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Title: Racists Using Swine Flu As Excuse to Promote Hate
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/new ... -swine-flu-excuse-promote-hate
Published: Apr 30, 2009
Author: Shani Saxon-Parrish
Post Date: 2009-04-30 20:05:37 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 4327
Comments: 133

The frenzy over swine flu has spurred another potentially deadly outbreak: racist hate-mongering against Mexicans and Mexican-American immigrants. Conservative journalists and scared American citizens are looking for someone, anything to blame for this still small global outbreak. With no proof to support his beliefs, California radio jock Michael Savage said, "Make no mistake about it: Illegal aliens are the carriers of the new strain of human-swine avian flu from Mexico." He also added that it would be a good idea to avoid contact with illegal immigrants, insisting that people who eat out are "morons who eat in restaurants with illegals all over the kitchen." Fox News columnist Michelle Malkin also weighed in with frightening commentary: "I've blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration."

Rampant misinformation has even motivated the ALIPAC, or Americans For Legal Immigration, to ask Congress to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border in order to contain the swine flu. And talk show host Neal Boortz has gone so far as to suggest Islamic terrorists created the deadly flu strain and introduced it to Mexicans as a sneaky way to spread it to the U.S. "What better way to sneak a virus into this country than to give it to Mexicans....then spread a rumor that there are construction jobs here, and there they come," Boortz stated.

Perhaps the scariest thing is that these ignorant people with large platforms aren’t feeling any repercussions from their comments. Why are certain public figures allowed to be so openly racist and hateful? Is it because many people find an odd comfort in placing the blame on a group they consider to be outsiders? Members of the Latino community are marginalized enough as it is, and this level of hate-talk is only making things worse. "It's a virus. Any of us can get it,” says Lalo Rios, a radio DJ in Reno, Nevada. “Closing the borders is not going to help. Pointing the finger at certain groups isn't going to help anything either.” (1 image)

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#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Hi, Y'all~

The Swine Flue is a valid reason why this nation should practice genocide. The sick wetbacks cross into our country with their diseases, poverty, crime and corruption, and we should give them one of two options: Leave or be buried here. That is my idea of immigration reform.

Do I hear an amen?

RO

ReallyOrnery  posted on  2009-05-01   4:37:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: ReallyOrnery (#7)

I guess two people can read the same article and come to different conclusion

What I read is more about how bankrupt "conservative" talk show hosts are, there is no question that illegals bring diseases, poverty, crime and corruption however as usual these morons are just looking for someone to hate rather than trying to figure out if the flu scare a manufactured crises.

If it were not for these "dick heads" America would not of declared a "war on terror" or passed the "Patriot Act".Conservatives my ass they collectively have destroyed any hope that those that hold true conservative values will ever be elected again

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   6:52:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robnoel (#8)

".Conservatives my ass they collectively have destroyed any hope that those that hold true conservative values will ever be elected again

I'm not sure we have ever had a 'true conservative' elected in this nation, and the prospects of never having one elected is fine by me. They can stick they religion, sexual morals, and hypocrisy where the sun doesn't shine. Give me a small government guy, one who lives by the Golden Rule, and I'll be just fine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   7:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull (#10) (Edited)

They can stick they religion, sexual morals, and hypocrisy where the sun doesn't shine.

You talking about Republicans not conservatives the Rush Hanniety wing if you will....what these morans don't get if one is going preach moral values you better have a degree of morals that exceeds expectations of those of us with average moral values anything less won't fly

Heres another one wish it would happen to most if not all those Bush butt kissers

Severin suspended for comments about Mexican immigrants

Jay Severin, the fiery right wing talk show host on Boston's WTKK-FM radio station, was suspended yesterday after calling Mexican immigrants "criminaliens," "primitives," "leeches," and exporters of "women with mustaches and VD," among other incendiary comments.

Heidi Raphael, a spokeswoman for the station, said Severin had been suspended indefinitely from his afternoon drive-time show. She declined to say which of his comments - made since an outbreak of swine flu was linked to Mexico in recent days - sparked the suspension.

www.boston.com/news/local...about_mexican_immigrants/

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   10:32:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robnoel (#16)

Severin

I heard about Severin. He should have known better since his check was cut by a corporation that values PC over brutal honesty, however crude.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   11:07:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#19)

A reading of the founders intent on the 1st amendment was responsible speech not any speech

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   12:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: robnoel (#26)

responsible speech

huh? what Severin said would fall under the category of hate speech, not irresponsible speech like yelling fire in a crowded room.

and how is it you've interpreted the founders meaning to be responsible speech? this doesn't even sound like you!

christine  posted on  2009-05-01   14:15:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#30)

History is a bitch blaspheme laws in America were only overturned in 1972

Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts General Laws states, for example:

Section 36. Whoever willfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.

The history of Maryland's blasphemy statutes suggests that even into the 1930s, the First Amendment was not recognized as preventing states from passing such laws. An 1879 codification of Maryland statutes prohibited blasphemy:

Art. 72, sec. 189. If any person, by writing or speaking, shall blaspheme or curse God, or shall write or utter any profane words of and concerning our Saviour, Jesus Christ, or of and concerning the Trinity, or any of the persons thereof, he shall, on conviction, be fined not more than one hundred dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both fined and imprisoned as aforesaid, at the discretion of the court.

According to the marginalia, this statute was adopted in 1819, and a similar law dates back to 1723. In 1904, the statute was still on the books at Art. 27, sec. 20, unaltered in text. As late as 1939, this statute was still the law of Maryland. But in 1972, in Maryland v. Irving K. West, the Maryland Court of Appeals (the state's highest court) declared the blasphemy law unconstitutional.[19]

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   14:57:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robnoel (#34)

these are state statute examples really having nothing to do with the 1stA. further, they reference blasphemy. what has that to do with "responsible" speech or more specifically Severin's calling illegal mexicans criminaliens and leeches? i don't see the semblance.

christine  posted on  2009-05-01   16:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#39)

Severin like Rush and company cannot make a legit argument without getting into the gutter and will be the reason "conservatives" will spend the next 40 years out of power and as aside are responsible for the recent hate crime bill as for the founders and free speech I suggest you re-read the anti federalist papers to see the arguments over free speech....

http://books.google.com/books?id...=result&resnum=4#PPA63,M1

And if you support Severin and his elk's free speech rights than I take it you also supported the radio jocks in Rwanda who were responsible for the killing 800,000 Hutus ......being in the business of talk radio I take my responsibilities very seriously and attempt to educate and inform... not to mislead and promote xenophobia.

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   18:13:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: robnoel (#40)

http://books.google.com/books?id...=result&resnum=4#PPA63,M1

From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."

christine  posted on  2009-05-01   19:44:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#51)

From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."

Yes they left it to states ergo the 10th Amendment and hence my reference to blaspheme laws.... as for Jay lets not forget "words have consequences" this what Jay said

"So now, in addition to venereal disease and the other leading exports of Mexico -- women with mustaches and VD -- now we have swine flu," Severin said this week. During a conversation with a caller complaining about immigrants receiving health care, Severin said emergency rooms had "become essentially condos for Mexicans," and blamed what he deemed the "world's lowest primitives" for the recent outbreak. "It's millions of leeches from a primitive country come here to leech off you and, with it, they are ruining the schools, the hospitals, and a lot of life in America," he said.

Not much difference to how events unfolded in Rwanda

Rwanda genocide journalists sentenced

Thursday, December 4, 2003

NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) -- Two Rwandan journalists were jailed for life and a third was sentenced to 35 years Wednesday for fanning the flames of a 1994 genocide that killed an estimated 800,000 people, a U.N. tribunal spokesman said.

The verdict marks the end of a landmark three-year trial during which the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Tanzania heard how the media played a major role in inciting extremists from the Hutu majority to carry out the 100-day slaughter of ethnic Tutsis and politically moderate Hutus.

Ferdinand Nahimana, a founding member of Radio Television Libres des Mille Collines (RTLM), was sentenced to life in prison along with Hassan Ngeze, owner and editor of the Hutu extremist newspaper Kangura.

Life in prison is the most severe penalty that can be handed down by the tribunal.

"Nahimana chose a path of genocide and betrayed the trust placed in him as an intellectual and a leader," said Presiding Judge Navanethem Pillay. "He caused the deaths of thousands of civilians without a firearm."

The third defendant, Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza, who was also a founder of RTLM and public affairs director in Rwanda's Foreign Affairs Ministry, was sentenced to 35 years in prison.

"RTLM broadcasts was a drumbeat calling on listeners to take action against Tutsis," Judge Pillay said. "RTLM spread petrol throughout the country little by little, so that one day it would be able to set fire to the whole country," he said.

www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/af.../rwanda.journalists.reut/

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   20:31:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: robnoel (#54)

What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   20:37:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#56)

"words have consequences"......the hate law is just cause and effect...much like Sept 11th....American conservatives have been feed a bill of goods by its so called radio jocks....I don't blame liberals for doing what they do I do however blame the likes of Jay etc for giving them the excuse

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   20:47:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: robnoel (#59)

Do me a favor, define conservative.

The reason I ask is simple; put 10 people in a room and you'll get 10 different answers. All this because there has been a steady dilution of the philosophy by those who vote for the less of two evils. The movement went from an early Buckley, Barry Goldwater and all the paleos, to this pile of crap identifying themselves as such. So when you mention "conservative" and then plug in Hannity, Limbaugh and whoever the fuck this Jay guy is, you make no sense to anyone who follows politics to even a small degree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   20:56:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)

Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:04:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: robnoel (#65)

Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it

And therefore Hannity, Limbaugh, and the Jay fuck who has your panties twisted do not fit the definition. So please, stop calling them "conservatives."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)

I have often referred to them as "so called conservatives"...and my "panties have been twisted" for the past 8 years for them spewing their daily so called "conservative" values

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:21:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: robnoel (#73)

May I suggest you drop "conservative" completely? Call them "so called" if that works for you.

**********

Program Excerpt 1: The Warning An informant tells Gen. Dallaire about Hutu extremists' extermination plans. But Kofi Annan's U.N. peacekeeping office is skeptical; Annan tells Dallaire not to raid arms caches and avoid using any force. The extremists are now confident the U.N. won't stand in their way. On April 6th the Rwanda president's plane is shot down. The killing begins. Dallaire again requests U.N. guidance and again is told to avoid armed conflict.

HERE

FYI, for months during that slaughter, I faxed my congressman, Jim Greenwood and Senator Helms urging them to intervene in the slaughter. Not one of more than (I guess over a hundred) faxes was answered. I gave a shit and your Africa and My America didn't.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:28:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Jethro Tull (#74)

The power of radio... most if not all of the GDP (general dumb public) associate Rush and company as "conservative" and is the reason true conservatives have now been relegated to the dust bin of history....and if you really want to know how I currently feel .... the only thing that may give America back it's pride is a horse....maybe that horse will show up tomorrow in Kentucky

Wonder horse who gave a nation back its pride

His breeders wrote him off. A trader bought him by accident. Now the world's fastest race-horse is the talk of Hungary, reports Daniel McLaughlin

As Gabriella Jesensky steps towards the paddock rail with a rosy apple for her favourite horse, a black-clad security guard blocks her path. It is not just any nag rolling in the dirt and kicking up huge clouds of ochre dust behind him. This is Overdose, perhaps the fastest – if not the prettiest – horse in the world, and a horse carrying the hopes of the Hungarian nation.

Bought almost by accident at a sale three years ago in England for just £2,100, Overdose is now worth millions after winning all 12 of his races in stunning fashion. He is credited with revitalising not only Hungary's ancient equestrian tradition, but the spirit of a country wearied by its political and economic woes.

Last weekend, on the heels of a government collapse, the announcement of a harsh austerity budget and predictions of the worst recession since the fall of communism, Overdose streaked to victory at Kincsem Park in Budapest, the country's last surviving racecourse.

About 20,000 people flocked to watch him – more than 20 times the usual attendance and thousands more than its official capacity – and laid bets with such abandon that the 30-year-old bookmaking system collapsed under the strain. Overdose broke the course record on his way to the finishing post, although the antiquated timing system also seized up on the big occasion.

www.independent.co.uk/new...ck-its-pride-1674010.html

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: robnoel (#77)

I don't know how we got to the Derby, but I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   21:49:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

I like the story about the HS principal. Is his horse running?

Thanks for asking :-)

Feel-good story of Tom McCarthy, General Quarters, rides into Kentucky Derby

LOUISVILLE - My high school biology teacher, Mr. Mitnick, gave me a tongue-lashing I've never forgotten, cut me up and down like one of his precious little frogs. Tom McCarthy, who taught the same subject, comes close to erasing that memory when he carries on about General Quarters, the important horse in his barn, the only horse.

The 75-1/2-year-old owner-trainer-grandpappy-babysitter is the Derby's best prerace story. General Quarters may not be the best horse but he shouldn't be overlooked. Which is what McCarthy did when he first had a chance to fill his one-horse barn.

His busiest year he was 0-for-22. And came into this year zip-for-everything since a single win in 2006.

It's sadder than the economy. Until you hit the Churchill Downs backstretch, Barn 37, where McCarthy is canoodling with and bathing the 3-year-old he could have sold for several million not too many weeks ago. He won't reveal the exact figures.

"Very decent offers," he said, "but I promised I wouldn't say how much. Over a million? Oh, yes, but I want to take him all the way if I can. No ifs, ands or buts. At this point in my life I don't need an awful lot of money. At my age, and being from Louisville, I'll probably never have another chance at the Kentucky Derby. You just don't sell a dream."

www.nydailynews.com/sport..._into_kentucky_derby.html

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   21:59:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: robnoel (#82)

A truly lovely story. I hope some writer/director noticed like we did.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   22:06:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Jethro Tull (#85)

Everyone has now noticed...he was 20-1 this morning right now joint favorite at 5-1 ...I bet him a few months back at 70-1 :-)

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:34:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: robnoel (#87)

I bet him a few months back at 70-1 :-)

Keep that crystal ball polished. Good call!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-01   22:46:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#89)

No crystal ball... every year I bet on all the grey horses entered into the derby when future waging opens....on a more serious point this is what American "so called conservatives" have given us as I said before I don't blame the liberals I blame Rush etc

Obama revelling in U.S. power unseen in decades By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Barack Obama is revelling in presidential power and influence unseen in Washington for decades.

Barely 100 days in office, the U.S. president and his Democratic Party have firm control over the White House and Congress and the ability to push through ambitious plans.

Now, with the coming retirement of a Supreme Court justice clearing the way for him to appoint a successor, Obama already is assured a legacy at the top of all three branches of government -- executive, legislative and judicial.

On the corporate front, the federal government's pumping of billions of dollars in bailout money into banks and auto companies has given Obama the power to force an overhaul in those industries, a remarkable intervention in capitalist industries by the state.

Americans are giving him leeway as well. His job approval ratings are well over 60 percent, giving him political capital to undertake big challenges.

His political opponents, the Republicans, are in disarray, reduced in numbers and engaged in an internal struggle over how to recover from devastating election losses in 2006 and last year.

Experts speak of Obama in the same league as such transformational presidents as Democrat Franklin Roosevelt, who led the United States through the Great Depression and World War Two, and Republican Ronald Reagan, who led the country to victory in the Cold War.

"I cannot in my memory remember a time when a president of the United States has had more influence,"

uk.reuters.com/article/mo...ews/idUKTRE5406CF20090501

robnoel  posted on  2009-05-01   22:56:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#92. To: robnoel, all (#90)

"I cannot in my memory remember a time when a president of the United States the Hammer and Sickle has had more influence,"

FIXED

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