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Title: Grants Pass police arrest 10 after downtown fracas ('hate crimes' for conduct)
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URL Source: http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=10301362
Published: May 4, 2009
Author: AP
Post Date: 2009-05-04 20:10:21 by bluegrass
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GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) - Grants Pass police arrested 10 people, including six juveniles as young as 12, in a downtown brawl they say may have had white supremacist and neo-Nazi overtones. Lt. Bill Landis said the Saturday night fight involved up to 20 people, and broke out when someone yelled at three people riding by on bicycles. The fight eventually spread over a couple blocks, though no property damage was reported. Landis said some people were yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought against some of those arrested. He added that all seven police officers on duty, plus a few more, were needed to break things up. The Daily Courier newspaper reported police charged four young adults with riot and disorderly conduct.
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Welcome to Obama's Kikenstaat.
Actually, if you were from here, you would know that historically Grant's Pass is very racist and conservative in tone. The town's mascot is a concrete caveman, and in the early 20th century, no body of color walked around there alone. The KKK was actually very much part of the social scene there.
That has nothing to do with the fact that speech is being defined as a 'hate crime' in this case.
Nope, in this case, I'd bet you money, my opinion is provable.
So you're in favor of speech being classed as a hate crime. No surprise.
Nah, I actually don't believe their speech here should result in amplified charges and result in stiffer penalties. The powers that be down there should give the hate speech aspect of this a rest. You will never change how things are in Southwest Oregon with this tact. It is a counter productive way to go about things at best. So much for rash assumptions on your part.
You're a tireless proponent of free and unfettered speech.
I support the First Amendment after the manner of Hugo Black and William O. Douglas, yes. I support the KKK's right to protest, the right to racist and hateful speech by mullets in Grants Pass, or even Jacksonville, OR. ;-)
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#42)
Yet you appear to be in favor of 'hate crime' laws that include criminalizing speech. Make up your mind.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestLandis said some people were yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought against some of those arrested.
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I actually don't believe their speech here should result in amplified charges and result in stiffer penalties.
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