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Title: Who really orchestrated the OKC bombing?
Source: judicial-inc.biz
URL Source: http://judicial-inc.biz/Oklahoma_City_Bomb.htm
Published: May 7, 2009
Author: judicial-inc.biz
Post Date: 2009-05-07 16:22:39 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 1343
Comments: 15

judicial-inc.biz/Oklahoma_City_Bomb.htm

Whose M.O. is this, and who benefits? (1 image)

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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Ex-military, single cell, white extremists who listened to Rush Limbaugh every day. Bill Clinton/Janet Reno benefitted from that dastardly right-wing attack in the Heartland Of America.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-05-07   16:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itistoolate (#0)

article at the link makes one last statement, spells out what I think was the main goal of the 'investigators'

"... In many ways, the Oklahoma City bombing spelled the end of the anti-government militia movement to which McVeigh was linked. In the years following the bombing, most such groups either disbanded, or were pushed further to the fringes of American politics. ..."


~ tis better to live as your own man, than as a fool in someone elses dream ~

Amandil  posted on  2009-05-07   17:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Whose M.O. is this, and who benefits?

MO fits any well established covert action group. Who benefits? Well, who BENEFITTED...

Look at the fact the BATF was militarized and given free reign to butcher innocent men, women, and children at Waco. Look at the militarization of local and state police departments. Look at who benefits from that...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-07   22:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker (#3)

Slick Willy benefitted most from this.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-05-07   23:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

Slick Willy benefitted most from this.

Clinton was just another cog in the machine. The question that begs to be asked is, who actually RUNS that machine...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-07   23:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Amandil (#2)

article at the link makes one last statement, spells out what I think was the main goal of the 'investigators'

"... In many ways, the Oklahoma City bombing spelled the end of the anti-government militia movement to which McVeigh was linked. In the years following the bombing, most such groups either disbanded, or were pushed further to the fringes of American politics. ..."

i agree.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-07   23:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#0)

BTW, I do realize that Waco occured prior to the OKC bombing, it's just that the bombing was an extension of the insanity prevalent in the rush to bring about sweeping changes in federal police power. Waco was a symptom rather than a cause or an effect.

In fact, the government insists that McVeigh mentioned he did what he did BECAUSE of Waco. How convenient, where not only does it give them "reason" to "investigate" militias and those who are (or were) vocal about the Waco Massacre, but it causes people to distrust anyone who sees Waco as an act of tyranny, rather than the end result of a crazed cult leader.

It's obvious that there were cutting charges and multiple explosive devices in the OKC building from witness reports and forensic evidence. The fact that those facts have been covered up, and those who had first hand knowledge of those facts have been brutally murdered, indicates who was REALLY behind the bombing.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-08   0:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#7)

It's obvious that there were cutting charges and multiple explosive devices in the OKC building from witness reports and forensic evidence. The fact that those facts have been covered up, and those who had first hand knowledge of those facts have been brutally murdered, indicates who was REALLY behind the bombing.

Yup.

I don't believe that a home made ANFO bomb could sit in a parked and moving truck for hours without the fuel oil and the fertilizer separating, and if it detonated at all the yield would have been unsatisfactory for any task other than blowing a stump directly beneath it.

The apparent acceptance of that fairie tale, that a low velocity ANFO bomb could bring down the facade, never mind those rear columns is a testament to the collective stupidity and/or cowardice of the "sit on mah ass and wait for mah check" American people.

I'd bet that it would take many tons of TNT to destroy the building from that distance, and without tamping the charges to direct the blast.

And they never explained how columns in row C and row A could be cut without damaging those in row B.

Their answer? "Uh, *the General is an unAmerican kook!"

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*the General being Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, U. S. Air Force, retired, an expert in reflective wave technology.

In order to try and make a monkey out of him they set up a simulation, and all they had to do was A) change to higher grade explosives and B) eliminate the truck the second time so the axle wouldn't wind up in the crater twice thereby proving that something stinks with the govt story, and C) not have a bldg in the way when they damaged a few columns with their simulation.

The funniest part was that the simulation was conducted by a demolitions expert who would be out of business and have to leave the country to get work if he didn't deliver the desired visual effect for the dummies.

A truly objective scientific experiment would have been conducted by a Canadian or some other expert who isn't completely dependent on a license or funding or contracts from the US Govt, it would have involved a Ryder truck and an ANFO bomb that was pre-mixed by hand and had ample time to separate. Of course they couldn't risk a bomb not detonating at all, and they sure couldn't risk that happening more than once!

They had sensors monitoring the shock wave to the columns on the first blast with a truck, and they claim that the computer was damaged and no readings were measured.

Well, I call bullshit on that. They claimed that to avoid revealing the very low blast force they measured when a truck body and a freshly mixed ANFO bomb were detonated. So, that warranted the upgrade of the explosive to a commercial grade that was guaranteed to detonate and produce much greater force, removal of the truck to maximize the blast and produce enough pressure to impress the audience of GED grads with no scientific clue, and to remove the possibility of the axle staying behind in the crater again which it did not do in the OKC blast. (Would any surprise anyone that a low yield farm bomb doesn't produce enough pressure to launch a heavy truck differential and axle into space? And, if that happened twice on camera who would have credibility, them or the General?)

So, they hired a dutiful lackey to substitute ingredients and eliminate problematical factors in order to perfect a bomb of that type instead of duplicating the OKC explosion, and they proved that they'll lie about anything as often as needed for as long as necessary to maintain plausible deniability in the weak, pliable minds of people who are no longer educated well enough to see the obvious deception.

Those who would mock the scientific method when such a horrible crime has been committed are just goddam evil.

And, that's something else the people are just too damned stupid to see.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-05-08   3:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8)

Those who would mock the scientific method when such a horrible crime has been committed are just goddam evil.

And, that's something else the people are just too damned stupid to see.

Exactly. Not only that, but those who have been sworn to protect and defend the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, whose job it is to investigate these things and arrest guilty parties are nothing more than cowards and traitors, as they MUST know that the official story is pure BS, unless they're totally brainwashed and absolute idiots.

Just think, it was THEIR OWN PEOPLE who were the victims in this particular event, yet they do nothing to bring the real criminals to justice.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-08   16:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8)

One other thing I'd like to mention. Notice from the image the extent of the damage to the Murrah Building? Notice how it didn't collapse? Oh that's right, the ANFO bomb was missing that superduper jet fuel carried by the hijacked aircraft that flew into the WTC towers, that explains it...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-08   16:58:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#10)

One other thing I'd like to mention. Notice from the image the extent of the damage to the Murrah Building? Notice how it didn't collapse? Oh that's right, the ANFO bomb was missing that superduper jet fuel carried by the hijacked aircraft that flew into the WTC towers, that explains it...

Right.

AND, the Murrah Bldg didn't require a billion bux worth of scaffolding rental and a bil worth of asbestos abatement before the demolition could get under way, all of which would have had to come from the pocket of some poor, honest, hard working son of The Diaspora instead of the owner of The Golden Goose, FEDGOV.

It's ironic that them 19 bad peepul were the best friends that Larry Silverstein, GWB, PNAC, BIG OIL, Izrul and the MIC will ever have.

In fact, if certain non Christians of The Covenant are truly blessed then one may assume that G_D himself ordered those towers to come down....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-05-08   17:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FormerLurker (#3)

and who benefits?

Look at the fact the BATF was militarized and given free reign to butcher innocent men, women, and children at Waco

well, what they did at waco couldn't have been their benefit from OKC, since it happened 2 yrs beforehand. there is a plaque at the waco branch davidian compound praying for the victims of OKC though. and also, next to it, a plaque to the 4 atf people killed at waco. i thought that was big of them.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-08   17:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#12)

Please see post #7.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-05-08   18:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#13)

OK, got it. i knew you knew waco happened before okc, so i didnt understand your comment at first.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-05-08   19:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8)

you could be talking about 911.

The smooth criminal transition from Bush/Cheney to Obama

christine  posted on  2009-05-08   19:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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