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Title: Racists Using Swine Flu As Excuse to Promote Hate
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URL Source: http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/new ... -swine-flu-excuse-promote-hate
Published: Apr 30, 2009
Author: Shani Saxon-Parrish
Post Date: 2009-04-30 20:05:37 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 4325
Comments: 133
The frenzy over swine flu has spurred another potentially deadly outbreak: racist hate-mongering against Mexicans and Mexican-American immigrants. Conservative journalists and scared American citizens are looking for someone, anything to blame for this still small global outbreak. With no proof to support his beliefs, California radio jock Michael Savage said, "Make no mistake about it: Illegal aliens are the carriers of the new strain of human-swine avian flu from Mexico." He also added that it would be a good idea to avoid contact with illegal immigrants, insisting that people who eat out are "morons who eat in restaurants with illegals all over the kitchen." Fox News columnist Michelle Malkin also weighed in with frightening commentary: "I've blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration." Rampant misinformation has even motivated the ALIPAC, or Americans For Legal Immigration, to ask Congress to shut down the U.S.-Mexico border in order to contain the swine flu. And talk show host Neal Boortz has gone so far as to suggest Islamic terrorists created the deadly flu strain and introduced it to Mexicans as a sneaky way to spread it to the U.S. "What better way to sneak a virus into this country than to give it to Mexicans....then spread a rumor that there are construction jobs here, and there they come," Boortz stated. Perhaps the scariest thing is that these ignorant people with large platforms aren’t feeling any repercussions from their comments. Why are certain public figures allowed to be so openly racist and hateful? Is it because many people find an odd comfort in placing the blame on a group they consider to be outsiders? Members of the Latino community are marginalized enough as it is, and this level of hate-talk is only making things worse. "It's a virus. Any of us can get it,” says Lalo Rios, a radio DJ in Reno, Nevada. “Closing the borders is not going to help. Pointing the finger at certain groups isn't going to help anything either.”
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#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Hi, Y'all~ The Swine Flue is a valid reason why this nation should practice genocide. The sick wetbacks cross into our country with their diseases, poverty, crime and corruption, and we should give them one of two options: Leave or be buried here. That is my idea of immigration reform. Do I hear an amen? RO
What I read is more about how bankrupt "conservative" talk show hosts are, there is no question that illegals bring diseases, poverty, crime and corruption however as usual these morons are just looking for someone to hate rather than trying to figure out if the flu scare a manufactured crises. If it were not for these "dick heads" America would not of declared a "war on terror" or passed the "Patriot Act".Conservatives my ass they collectively have destroyed any hope that those that hold true conservative values will ever be elected again
I'm not sure we have ever had a 'true conservative' elected in this nation, and the prospects of never having one elected is fine by me. They can stick they religion, sexual morals, and hypocrisy where the sun doesn't shine. Give me a small government guy, one who lives by the Golden Rule, and I'll be just fine.
You talking about Republicans not conservatives the Rush Hanniety wing if you will....what these morans don't get if one is going preach moral values you better have a degree of morals that exceeds expectations of those of us with average moral values anything less won't fly Heres another one wish it would happen to most if not all those Bush butt kissers Severin suspended for comments about Mexican immigrants Jay Severin, the fiery right wing talk show host on Boston's WTKK-FM radio station, was suspended yesterday after calling Mexican immigrants "criminaliens," "primitives," "leeches," and exporters of "women with mustaches and VD," among other incendiary comments. Heidi Raphael, a spokeswoman for the station, said Severin had been suspended indefinitely from his afternoon drive-time show. She declined to say which of his comments - made since an outbreak of swine flu was linked to Mexico in recent days - sparked the suspension.
I heard about Severin. He should have known better since his check was cut by a corporation that values PC over brutal honesty, however crude.
A reading of the founders intent on the 1st amendment was responsible speech not any speech
huh? what Severin said would fall under the category of hate speech, not irresponsible speech like yelling fire in a crowded room. and how is it you've interpreted the founders meaning to be responsible speech? this doesn't even sound like you!
History is a bitch blaspheme laws in America were only overturned in 1972 Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts General Laws states, for example: Section 36. Whoever willfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior. The history of Maryland's blasphemy statutes suggests that even into the 1930s, the First Amendment was not recognized as preventing states from passing such laws. An 1879 codification of Maryland statutes prohibited blasphemy: Art. 72, sec. 189. If any person, by writing or speaking, shall blaspheme or curse God, or shall write or utter any profane words of and concerning our Saviour, Jesus Christ, or of and concerning the Trinity, or any of the persons thereof, he shall, on conviction, be fined not more than one hundred dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both fined and imprisoned as aforesaid, at the discretion of the court. According to the marginalia, this statute was adopted in 1819, and a similar law dates back to 1723. In 1904, the statute was still on the books at Art. 27, sec. 20, unaltered in text. As late as 1939, this statute was still the law of Maryland. But in 1972, in Maryland v. Irving K. West, the Maryland Court of Appeals (the state's highest court) declared the blasphemy law unconstitutional.[19]
these are state statute examples really having nothing to do with the 1stA. further, they reference blasphemy. what has that to do with "responsible" speech or more specifically Severin's calling illegal mexicans criminaliens and leeches? i don't see the semblance.
Severin like Rush and company cannot make a legit argument without getting into the gutter and will be the reason "conservatives" will spend the next 40 years out of power and as aside are responsible for the recent hate crime bill as for the founders and free speech I suggest you re-read the anti federalist papers to see the arguments over free speech.... http://books.google.com/books?id...=result&resnum=4#PPA63,M1 And if you support Severin and his elk's free speech rights than I take it you also supported the radio jocks in Rwanda who were responsible for the killing 800,000 Hutus ......being in the business of talk radio I take my responsibilities very seriously and attempt to educate and inform... not to mislead and promote xenophobia.
From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."
Yes they left it to states ergo the 10th Amendment and hence my reference to blaspheme laws.... as for Jay lets not forget "words have consequences" this what Jay said "So now, in addition to venereal disease and the other leading exports of Mexico -- women with mustaches and VD -- now we have swine flu," Severin said this week. During a conversation with a caller complaining about immigrants receiving health care, Severin said emergency rooms had "become essentially condos for Mexicans," and blamed what he deemed the "world's lowest primitives" for the recent outbreak. "It's millions of leeches from a primitive country come here to leech off you and, with it, they are ruining the schools, the hospitals, and a lot of life in America," he said. Not much difference to how events unfolded in Rwanda Rwanda genocide journalists sentenced Thursday, December 4, 2003 NAIROBI, Kenya (Reuters) -- Two Rwandan journalists were jailed for life and a third was sentenced to 35 years Wednesday for fanning the flames of a 1994 genocide that killed an estimated 800,000 people, a U.N. tribunal spokesman said. The verdict marks the end of a landmark three-year trial during which the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda in Tanzania heard how the media played a major role in inciting extremists from the Hutu majority to carry out the 100-day slaughter of ethnic Tutsis and politically moderate Hutus. Ferdinand Nahimana, a founding member of Radio Television Libres des Mille Collines (RTLM), was sentenced to life in prison along with Hassan Ngeze, owner and editor of the Hutu extremist newspaper Kangura. Life in prison is the most severe penalty that can be handed down by the tribunal. "Nahimana chose a path of genocide and betrayed the trust placed in him as an intellectual and a leader," said Presiding Judge Navanethem Pillay. "He caused the deaths of thousands of civilians without a firearm." The third defendant, Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza, who was also a founder of RTLM and public affairs director in Rwanda's Foreign Affairs Ministry, was sentenced to 35 years in prison. "RTLM broadcasts was a drumbeat calling on listeners to take action against Tutsis," Judge Pillay said. "RTLM spread petrol throughout the country little by little, so that one day it would be able to set fire to the whole country," he said.
What in god's holy name does the Rwanda slaughter have to do with draconian hate speech law?
"words have consequences"......the hate law is just cause and effect...much like Sept 11th....American conservatives have been feed a bill of goods by its so called radio jocks....I don't blame liberals for doing what they do I do however blame the likes of Jay etc for giving them the excuse
Do me a favor, define conservative. The reason I ask is simple; put 10 people in a room and you'll get 10 different answers. All this because there has been a steady dilution of the philosophy by those who vote for the less of two evils. The movement went from an early Buckley, Barry Goldwater and all the paleos, to this pile of crap identifying themselves as such. So when you mention "conservative" and then plug in Hannity, Limbaugh and whoever the fuck this Jay guy is, you make no sense to anyone who follows politics to even a small degree.
Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it
And therefore Hannity, Limbaugh, and the Jay fuck who has your panties twisted do not fit the definition. So please, stop calling them "conservatives."
I have often referred to them as "so called conservatives"...and my "panties have been twisted" for the past 8 years for them spewing their daily so called "conservative" values
May I suggest you drop "conservative" completely? Call them "so called" if that works for you. ********** Program Excerpt 1: The Warning An informant tells Gen. Dallaire about Hutu extremists' extermination plans. But Kofi Annan's U.N. peacekeeping office is skeptical; Annan tells Dallaire not to raid arms caches and avoid using any force. The extremists are now confident the U.N. won't stand in their way. On April 6th the Rwanda president's plane is shot down. The killing begins. Dallaire again requests U.N. guidance and again is told to avoid armed conflict. FYI, for months during that slaughter, I faxed my congressman, Jim Greenwood and Senator Helms urging them to intervene in the slaughter. Not one of more than (I guess over a hundred) faxes was answered. I gave a shit and your Africa and My America didn't.
I see your concern for the Tutsi's is in stark contrast with your other "America first" sentiments. At the time I wanted intervention, myself. I would say otherwise today. Our own people are slipping beneath the waves of history, in part due to their false sense of noblesse oblige.
Excellent comment. I would use the term selfus immolatus to describe (especially white) ameriKa. The ideal of sacrificing our own children to "save the world" may be an altruistic goal on paper, however, altruism accomplishes nothing when our progeny (and the future) are destroyed in third world cesspools because aliens (or some warped religious ideals) mean more than our own children. Our sons should not die in third world hellholes for a "feel- good" agenda. Ever. Again.
#97. To: IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#91)
There you go talking sense again. At least there will never be a Hutu or Tutsi Lobby.
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#8. To: ReallyOrnery (#7)
I guess two people can read the same article and come to different conclusion
#10. To: robnoel (#8)
".Conservatives my ass they collectively have destroyed any hope that those that hold true conservative values will ever be elected again
#16. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
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They can stick they religion, sexual morals, and hypocrisy where the sun doesn't shine.
#19. To: robnoel (#16)
Severin
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
#30. To: robnoel (#26)
responsible speech
#34. To: christine (#30)
#39. To: robnoel (#34)
#40. To: christine (#39)
#51. To: robnoel (#40)
http://books.google.com/books?id...=result&resnum=4#PPA63,M1
#54. To: christine (#51)
From your link: "In the end, there was no need to establish a single comprehensive theory. Both the fereralists and their opponents had an interest in leaving the matter vague and unresolved."
#56. To: robnoel (#54)
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#56)
#62. To: robnoel (#59)
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
#70. To: robnoel (#65)
Conservative means one that conserves in this instance to conserve the intent of the founders...a Republic if you can keep it
#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)
#74. To: robnoel (#73)
#75. To: Jethro Tull, robnoel (#74)
#91. To: Deasy, prefrontal vortex, jethro tull, robnoel, all (#75)
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At the time I wanted intervention, myself. I would say otherwise today. Our own people are slipping beneath the waves of history, in part due to their false sense of noblesse oblige.
Replies to Comment # 91. Our sons should not die in third world hellholes for a "feel- good" agenda. Ever. Again.
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