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Title: Each illegal immigrant costs us £1m, says study as Government faces calls for amnesty
Source: Daily Mail (UK)
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... nment-faces-calls-amnesty.html
Published: May 4, 2009
Author: Daily Mail Reporter
Post Date: 2009-05-05 23:36:30 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 443
Comments: 49

An amnesty allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain would cost taxpayers £1million for each newcomer, a shocking new report revealed today.

The massive sum reflects the costs of handouts and other state services provided over the lifetime of the average immigrant.

The figure would also apply to many of those who have already been granted asylum in Britain, according to campaign group Migrationwatch which commissioned the study.

Their revelation came as thousands of churchgoers, trade unionists and charity workers today prepared to rally in London in support of an ‘earned amnesty’ for 450,000 foreigners.

The coalition argues that providing permanent residency for those long-term illegal immigrants who meet certain conditions – roughly half the total – would bring in more than £1billion of tax a year.

But Migrationwatch warned that such an amnesty would overburden the public purse during a recession and only tempt more migrants into the country.

‘Our calculations show the numbers are truly enormous, adding an unacceptable – and entirely unnecessary - burden to the nation’s balance sheet,’ said the group’s chairman Sir Andrew Green.

‘It is clear that not only is rewarding illegal behaviour wrong in principle but the experience of Spain and Italy shows conclusively that it encourages even more illegal immigration in anticipation of future amnesties.

‘This is a ridiculous proposal which is bound to increase illegal immigration rather than reduce it. It is also a shocking waste of public money at a time when we can least afford it.’

To calculate the individual cost of each granting asylum, Migrationwatch researchers set the tax and National Insurance paid by immigrants against their demands on state funds.

The research is based on a married 25-year-old, married with two children, who earned the minimum wage and lived in private rented housing, retired at 65 and lived until 80.

‘On the other hand some may have families of more than two children, thereby attracting more Child Benefit and Child Tax Credits.

Campaigners gathering in support of granting asylum to illegal immigrants will be heartened by London Mayor Boris Johnson’s comments that providing amnesty would be ‘morally right’.

Neil Jameson, co-ordinator of the campaign, said: ‘The current government strategy of imposing heavy fines and document checks on employers as well as deporting families is an inhumane, costly, and complicated way to tackle irregular migration.

‘We propose that those who have been here for four or more years should be admitted to a two-year pathway to full legal rights during which they work legally and demonstrate their contribution to UK economy and society.

‘Combined with the current border-tightening measures, our policy will reduce illegal immigration, and British society will be the winner.’

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Thereby setting a precedent by which Obama can point to when he proposes amnesty. It's a vicious end-game by the liberal white-guilters.

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#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Loss of sovereignty, heritage, and culture?

Priceless.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-06   1:41:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike, Prefrontal Vortex (#2)

Hey Mike, I thought you said this didn't cost us anything of consequence? We're talking real money here. Kind of like the Californians and their free medical care for illegals.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   5:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deasy (#3)

So, you are saying 'we' in regards to a study on British immigration. Are you from there?

I do feel amnesties are the right route to take, and this piece at best show some of the possible financial aspects of British immigration.

Just out of curiosity, do only non Caucasian immigrants bother you? There are an awful lot of Irish immigrants here illegally, and I have noted people the most upset on this issue are like you; race and none Western Civilization based culture obsessed.

None the less, I see nothing wrong with an amnesty there as well as here in the U.S. And I would want to see allot more information then this piece, I would also like to know if this study was impartial or produced to provide a spin for anti-immigration folks, not objectively arrived as conclusions.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-06   10:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

In quantitative terms, I'm concerned about the cost of illegal aliens in general. In civil terms, I'm in favor of upholding our Constitutional law requiring the federal government to defend our borders; I'm for deporting people who are here illegally because they are breaking immigration law. Without law, there can be no republic. Without a republic, there is no democratic system, there is only legal anarchy. In racial and ethnic terms, I'm in favor of limiting non-white immigration such that our traditional ethnic balances are preserved or adjusted through the natural family structures of the existing peoples. I'm against using force of government policy to alter racial balances, as Norman Podhoretz, Jacob Javits, Leo Pfeffer, Charles Schurmer, and Elizabeth Holtzman successfully lobbied for during the mid-1960s.

Left alone, the people would find their own balance. That I could live with. With the tyranny of government force involved, everything is changing at an incredibly rapid pace. In my view, this has had a lot to do with the emergence of our police state.

I am against the redistribution of American wealth for the purpose of benefiting immigrants. It's a systematic form of oppression facing poor and middle class Americans daily. Hospitals are closing. Schools are overcrowded. Jobs are going to illegals. Spanish and other languages fill the air of our once English-only byways and thoroughfares. And now hate crimes laws are being placed on our books to suppress the resentment.

It's all of those things.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   20:15:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deasy (#6)

Good post, and i agree with you that we should not have open border, but i disagree with you on this point:

Spanish and other languages fill the air of our once English-only byways and thoroughfares

I have never minded what language strangers speak. & I don't know why any supporter of individual freedom would care what language someone speaks. it is their right to converse however they want. and the fact that someone speaks a language other than english is certainly not evidence that they are ''illegal''.

(disclaimer: The fact that my wife is bilingual eng/spanish has no bearing on my opinion here, because i thought this way years before i met her.)

for those who purport that murika has some special 'culture' which is 'shared by all'(?), that is worth cherishing, i would beg to differ. Look at the vast radical differences among white middle class murikans themselves, even here on this board for example, and you will have to concede that there is no mass 'shared culture'.

america is full of baby-killing tyranny-loving arrogant decadent dumbed-down kooks.

another thing is democracy. people should not use that term to describe us because we are not a democracy, and a great site which outlines the founders view is democracyisnotfreedom.com

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-06   20:47:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan, christine (#8)

I have never minded what language strangers speak. & I don't know why any supporter of individual freedom would care what language someone speaks.

I've heard that argument and I understand it. My point is more fundamental. It's not that I would want the government to enforce culture. But by bringing in so many aliens at once, we are diluting our former culture to the point that it can't sustain itself. We're creating a new culture by force. Nobody knows what the results of that will be. Government is being used as a tool to accomplish massive social change. This is happening intentionally. If you're concerned with the lies about the 9/11 attacks, and the emerging police state, and wars without justification, you should also be concerned with language change by force.. In fact, they go together, brought onto us by the same people, for the same reasons. The enemy is not the Mexican immigrant, just like the enemy wasn't Saddam Hussein, and isn't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The enemy is that which deprives us of our individual liberty and our cultural underpinnings.

This is an old story in Europe. The Romans started doing this to us more than two thousand years ago. They brought new languages, new religion, and dispersed new values across our lands. We know the story, we've just forgotten it.

america is full of baby-killing tyranny-loving arrogant decadent dumbed-down kooks.
Americans can abort their babies because they do not value themselves. They do not value their racial and cultural heritage which goes back more than 3,000 years.

That which has deprived us of the knowledge of who we are is the enemy.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   21:01:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deasy (#10)

i do not think that abortion is so much a lack of value of racial/ cultural heritage, or even an american thing, simply because abortion is so widespread and commonplace worldwide. it is a moral failing. but i do see your point.

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-06   21:05:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Artisan (#11)

If you loved your own heritage, how could you terminate its continuation?

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   21:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deasy (#12)

true, but i think abortion is more about a shocking lack of moral conscience and consciousness in general. also a selfishness. since abortion goes on in mass all over the world, in most countries, i can not attribute it to americanism or lack of it.

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-06   21:15:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Artisan (#13)

I seriously doubt that what you want to preserve here is merely "Americanism." Americanism is dead. It was never what we were told it was in the first place. There is something about the freedom of your own people that makes you come to life.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   21:17:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: Deasy (#14)

There is something about the freedom of your own people that makes you come to life.

I think that we may have a different view o what 'our own people' are. I come from blue collar Italian Catholics, much different in many ways from lets say uppity english protestants. and my people are not only white. I have talked with white separatists here, (don't know if you adhere to that view) and i don't have a problem with their position, although i don't share it.

I do agree wholeheartedly that the pursuit and defense of freedom makes you come alive. it is engergizing and life-affirming. that is 100% definite. I am still on a high from beating that sicko bastard government 2 weeks ago in court,. and am bragging about it to everyone,. i already got 2 new people to fight their tickets. This may sound silly to some, but beating traffic tickets is a key bridge to getting people to appreciate and understand the concepts of liberty.

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