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Title: Each illegal immigrant costs us £1m, says study as Government faces calls for amnesty
Source: Daily Mail (UK)
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... nment-faces-calls-amnesty.html
Published: May 4, 2009
Author: Daily Mail Reporter
Post Date: 2009-05-05 23:36:30 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 803
Comments: 49

An amnesty allowing illegal immigrants to stay in Britain would cost taxpayers £1million for each newcomer, a shocking new report revealed today.

The massive sum reflects the costs of handouts and other state services provided over the lifetime of the average immigrant.

The figure would also apply to many of those who have already been granted asylum in Britain, according to campaign group Migrationwatch which commissioned the study.

Their revelation came as thousands of churchgoers, trade unionists and charity workers today prepared to rally in London in support of an ‘earned amnesty’ for 450,000 foreigners.

The coalition argues that providing permanent residency for those long-term illegal immigrants who meet certain conditions – roughly half the total – would bring in more than £1billion of tax a year.

But Migrationwatch warned that such an amnesty would overburden the public purse during a recession and only tempt more migrants into the country.

‘Our calculations show the numbers are truly enormous, adding an unacceptable – and entirely unnecessary - burden to the nation’s balance sheet,’ said the group’s chairman Sir Andrew Green.

‘It is clear that not only is rewarding illegal behaviour wrong in principle but the experience of Spain and Italy shows conclusively that it encourages even more illegal immigration in anticipation of future amnesties.

‘This is a ridiculous proposal which is bound to increase illegal immigration rather than reduce it. It is also a shocking waste of public money at a time when we can least afford it.’

To calculate the individual cost of each granting asylum, Migrationwatch researchers set the tax and National Insurance paid by immigrants against their demands on state funds.

The research is based on a married 25-year-old, married with two children, who earned the minimum wage and lived in private rented housing, retired at 65 and lived until 80.

‘On the other hand some may have families of more than two children, thereby attracting more Child Benefit and Child Tax Credits.

Campaigners gathering in support of granting asylum to illegal immigrants will be heartened by London Mayor Boris Johnson’s comments that providing amnesty would be ‘morally right’.

Neil Jameson, co-ordinator of the campaign, said: ‘The current government strategy of imposing heavy fines and document checks on employers as well as deporting families is an inhumane, costly, and complicated way to tackle irregular migration.

‘We propose that those who have been here for four or more years should be admitted to a two-year pathway to full legal rights during which they work legally and demonstrate their contribution to UK economy and society.

‘Combined with the current border-tightening measures, our policy will reduce illegal immigration, and British society will be the winner.’

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Thereby setting a precedent by which Obama can point to when he proposes amnesty. It's a vicious end-game by the liberal white-guilters.

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#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Loss of sovereignty, heritage, and culture?

Priceless.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-05-06   1:41:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike, Prefrontal Vortex (#2)

Hey Mike, I thought you said this didn't cost us anything of consequence? We're talking real money here. Kind of like the Californians and their free medical care for illegals.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   5:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deasy (#3)

So, you are saying 'we' in regards to a study on British immigration. Are you from there?

I do feel amnesties are the right route to take, and this piece at best show some of the possible financial aspects of British immigration.

Just out of curiosity, do only non Caucasian immigrants bother you? There are an awful lot of Irish immigrants here illegally, and I have noted people the most upset on this issue are like you; race and none Western Civilization based culture obsessed.

None the less, I see nothing wrong with an amnesty there as well as here in the U.S. And I would want to see allot more information then this piece, I would also like to know if this study was impartial or produced to provide a spin for anti-immigration folks, not objectively arrived as conclusions.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-06   10:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

In quantitative terms, I'm concerned about the cost of illegal aliens in general. In civil terms, I'm in favor of upholding our Constitutional law requiring the federal government to defend our borders; I'm for deporting people who are here illegally because they are breaking immigration law. Without law, there can be no republic. Without a republic, there is no democratic system, there is only legal anarchy. In racial and ethnic terms, I'm in favor of limiting non-white immigration such that our traditional ethnic balances are preserved or adjusted through the natural family structures of the existing peoples. I'm against using force of government policy to alter racial balances, as Norman Podhoretz, Jacob Javits, Leo Pfeffer, Charles Schurmer, and Elizabeth Holtzman successfully lobbied for during the mid-1960s.

Left alone, the people would find their own balance. That I could live with. With the tyranny of government force involved, everything is changing at an incredibly rapid pace. In my view, this has had a lot to do with the emergence of our police state.

I am against the redistribution of American wealth for the purpose of benefiting immigrants. It's a systematic form of oppression facing poor and middle class Americans daily. Hospitals are closing. Schools are overcrowded. Jobs are going to illegals. Spanish and other languages fill the air of our once English-only byways and thoroughfares. And now hate crimes laws are being placed on our books to suppress the resentment.

It's all of those things.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   20:15:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deasy (#6)

And this republic was built on the bodies of those of cultures that were trampled by it's formation. Plenty have been made from this theft and exploitation, be it the tons of gold looted and sent to Europe in 'the Age of Discovery,' or in the riches from stolen land.

Such as that stolen in the Trail of Tears when the Cherokee, and other tribes were booted from their land by greedy European ethnic farmers even though they had assimilated successfully into our culture economically and socially.

As far as I'm concerned, the Constitution borrowed heavily from that of the Iroquois Federation, and we are too greedy, selfish, ignorant and cruel about how we came to being a wealthy, powerful nation.

I am in no way sympathetic to viewing one race or ethnic group as preferable then another in terms of setting immigration limits. I just don't care if the percentage of Caucasian peoples here falls.

It completely underwhelms me in fact. In my view, in a century or two, we will have a diffusion of race and ethnic groups that will eliminate largely racial differences, and this is something I want very much to see.

I am loyal to the human race, not Euro-centric Caucasian peoples.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-06   21:17:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

I am loyal to the human race, not Euro-centric Caucasian peoples.

Again, you have no empathy for people who do have a racial identity. You mask that off with your value for racial valuelessness. You can't force that on others without using tyranny. You can't argue that because racial oppression existed that racial identity should be neutralized or rendered impotent as a political force. This doesn't make sense. You're just repeating tired cliches.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   21:19:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deasy (#16)

I have great empathy for such peoples. But I know that in what Marshall McLuhan called 'the increasingly shrinking global village,' race will blur in an ever increasing degree in the decades ahead.

I would have loved to destroy Columbus' nasty rag tag little flotilla and kept this hemisphere free of invasion for a couple of hundred years longer then it was to allow cultures here breathing room that would of helped preserve them from total annihilation.

But, one cannot put toothpaste back in the tube, yes? We will adapt and change as a nation in the next few centuries, and I just don't care about your desire to try to stall the natural process of racial diffusion.

I am very happy with things the way they are now, and I don't view the current wave of immigration to be any worse then all the others before it. All of them had their tidings of doom and gloom predicted to result from them.

And that didn't happen then, and it won't happen now.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-06   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

I am loyal to the human race, not Euro-centric Caucasian peoples.

In other words, you personally are racially neutral, and you expect others to be as well. As I'm growing tired of explaining to you, you can't have it both ways. You can't say that you empathize with people who have a racial identity and them denigrate whites for the same. And you can't suppress racial identity in others without force.

You claim not to want government interference, but when it comes to issues of race, you would use the government to impose your values.

I don't think you're really willing to discuss this, because you keep avoiding it.

Deasy  posted on  2009-05-06   21:42:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deasy (#21)

I absolutely and profoundly find nothing about our culture to be in jeopardy. I see your argument as one for a culture where we are the dominant culture and that our culture is in no danger of being rubbed out.

I see you as confusing cultural pride and identity with a desire to see it be the backbone culture where nothing else threatens it's supremacy.

Now, if I seem distracted, I am. My new squeeze has a four and a half (very very Caucasian) boy and he is driving me nuts and I have to get him to bed, which is no easy chore. Be back later this evening. I figured you would cop a rush knowing that I am indeed in the hands of a skilled master of torture.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-06   22:34:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

I absolutely and profoundly find nothing about our culture to be in jeopardy.

That is because you are the counter culture.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-05-06   22:42:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: Old Friend (#33)

That is because you are the counter culture.

Counter culture = Bizarro World, where the wheels are square and the brains are completely deluded.

Turtle  posted on  2009-05-06 22:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Old Friend (#33)

And you are Babylon, man.

Counterculture is white culture. It's the new evolution man, ride the wave.

Counterculture has always been very much an alternative white culture. I find your comment naive at best. I am living in a counterculture paradise, but I view myself differently then the stereotype you project here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-05-07 01:18:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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