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Title: Grants Pass police arrest 10 after downtown fracas ('hate crimes' for conduct)
Source: ktvz.com
URL Source: http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=10301362
Published: May 4, 2009
Author: AP
Post Date: 2009-05-04 20:10:21 by bluegrass
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GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) - Grants Pass police arrested 10 people, including six juveniles as young as 12, in a downtown brawl they say may have had white supremacist and neo-Nazi overtones.

Lt. Bill Landis said the Saturday night fight involved up to 20 people, and broke out when someone yelled at three people riding by on bicycles. The fight eventually spread over a couple blocks, though no property damage was reported.

Landis said some people were yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought against some of those arrested. He added that all seven police officers on duty, plus a few more, were needed to break things up.

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#1. To: christine, pinguinite, Jethro Tull, randge, HOUNDDAWG, farmfriend, scrapper2, Lady X, Esso, DeaconBenjamin, bush_is_a_moonie, Cynicom, Rotara, Prefrontal Vortex, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Rupert_Pupkin, PSUSA, litus, wbales, Ferret Mike (#0)

Landis said some people were yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought against some of those arrested.

Welcome to Obama's Kikenstaat.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#0)

These things have to be nipped in the Steinkrug. So who got hurt? Who started it? If the situation was that illegals/blacks beat whites no one would hear about it. The system has stopped working for us, so the question is when is enough, enough?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-04   20:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull, bluegrass (#2)

The system has stopped working for us, so the question is when is enough, enough?

We passed that point a long time ago.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-04   20:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend, Jethro Tull (#3)

We can assume that no one was arrested for calling anyone 'whitey' and giving a black power salute.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#0)

Landis said some people were yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought against some of those arrested.

unbelievable. for words and gestures.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-04   20:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass, Jethro Tull (#4)

We can assume that no one was arrested for calling anyone 'whitey' and giving a black power salute.

When pigs fly and I don't mean swine flu.


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-04   20:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bluegrass (#1)

Actually, if you were from here, you would know that historically Grant's Pass is very racist and conservative in tone.

The town's mascot is a concrete caveman, and in the early 20th century, no body of color walked around there alone.

The KKK was actually very much part of the social scene there.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-04   20:31:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

That has nothing to do with the fact that speech is being defined as a 'hate crime' in this case.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#5)

F4um might be defined as a "hate crime" in the near future.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#6)

When pigs fly

You have committed a hate crime against pigs, comrade. Please report to the nearest ADL re-education camp.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I would be shocked, really really shocked if Grant's Pass had more then a few blacks living there.

Southwestern Oregon is an interesting place, they actively and aggressively attempted to wipe out Indians from that area. It was so bad, it was those who wanted to protect Indians who aggressively pushed to get them safely on a reservation down there.

I just asked a man I know who is here how many blacks he's seen in Grants Pass, and he said none.

Grant's Pass is hippie less, filled with tweekers, and people who like beer, guns and V8s. It is a white trash paradise.

He said people who think Medford is too liberal for them move to Grant's pass.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-04   20:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bluegrass (#8)

Nope, in this case, I'd bet you money, my opinion is provable.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-04   20:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

So you're in favor of speech being classed as a hate crime.

No surprise.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   20:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

It is a white trash paradise.

As opposed to a nigger filled slum.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-04   20:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluegrass (#0)

yelling racial slurs and giving the Nazi salute, which allowed for hate crime charges to be brought

Welcome to the Orwellian future....this is only going to get worse.

litus  posted on  2009-05-04   20:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, Deasy, farmfriend, christine, litus (#14)

FM: It is a white trash paradise.

JT: As opposed to a nigger filled slum.

Guess which one of our posters will be branded the hate criminal in Obamaland?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   21:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: bluegrass, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, Deasy, farmfriend, christine (#16)

Guess which one of our posters will be branded the hate criminal in Obamaland?

that's easy.

It won't be the ferret.

litus  posted on  2009-05-04   21:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: bluegrass, Ferret Mike please explain the rule (#16)

Young blacks call themselves nigger all the time here in this college town. Is it against some unwritten rule that I can't use the term as a white guy?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-04   21:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: bluegrass (#1)

Kikenstaat

Ask not what the kike can do for you...

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-04   21:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

Is it against some unwritten rule that I can't use the term as a white guy?

Actually it's probably pretty clearly written in the student handbook.

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-04   21:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#5)

unbelievable. for words and gestures.

Well it's not like you can just shout 'sacrificial fire!' in a movie theater.

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-04   21:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Prefrontal Vortex, Mikey (#20)

So the handbook would green light slurs when there black on black and black on white, but not white on black? Because that is the reality of the world in which we exist.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-04   21:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluegrass, Jethro Tull (#16)

Guess which one of our posters will be branded the hate criminal in Obamaland?

Is it still o.k. to be Unitarian? Everyone shall win and all shall have paradises? Including a white trash paradise and a nigger-filled paradise?

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-04   21:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

So the handbook would green light slurs when there black on black and black on white, but not white on black? Because that is the reality of the world in which we exist.

Technically it's a black light.

Just don't wear too much cotton.

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-04   21:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#23)

Yes! it's a perfectly legitimately request!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-05-04   21:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#23)

all shall have paradises?

but that is not the point.

If there is to be equality under the law, then there shall be no differentiation between persons; there shall be no laws made which give "special status" because of ones skin color(s), sexual choice, or language usage.

Certain exceptions must be made for those who are dependent upon others for their needs and protections against the perverted in society who would otherwise severely harm those who cannot protect themselves, such as infants and children.

litus  posted on  2009-05-04   21:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bluegrass, *Shooters*, *Music Club*, *libertarians*, *LEAP*, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *Humor-Weird News*, *Agriculture-Environment* ferret mike (#0)

obamanation ping so heres what i wantto know do we have to stand and sing the usa national anthem or the kenyion national anthem or 3rd choise the indonesion nation anthem at all sporting events and government functions where a national anthem will be played im confused as hell maybe ferret mike can help me on that since hes going to be bary/boracks lewinsky complete with president/king/dictator for lifes kneepads

but the sheiks would shriek and the barons would bellow if hemp was made legal...and people became mellow

freepatriot32  posted on  2009-05-04   22:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#19)

Ich Bin Ein Kikenstaadter.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-04   22:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: litus, bluegrass, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, Deasy, christine (#17) (Edited)

that's easy.

It won't be the ferret.

This time around. That's the problem with these hate speech laws. The wheel turns. He who is first now will later be last.

...and the times they are a changin'


"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology

farmfriend  posted on  2009-05-05   0:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend (#29)

Solly said "Denny you know there aren't many who can sing a song the way that you do -- let's go south."

When in doubt, doubt.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-05   1:33:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

The system has stopped working for us, so the question is when is enough, enough?

About 25 years ago !

JT, I graduated from Tech High School in Indianapolis in 1968. We had race riots the entire time I went there, and no one was ever charged with a hate crime.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-05-05   3:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#31) (Edited)

A high school that never had females assaulted in the hallways, knife fights and riots...until bussing destroyed it and ran off all the teachers. A high school band that once held the title "the most televised band in the land" and won best marching band in TX for 3 years straight and had 300 people in it..marched at Nixon's inaugural, Macy's Thanksgiving parade, pro football games, the Orange Bowl...... now has...27. Twenty Seven.
Eventually the entire neighborhood was destroyed. The neighborhood I used to play in as a child safely even at night. The neighborhood where English is a 4th language now. Yes, it was time 35 years ago. The Commies have won without firing a shot...except of course at a few unfortunate "examples" to keep the rest in line over the years.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2009-05-05   4:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: freepatriot32 (#27)

im confused as hell maybe ferret mike can help me on that since hes going to be bary/boracks lewinsky complete with president/king/dictator for lifes kneepads

LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-05   12:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

As opposed to a nigger filled slum.

You know if you keep that up you will hurt his widdle tender feewings, don't you?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-05-05   12:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#31) (Edited)

JT, I graduated from Tech High School in Indianapolis in 1968. We had race riots the entire time I went there, and no one was ever charged with a hate crime.

You should ask for a retroactive hate-crime investigation by the Obama administration. It's never too late, look at the way the jooos are still going after 96 year-old WWII veterans:

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=99589

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-05   12:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

Relax, we here in little old Eugene and Grants Pass have traded words of endearment like this for decades. They think of Eugene as Hippie trash and we return the favor.

Grants Pass is OK on many levels, and I have spent much time there planting trees and fighting fires. I go with a girl who's Mom had a store in a small town in the App legate Valley down there, and when I was posting about Grants Pass last time, her, a Friend also from down there and I were prompted to talking in fond reminiscence about Grants Pass and I quoted what we all were saying about the joint directly.

She is also originally from Houston, TX and you should hear what she says about that state from the perspective of a very liberal Texas refugee. It makes what she says about Grants Pass seem quite mild and harmless in comparison. ;-)


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-05   14:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: freepatriot32 (#27)

I am a U.S. Army veteran, and I got out after nine years, and I only have one country. As does Barack Obama, despite your hyperbole here.

The spin that he isn't is just not remotely credible.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-05   14:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

Anything bad said about Houston is true, I've always said that a wall should be built around that city to keep in the trash (human) and roaches. But, Houston is not Texas and vice-versa. The rest of the state rejects Houston.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-05   14:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: bluegrass (#13)

Nah, I actually don't believe their speech here should result in amplified charges and result in stiffer penalties. The powers that be down there should give the hate speech aspect of this a rest.

You will never change how things are in Southwest Oregon with this tact. It is a counter productive way to go about things at best.

So much for rash assumptions on your part.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-05   14:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

I actually don't believe their speech here should result in amplified charges and result in stiffer penalties.

You're a tireless proponent of free and unfettered speech.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-05-05   14:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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