiders? Members of the Latino community are marginalized enough as it is, and this level of hate-talk is only making things worse. "It's a virus. Any of us can get it,” says Lalo Rios, a radio DJ in Reno, Nevada. “Closing the borders is not going to help. Pointing the finger at certain groups isn't going to help anything either.”
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#44. To: robnoel (#43)
I don't know about the pro-lifers you mention, what I am saying is that only the political right is being silenced by PC. Tons of examples out there, but I'm sure there isn't a need to make my case. My point is this "hate" legislation will be used to protect certain groups and sanctions will be applied to whites (mostly)
I get the anger. I'm fit to explode myself. Perhaps because your folks don't come from a country where folks were rounded up, you don't understand my concern. These things happen because the ordinary folks are OK with this kind of loose talk. A man shouldn't be suprised if this kind genocidal rhetoric is turned around against him. In truth, given the current state of affaits it's guys like you and me who are in greatest danger of political persecution. And persecution is a prospect that is now not as remote as it seemed just months ago. Taking a consistent moral position is no guarantee that a man won't be the object of a witch hunt some day, but wishing hell on others arms the opposition. They know too fucking well how to use your words against you.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. i do support Severin's free speech rights but that doesn't then extend to supporting in any way the killing of the Hutus or anyone else. is it your contention that had it not been for the Rwandan radio jocks, these killings would have not occurred? was it their incitement or did they actually do the killing?
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
All so called "conservative" talk show hosts are or say they are in one breath pro life then in the next breath want to kill all the muslims...I agree with your point about hate legislation but if were not for these nut jobs we would not be talking about it or now dealing with it
Yes
Let me apply the same logic to the folks who *abhor* torture yet applaud the Obama surge in Afghanistan and his Drone'ing of innocent Paki's.
No question no matter which side it comes from
From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
"She will be prosecuted for genocide and crimes against humanity," the justice minister said. Radio Mille Collines became notorious for its broadcasts which encouraged the slaughter of Tutsis and of Hutus who were sympathetic to the Tutsi cause. The station was launched in 1993, backed by family members of the Hutu President Juvenal Habyarimana - whose death in a plane crash triggered the genocide. "Do not kill those inyenzi (cockroaches) with a bullet - cut them to pieces with a machete" was one comment attributed to Ms Bemeriki. i think it's a huge stretch, Robby, to compare the speech of Bemeriki in this incidence to that of Severin's. Severin is not in any way inciting violence by calling ILLEGAL mexicans criminaliens, primatives, and leeches. further, i find it difficult to believe that her speech caused the genocide. i'm sure there was decades, if not generations, of fighting and hatred between these tribes. certainly her speech heightened and inflamed the situation which is reprehensibly irresponsible, but to be prosecuted for genocide and crimes against humanity as if she did the actual killing is wrong.
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Excellent. Germany in 1938 couldn't have happened, I think, if the press was responsible. That style of Free Speech cost Germany and the world quite a bit. Interesting observation v. Rwanda, I was unaware of radio's role in the pograms.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Yes they left it to states ergo the 10th Amendment and hence my reference to blaspheme laws.... as for Jay lets not forget "words have consequences" this what Jay said "So now, in addition to venereal disease and the other leading exports of Mexico -- women with mustaches and VD -- now we have swine flu," Severin said this week. During a conversation with a caller complaining about immigrants receiving health care, Severin said emergency rooms had "become essentially condos for Mexicans," and blamed what he deemed the "world's lowest primitives" for the recent outbreak. "It's millions of leeches from a primitive country come here to leech off you and, with it, they are ruining the schools, the hospitals, and a lot of life in America," he said. Not much difference to how events unfolded in Rwanda Rwanda genocide journalists sentenced Thursday, December 4, 2003 NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) -- Two Rwandan journalists were jailed for life and a third was sentenced to 35 years Wednesday for fanning the flames of a 1994 genocide that killed an estimated 800,000 people, a U.N. tribunal spokesman said. The verdict marks the end of a landmark three-year trial during which the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Tanzania heard how the media played a major role in inciting extremists from the Hutu majority to carry out the 100-day slaughter of ethnic Tutsis and politically moderate Hutus. Ferdinand Nahimana, a founding member of Radio Television Libres des Mille Collines (RTLM), was sentenced to life in prison along with Hassan Ngeze, owner and editor of the Hutu extremist newspaper Kangura. Life in prison is the most severe penalty that can be handed down by the tribunal. "Nahimana chose a path of genocide and betrayed the trust placed in him as an intellectual and a leader," said Presiding Judge Navanethem Pillay. "He caused the deaths of thousands of civilians without a firearm." The third defendant, Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza, who was also a founder of RTLM and public affairs director in Rwanda's Foreign Affairs Ministry, was sentenced to 35 years in prison. "RTLM broadcasts was a drumbeat calling on listeners to take action against Tutsis," Judge Pillay said. "RTLM spread petrol throughout the country little by little, so that one day it would be able to set fire to the whole country," he said.
i strongly disagree with you.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?
I take it you like Jay who like Rush Hanniety Medved Hewitt et al have all been wrong about everything for the past 8 years...sorry but he is a neocon and I have no time for bigots
Click on the vids and learn the real story.
"words have consequences"......the hate law is just cause and effect...much like Sept 11th....American conservatives have been feed a bill of goods by its so called radio jocks....I don't blame liberals for doing what they do I do however blame the likes of Jay etc for giving them the excuse
I'm from Africa I know the real story
i don't know much about him, robby. i'm responding solely on the quote above. like Voltaire, whether i like what he says or not, i support his right to say it.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
Do me a favor, define conservative. The reason I ask is simple; put 10 people in a room and you'll get 10 different answers. All this because there has been a steady dilution of the philosophy by those who vote for the less of two evils. The movement went from an early Buckley, Barry Goldwater and all the paleos, to this pile of crap identifying themselves as such. So when you mention "conservative" and then plug in Hannity, Limbaugh and whoever the fuck this Jay guy is, you make no sense to anyone who follows politics to even a small degree.
And I'm from America so read the post about *OUR* "conservative" politics, and not what u define as such.
Come on Christine Voltaire was referring to religion
Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it
When guys post dumb shit like this: The Swine Flue is a valid reason why this nation should practice genocide. The sick wetbacks cross into our country with their diseases, poverty, crime and corruption, and we should give them one of two options: Leave or be buried here. That is my idea of immigration reform. Do I hear an amen? RO they get their "amen." Then the robnoels of the planet come out of the woodwork, and shake their little forfingers in your face. Behind them in the second rank are the bolsheviks, and they have power - in increasing depth and magnitude. That is becoming crystal clear these days make no mistake about it. Choose the short of rhetoric you use, and choose wisely. If you choose well, you will be fighting on your own ground. If you choose ill, or just strike out like a wounded beast, these people will have your chestnuts. You have no idea how fast this can happen.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. From the BBC article: Sorry, seems to me those people had it coming to them, the same as the people who are destroying this country do, as well as their families. Better late then never.
Please address your bitch to "guys". I'll be happy to defend my comments, and
I suggest others do the same.
This is a side of the Rwanda tale of woe that is seldom mentioned by our Jewish-dominated media.
And therefore Hannity, Limbaugh, and the Jay fuck who has your panties twisted do not fit the definition. So please, stop calling them "conservatives."
François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), better known by the pen name Voltaire, was a French Enlightenment writer, essayist, and philosopher known for his wit, philosophical sport and defence of civil liberties, including both freedom of religion and free trade. Voltaire was a prolific writer and produced works in almost every literary form, authoring plays, poetry, novels, essays, historical and scientific works, more than 20,000 letters and more than 2000 books and pamphlets. He was an outspoken supporter of social reform, despite strict censorship laws and harsh penalties for those who broke them. A satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize Catholic Church dogma and the French institutions of his day. Voltaire was one of several Enlightenment figures (along with Montesquieu, John Locke, Thomas Hobbes and Jean-Jacques Rousseau) whose works and ideas influenced important thinkers of both the American and French Revolutions.
The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama
There was a Canadian General, IIRC, who had some 2,500 troops ready to step in at the onset and separate the tribes. Kofi Annan & the Clintoids intentionally kept him on the sidelines. He raised countless bitches to no avail. The event was staged, approved and green lighted by the UN, and Washington. Welcome to Africa, the Dark Continent where such events are lore.
I have often referred to them as "so called conservatives"...and my "panties have been twisted" for the past 8 years for them spewing their daily so called "conservative" values
May I suggest you drop "conservative" completely? Call them "so called" if that works for you. ********** Program Excerpt 1: The Warning An informant tells Gen. Dallaire about Hutu extremists' extermination plans. But Kofi Annan's U.N. peacekeeping office is skeptical; Annan tells Dallaire not to raid arms caches and avoid using any force. The extremists are now confident the U.N. won't stand in their way. On April 6th the Rwanda president's plane is shot down. The killing begins. Dallaire again requests U.N. guidance and again is told to avoid armed conflict. FYI, for months during that slaughter, I faxed my congressman, Jim Greenwood and Senator Helms urging them to intervene in the slaughter. Not one of more than (I guess over a hundred) faxes was answered. I gave a shit and your Africa and My America didn't.
I see your concern for the Tutsi's is in stark contrast with your other "America first" sentiments. At the time I wanted intervention, myself. I would say otherwise today. Our own people are slipping beneath the waves of history, in part due to their false sense of noblesse oblige.
As I understand it most of those 800,000 men, women and children were killed by machete blows. That Canadian general, w/2500 troops feels he could have stopped it. If we as a civilized people can prevent that, we should. Bringing it closer to home, if we could prevent another Irish potato famine (more than a million starved by the Brits), I'd stop that also.
The power of radio... most if not all of the GDP (general dumb public) associate Rush and company as "conservative" and is the reason true conservatives have now been relegated to the dust bin of history....and if you really want to know how I currently feel .... the only thing that may give America back it's pride is a horse....maybe that horse will show up tomorrow in Kentucky Wonder horse who gave a nation back its pride His breeders wrote him off. A trader bought him by accident. Now the world's fastest race-horse is the talk of Hungary, reports Daniel McLaughlin As Gabriella Jesensky steps towards the paddock rail with a rosy apple for her favourite horse, a black-clad security guard blocks her path. It is not just any nag rolling in the dirt and kicking up huge clouds of ochre dust behind him. This is Overdose, perhaps the fastest – if not the prettiest – horse in the world, and a horse carrying the hopes of the Hungarian nation. Bought almost by accident at a sale three years ago in England for just £2,100, Overdose is now worth millions after winning all 12 of his races in stunning fashion. He is credited with revitalising not only Hungary's ancient equestrian tradition, but the spirit of a country wearied by its political and economic woes. Last weekend, on the heels of a government collapse, the announcement of a harsh austerity budget and predictions of the worst recession since the fall of communism, Overdose streaked to victory at Kincsem Park in Budapest, the country's last surviving racecourse. About 20,000 people flocked to watch him – more than 20 times the usual attendance and thousands more than its official capacity – and laid bets with such abandon that the 30-year-old bookmaking system collapsed under the strain. Overdose broke the course record on his way to the finishing post, although the antiquated timing system also seized up on the big occasion.
I don't know how we got to the Derby, but I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?
The white man's burden.
Yeah. Wasn't throwing that in your face. I apologize if it seemed that way. You asked a good question: "What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?" The answer is, in my book, absolutely nothing. Point was these leftists are ready to drop the strawman argument on a moment's notice. When "guys" say edgy stuff, they feed the beast. The next thing you know, you're arguing about whether talk show hosts should here should be held to the same standards as talk show hosts in Rwanda. The argument should be that you and I have the right to say anything we want to that doesn't defame or materially damage someone else. End of story. It's non- negotiable. This isn't Europe or Rwanda or any other damned place. The reality though is that when "guys" say "nigger" or "genocide illegals" on this forum, they hand these bastards a weapon that they will not fail to use.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Does that quote now makes sense?....he also said... Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Thanks for asking :-) Feel-good story of Tom McCarthy, General Quarters, rides into Kentucky Derby LOUISVILLE - My high school biology teacher, Mr. Mitnick, gave me a tongue-lashing I've never forgotten, cut me up and down like one of his precious little frogs. Tom McCarthy, who taught the same subject, comes close to erasing that memory when he carries on about General Quarters, the important horse in his barn, the only horse. The 75-1/2-year-old owner-trainer-grandpappy-babysitter is the Derby's best prerace story. General Quarters may not be the best horse but he shouldn't be overlooked. Which is what McCarthy did when he first had a chance to fill his one-horse barn. His busiest year he was 0-for-22. And came into this year zip-for-everything since a single win in 2006. It's sadder than the economy. Until you hit the Churchill Downs backstretch, Barn 37, where McCarthy is canoodling with and bathing the 3-year-old he could have sold for several million not too many weeks ago. He won't reveal the exact figures. "Very decent offers," he said, "but I promised I wouldn't say how much. Over a million? Oh, yes, but I want to take him all the way if I can. No ifs, ands or buts. At this point in my life I don't need an awful lot of money. At my age, and being from Louisville, I'll probably never have another chance at the Kentucky Derby. You just don't sell a dream."
Thanks you made my point
Gotcha randge, it's all good. Peace.
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#45. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#42)
Your concern, like the original post to which you replied, is simply not to be taken seriously.
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#46. To: robnoel (#40)
And if you support Severin and his elk's free speech rights than I take it you also supported the radio jocks in Rwanda who were responsible for the killing 800,000 Hutus
#47. To: Jethro Tull (#44)
I don't know about the pro-lifers you mention
#48. To: christine (#46)
is it your contention that had it not been for the Rwandan radio jocks, these killings would have not occurred? was it their incitement or did they actually do the killing?
#49. To: robnoel (#47)
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
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#51. To: robnoel (#40)
http://books.google.com/books?id...=result&resnum=4#PPA63,M1
#52. To: robnoel (#48)
A Rwandan radio journalist has been charged with inciting mass killings during the 1994 genocide. Valerie Bemeriki, a former employee of the independent Radio Mille Collines, was arrested in north-western Rwanda late last week, according to Justice Minister Jean de Dieu Mucyo.
#53. To: robnoel (#40)
And if you support Severin and his elk's free speech rights than I take it you also supported the radio jocks in Rwanda who were responsible for the killing 800,000 Hutus ......being in the business of talk radio I take my responsibilities very seriously and attempt to educate and inform... not to mislead and promote xenophobia.
#54. To: christine (#51)
From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."
#55. To: robnoel (#54)
Not much difference to how events unfolded in Rwanda
#56. To: robnoel (#54)
#57. To: christine (#55)
#58. To: robnoel (#57)
sorry but he is a neocon and I have no time for bigots
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#56)
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#61. To: robnoel (#57)
#62. To: robnoel (#59)
#63. To: robnoel (#60)
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#64. To: christine (#61)
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#56)
What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?
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#67. To: christine (#52)
further, i find it difficult to believe that her speech caused the genocide. i'm sure there was decades, if not generations, of fighting and hatred between these tribes.
An estimated 800,000 people were killed in the 1994 genocide, which was directed against the Tutsi people who were Rwanda's feudal rulers until 1959.
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#68. To: randge (#66)
When guys post dumb s**t like this:
#69. To: Esso (#67)
An estimated 800,000 people were killed in the 1994 genocide, which was directed against the Tutsi people who were Rwanda's feudal rulers until 1959.
#70. To: robnoel (#65)
Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it
#71. To: robnoel (#64)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire
#72. To: Deasy (#69)
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
#74. To: robnoel (#73)
#75. To: Jethro Tull, robnoel (#74)
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#77. To: Jethro Tull (#74)
#78. To: robnoel (#77)
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#76)
#80. To: Jethro Tull, All (#68)
Please address your bitch to "guys".
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#81. To: christine (#71)
A satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize Catholic Church
#82. To: Jethro Tull (#78)
I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?
#83. To: randge (#80)
The reality though is that when "guys" say "nigger" or "genocide illegals" on this forum, they hand these bastards a weapon that they will not fail to use.
#84. To: randge (#80)
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