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Title: Racists Using Swine Flu As Excuse to Promote Hate
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URL Source: http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/new ... -swine-flu-excuse-promote-hate
Published: Apr 30, 2009
Author: Shani Saxon-Parrish
Post Date: 2009-04-30 20:05:37 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 4323
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The frenzy over swine flu has spurred another potentially deadly outbreak: racist hate-mongering against Mexicans and Mexican-American immigrants. Conservative journalists and scared American citizens are looking for someone, anything to blame for this still small global outbreak. With no proof to support his beliefs, California radio jock Michael Savage said, "Make no mistake about it: Illegal aliens are the carriers of the new strain of human-swine avian flu from Mexico." He also added that it would be a good idea to avoid contact with illegal immigrants, insisting that people who eat out are "morons who eat in restaurants with illegals all over the kitchen." Fox News columnist Michelle Malkin also weighed in with frightening commentary: "I've blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration."

Rampant misinformation has even motivated the ALIPAC, or Americans For Legal Immigration, to ask Congress to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border in order to contain the swine flu. And talk show host Neal Boortz has gone so far as to suggest Islamic terrorists created the deadly flu strain and introduced it to Mexicans as a sneaky way to spread it to the U.S. "What better way to sneak a virus into this country than to give it to Mexicans....then spread a rumor that there are construction jobs here, and there they come," Boortz stated.

Perhaps the scariest thing is that these ignorant people with large platforms aren’t feeling any repercussions from their comments. Why are certain public figures allowed to be so openly racist and hateful? Is it because many people find an odd comfort in placing the blame on a group they consider to be outsiders? Members of the Latino community are marginalized enough as it is, and this level of hate-talk is only making things worse. "It's a virus. Any of us can get it,” says Lalo Rios, a radio DJ in Reno, Nevada. “Closing the borders is not going to help. Pointing the finger at certain groups isn't going to help anything either.” (1 image)

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#70. To: robnoel (#65)

Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it

And therefore Hannity, Limbaugh, and the Jay fuck who has your panties twisted do not fit the definition. So please, stop calling them "conservatives."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: robnoel (#64)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire

François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), better known by the pen name Voltaire, was a French Enlightenment writer, essayist, and philosopher known for his wit, philosophical sport and defence of civil liberties, including both freedom of religion and free trade.

Voltaire was a prolific writer and produced works in almost every literary form, authoring plays, poetry, novels, essays, historical and scientific works, more than 20,000 letters and more than 2000 books and pamphlets.

He was an outspoken supporter of social reform, despite strict censorship laws and harsh penalties for those who broke them. A satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize Catholic Church dogma and the French institutions of his day.

Voltaire was one of several Enlightenment figures (along with Montesquieu, John Locke, Thomas Hobbes and Jean-Jacques Rousseau) whose works and ideas influenced important thinkers of both the American and French Revolutions.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-01   21:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Deasy (#69)

There was a Canadian General, IIRC, who had some 2,500 troops ready to step in at the onset and separate the tribes. Kofi Annan & the Clintoids intentionally kept him on the sidelines. He raised countless bitches to no avail. The event was staged, approved and green lighted by the UN, and Washington. Welcome to Africa, the Dark Continent where such events are lore.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)

I have often referred to them as "so called conservatives"...and my "panties have been twisted" for the past 8 years for them spewing their daily so called "conservative" values

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:21:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: robnoel (#73)

May I suggest you drop "conservative" completely? Call them "so called" if that works for you.

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Program Excerpt 1: The Warning An informant tells Gen. Dallaire about Hutu extremists' extermination plans. But Kofi Annan's U.N. peacekeeping office is skeptical; Annan tells Dallaire not to raid arms caches and avoid using any force. The extremists are now confident the U.N. won't stand in their way. On April 6th the Rwanda president's plane is shot down. The killing begins. Dallaire again requests U.N. guidance and again is told to avoid armed conflict.

HERE

FYI, for months during that slaughter, I faxed my congressman, Jim Greenwood and Senator Helms urging them to intervene in the slaughter. Not one of more than (I guess over a hundred) faxes was answered. I gave a shit and your Africa and My America didn't.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Jethro Tull, robnoel (#74)

I see your concern for the Tutsi's is in stark contrast with your other "America first" sentiments. At the time I wanted intervention, myself. I would say otherwise today. Our own people are slipping beneath the waves of history, in part due to their false sense of noblesse oblige.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-01   21:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Deasy (#75)

As I understand it most of those 800,000 men, women and children were killed by machete blows. That Canadian general, w/2500 troops feels he could have stopped it. If we as a civilized people can prevent that, we should. Bringing it closer to home, if we could prevent another Irish potato famine (more than a million starved by the Brits), I'd stop that also.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Jethro Tull (#74)

The power of radio... most if not all of the GDP (general dumb public) associate Rush and company as "conservative" and is the reason true conservatives have now been relegated to the dust bin of history....and if you really want to know how I currently feel .... the only thing that may give America back it's pride is a horse....maybe that horse will show up tomorrow in Kentucky

Wonder horse who gave a nation back its pride

His breeders wrote him off. A trader bought him by accident. Now the world's fastest race-horse is the talk of Hungary, reports Daniel McLaughlin

As Gabriella Jesensky steps towards the paddock rail with a rosy apple for her favourite horse, a black-clad security guard blocks her path. It is not just any nag rolling in the dirt and kicking up huge clouds of ochre dust behind him. This is Overdose, perhaps the fastest – if not the prettiest – horse in the world, and a horse carrying the hopes of the Hungarian nation.

Bought almost by accident at a sale three years ago in England for just £2,100, Overdose is now worth millions after winning all 12 of his races in stunning fashion. He is credited with revitalising not only Hungary's ancient equestrian tradition, but the spirit of a country wearied by its political and economic woes.

Last weekend, on the heels of a government collapse, the announcement of a harsh austerity budget and predictions of the worst recession since the fall of communism, Overdose streaked to victory at Kincsem Park in Budapest, the country's last surviving racecourse.

About 20,000 people flocked to watch him – more than 20 times the usual attendance and thousands more than its official capacity – and laid bets with such abandon that the 30-year-old bookmaking system collapsed under the strain. Overdose broke the course record on his way to the finishing post, although the antiquated timing system also seized up on the big occasion.

www.independent.co.uk/new...ck-its-pride-1674010.html

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: robnoel (#77)

I don't know how we got to the Derby, but I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#76)

The white man's burden.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-01   21:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Jethro Tull, All (#68)

Please address your bitch to "guys".

Yeah. Wasn't throwing that in your face. I apologize if it seemed that way.

You asked a good question: "What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?"

The answer is, in my book, absolutely nothing. Point was these leftists are ready to drop the strawman argument on a moment's notice.

When "guys" say edgy stuff, they feed the beast. The next thing you know, you're arguing about whether talk show hosts should here should be held to the same standards as talk show hosts in Rwanda.

The argument should be that you and I have the right to say anything we want to that doesn't defame or materially damage someone else. End of story. It's non- negotiable. This isn't Europe or Rwanda or any other damned place.

The reality though is that when "guys" say "nigger" or "genocide illegals" on this forum, they hand these bastards a weapon that they will not fail to use.

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randge  posted on  2009-05-01   21:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine (#71)

A satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize Catholic Church

Does that quote now makes sense?....he also said... Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?

Thanks for asking :-)

Feel-good story of Tom McCarthy, General Quarters, rides into Kentucky Derby

LOUISVILLE - My high school biology teacher, Mr. Mitnick, gave me a tongue-lashing I've never forgotten, cut me up and down like one of his precious little frogs. Tom McCarthy, who taught the same subject, comes close to erasing that memory when he carries on about General Quarters, the important horse in his barn, the only horse.

The 75-1/2-year-old owner-trainer-grandpappy-babysitter is the Derby's best prerace story. General Quarters may not be the best horse but he shouldn't be overlooked. Which is what McCarthy did when he first had a chance to fill his one-horse barn.

His busiest year he was 0-for-22. And came into this year zip-for-everything since a single win in 2006.

It's sadder than the economy. Until you hit the Churchill Downs backstretch, Barn 37, where McCarthy is canoodling with and bathing the 3-year-old he could have sold for several million not too many weeks ago. He won't reveal the exact figures.

"Very decent offers," he said, "but I promised I wouldn't say how much. Over a million? Oh, yes, but I want to take him all the way if I can. No ifs, ands or buts. At this point in my life I don't need an awful lot of money. At my age, and being from Louisville, I'll probably never have another chance at the Kentucky Derby. You just don't sell a dream."

www.nydailynews.com/sport..._into_kentucky_derby.html

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: randge (#80)

The reality though is that when "guys" say "nigger" or "genocide illegals" on this forum, they hand these bastards a weapon that they will not fail to use.

Thanks you made my point

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: randge (#80)

Gotcha randge, it's all good. Peace.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   22:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: robnoel (#82)

A truly lovely story. I hope some writer/director noticed like we did.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   22:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: robnoel (#81)

I may detest what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it-- Voltaire.

it made sense to me in the first place. that's why i quoted it. it isn't exclusive to speech about religion.

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christine  posted on  2009-05-01   22:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Jethro Tull (#85)

Everyone has now noticed...he was 20-1 this morning right now joint favorite at 5-1 ...I bet him a few months back at 70-1 :-)

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine (#86)

Religion was the bases for everything the founders did ....and were very influenced by the thinking of Burke and Voltaire..up to and including personal responsibility when it came to speech

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: robnoel (#87)

I bet him a few months back at 70-1 :-)

Keep that crystal ball polished. Good call!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   22:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#89)

No crystal ball... every year I bet on all the grey horses entered into the derby when future waging opens....on a more serious point this is what American "so called conservatives" have given us as I said before I don't blame the liberals I blame Rush etc

Obama revelling in U.S. power unseen in decades By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Barack Obama is revelling in presidential power and influence unseen in Washington for decades.

Barely 100 days in office, the U.S. president and his Democratic Party have firm control over the White House and Congress and the ability to push through ambitious plans.

Now, with the coming retirement of a Supreme Court justice clearing the way for him to appoint a successor, Obama already is assured a legacy at the top of all three branches of government -- executive, legislative and judicial.

On the corporate front, the federal government's pumping of billions of dollars in bailout money into banks and auto companies has given Obama the power to force an overhaul in those industries, a remarkable intervention in capitalist industries by the state.

Americans are giving him leeway as well. His job approval ratings are well over 60 percent, giving him political capital to undertake big challenges.

His political opponents, the Republicans, are in disarray, reduced in numbers and engaged in an internal struggle over how to recover from devastating election losses in 2006 and last year.

Experts speak of Obama in the same league as such transformational presidents as Democrat Franklin Roosevelt, who led the United States through the Great Depression and World War Two, and Republican Ronald Reagan, who led the country to victory in the Cold War.

"I cannot in my memory remember a time when a president of the United States has had more influence,"

uk.reuters.com/article/mo...ews/idUKTRE5406CF20090501

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Deasy, prefrontal vortex, jethro tull, robnoel, all (#75) (Edited)

At the time I wanted intervention, myself. I would say otherwise today. Our own people are slipping beneath the waves of history, in part due to their false sense of noblesse oblige.

Excellent comment. I would use the term selfus immolatus to describe (especially white) ameriKa. The ideal of sacrificing our own children to "save the world" may be an altruistic goal on paper, however, altruism accomplishes nothing when our progeny (and the future) are destroyed in third world cesspools because aliens (or some warped religious ideals) mean more than our own children. Our sons should not die in third world hellholes for a "feel- good" agenda. Ever. Again.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-05-02   1:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: robnoel, all (#90)

"I cannot in my memory remember a time when a president of the United States the Hammer and Sickle has had more influence,"

FIXED

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2009-05-02   2:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#1)

is boortz a Freeper?

You really need to read the Wiki page about him to believe it.

He began years ago by supporting GA Gov. Lester Maddox, and claims to be a Libertarian who supports the Patriot Act!

"Political schizophrenic" is the best I can offer to describe him.

Perhaps he was chosen as the Southern operative in the Bob Grant-Joe Pyne-Rush Limburger tradition in order to occupy the extremist position so the puppeteers could establish the limitations of "acceptable thought and speech in America."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-05-02   3:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Jethro Tull, christine, twentytwelve (#0)

don't know if this article has been posted.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30467300/ Amid swine flu outbreak, racism goes viral Anti-immigrant hatred spreads on talk radio, Web sites

By Brian Alexander msnbc.com contributor updated 9:46 a.m. PT, Fri., May 1, 2009

“No contact anywhere with an illegal alien!” conservative talk show host Michael Savage advised his U.S. listeners this week on how to avoid the swine flu. “And that starts in the restaurants" where he said, you “don’t know if they wipe their behinds with their hands!”

And Thursday, Boston talk radio host Jay Severin was suspended after calling Mexican immigrants "criminalians" during a discussion of swine flu and saying that emergency rooms had become "essentially condos for Mexicans."

That’s tepid compared to some of the xenophobic reactions spreading like an emerging virus across the Internet. “This disgusting blight is because MEXICANS ARE PIGS!” an anonymous poster ranted on the “prison planet” forum, part of radio host and columnist Alex Jones’ Web site.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
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Artisan  posted on  2009-05-02   6:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#30)

this doesn't even sound like you!

Neither does this:

If it were not for these "dick heads" America would not of have declared a "war on terror" or passed the "Patriot Act".

That is an uneducated American bastardization of the the language.


Beware!
This guy may be prowling 4um:

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Critter  posted on  2009-05-02   7:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Critter (#95)

Thanks moron

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-02   9:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#91)

Our sons should not die in third world hellholes for a "feel- good" agenda. Ever. Again.

There you go talking sense again.

At least there will never be a Hutu or Tutsi Lobby.

Everything lasts and everything ends. Longer than our children could ever imagine, faster than we could ever imagine. Children are the stuff of life; god was right to deny us immortality.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-02   9:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Artisan (#94)

No, I haven't seen that, thanks. IMO, this flu should be called the Mexican flu, just as the 1918 flu was called the Spanish flu. Points of origin are important for purposes of reducing the spread. I'm also not surprised the Internet, along with talk radio, is a target of the PC-Nazis. They're after our guns, speech and eventual freedom. As a side note to all this 'racism', *my* life experience has taught me that within each race a majority exists who thinks their own race is superior to that of others. I'll let others explain why or what that phenomena is, but as I say, that's been my experience and I'm fine with it. Government officials are also fine with it, as long as the group showing overt pride is from a minority class and not from a Northern European one.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-02   9:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Jethro Tull (#98)

I'll let others explain why or what that phenomena is

It's called "exceptionalism" usually promoted by those who think they are "Gods chosen"

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-02   10:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: robnoel (#64)

Voltaire was impressed by Britain's Constitutional Monarchy in comparison to the French Absolute Monarchy, as well as the country's support of the freedoms of speech and religion. You over simplify.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-02   11:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ferret Mike (#100)

For the record after doing a little late nite research Voltaire never said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,this was penned by his biography Evelyn Beatrice Hall,Hall said that she paraphrased Voltaire's words in his "Treatise on Toleration," which includes such thoughts as:"Not only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief life those who do not think the way we do, but I do not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare their eternal damnation".

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-02   11:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: robnoel (#101)

Essay on Tolerance — "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too."

Thanks for the interesting factoid. Above is a Voltaire quote said to have prompted this paraphrase.

Regardless of who penned these exact words, I agree it is in keeping with Voltaire's beliefs, and it is something I believe in very deeply.

If one cannot respect others enough to respect their free speech rights, then why should anyone take such a person seriously? I sure don't.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-02   11:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

If one cannot respect others enough to respect their free speech rights, then why should anyone take such a person seriously? I sure don't.

On the matter of "respect" when it comes what Jay said I defer to “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-02   12:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: robnoel (#103)

Heh, which would mean Afrikaners should be sequestered in remote 'homelands' and given internal 'passports' and no citizenship as they did to others in the Nationalist Party Apartheid days.

They should also be given schools that teach in a tongue not native to them without the capacity to educate all of them in an inadequate fashion. The days of their day in the sun were despicable and I am glad that it is over. (And I presume you realize I am making a point, not stating an advocacy.)

Amandla Awethu


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-02   12:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Ferret Mike (#104)

Could make the same point in relation to American Indians....

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-02   12:43:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Ferret Mike (#102)

If one cannot respect others enough to respect their free speech rights...

If one respects and supports the Anti-Defamation League (as you have on many occasions), one has to wonder at your supposed love of free speech.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-02   12:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: robnoel (#105)

You know it. Custer had it coming.

Where do you think I learned the empathy needed to know the truth about Apartheid. Both the south of Africa and the Americas suffer from the application of doctrines such as that laid out in the Doctrine of Discovery.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-02   12:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: bluegrass (#106)

Hi bait boy. How's it shaking?


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-02   12:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Ferret Mike (#108)

Are you ready to throw in the towel on the ADL yet or are you just going to keep stonewalling?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-02   12:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: bluegrass (#109)

As far as I am concerned, you engender no dialog or desire to converse in using this tired vehicle to try to bait.

In other words, fuck off.


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