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Title: WHY WE FIGHT U.S. Troops Die For Rapists
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URL Source: http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/?uc_full_date=20090507
Published: May 7, 2009
Author: Ted Rall
Post Date: 2009-05-07 20:05:04 by bush_is_a_moonie
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Views: 764
Comments: 27
American soldiers serving in Vietnam wondered what they were fighting for. U.S. troops in Afghanistan don't have that problem. They know exactly what they're fighting for: rapists. After President Obama's coming "Afghan surge" there will be 72,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. Their primary mission is to prevent Afghans from overthrowing the unpopular regime of Hamid Karzai, the former oil consultant installed by George W. Bush when the U.S. occupation began nearly eight years ago. America's media repeatedly claimed that Afghan women would be better off under the U.S.-supported Northern Alliance puppet government headed by Karzai than under the Taliban. But when I went to Afghanistan and asked women what they thought, they had a different story. The defeat of the Taliban brought about the collapse of law and order, making life even more dangerous, especially for women. "Under the Taliban," a woman told me, "I watched rapists being executed. Now I see them in the government." The Afghan women's rights group RAWA has repeatedly told anyone willing to listen that there hasn't been much improvement for women and girls since the U.S. occupation began in 2001. But no one--least of all left-of-center Americans eager to embrace the Afghan war--has wanted to hear what they had to say. "Most women still wear the all-encompassing burqa through fear of attack and social pressure, a third of women in Kabul do not leave the house, forbidden from doing so by the male members of the family, and it is still almost impossible for women to get a divorce," reported The Sunday Herald in 2005. Liberal Democrats who cling to Afghanistan as "the good war" the U.S. should be fighting are being forced to confront the ugly truth about their ally. Karzai has signed a law that states that "women cannot leave the house without their husbands' permission, that they can only seek work, education or visit the doctor with their husbands' permission, and that they cannot refuse their husband sex," reported the British newspaper The Guardian on March 31st. The Shiite Personal Status act applies only to devotees of the Shia branch of Islam, which account for between 10 and 20 percent of the population. How can a secular democratic state have different laws depending on a citizen's faith? The answer is: It can't. Afghanistan isn't secular or democratic. The "new" Afghanistan's constitution is based on Sharia law--exactly as it was under the Taliban. But the U.S. media has purposefully failed to report the icky truth about our ally. The new law requires women to have sex with their husbands at least once every four days unless they are sick or menstruating. "Obedience, readiness for intercourse and not leaving the house without the permission of the husband are the duties of the wife," reads the law of a nation ostensibly invaded by U.S. troops in part to liberate Afghan women. "As long as the husband is not traveling, he has the right to have sexual intercourse with his wife every fourth night," it says. Afghan Senator Humaira Namati calls the rape bill "worse than during the Taliban" and said it was rammed through parliament without debate. "Anyone who spoke out was accused of being against Islam," she said. Several hundred women protesting the law on the streets of Kabul were viciously assaulted by men as police stood back and watched. In fairness to the responsible male legislators, they did add a provision to protect Shiite women from "dead bed": Afghan men have to put out "at least once every four months." Karzai signed legalized rape into law in order to appease right-wing legislators in an election year. After international criticism, however, he began backpedaling with the lamest of all possible reasons: he didn't read the bill before he was for it. "I was not aware of what I had signed," Afghan parliamentarian Sabrina Saqib said Karzai told her. The legislation "has so many articles," Karzai told CNN. "Now I have instructed, in consultation with clergy of the country, that the law be revised and any article that is not in keeping with the Afghan constitution and Islamic Sharia must be removed from this law." As Karzai BSes for the cameras, hundreds of Afghan women languish in prisons around the country. Their crime? They're teen brides, some as young as 10, who ran away from much older husbands who purchased them. "In President Hamid Karzai's Afghanistan, women are still imprisoned for running away from home," reports The Sunday Herald. Nice theocracy you got there, Mullah Karzai. Remember this column the next time you watch a flag-draped coffin returning from Afghanistan. The young man inside that box didn't die for nothing. He died to protect rapists.
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#1. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
Jesus.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
I see zero problems with this law. At least they aren't a nation of out of control sluts who as found in the Western nations. RO
I see zero problems with this law. At least they aren't a nation of out of control sluts as found in the Western nations. RO
Well, having sex against her will can be physically painful and emotionally damaging. I'd be willing to bet that if you wished to accommodate a large, well hung negro cellmate's advances you could probably manage it. (with proper lubrication, mental prep and lotsa love in your heart) But, if you weren't so predisposed and he decided to "take what is his" your ass may have a problem even though (what I laughingly refer to as) your mental powers of reason cannot find any fault with it. And, look at the upside. At least you wouldn't be out on the street whoring that ass in bathhouses all over town, right? And, since you seem to approve of an Afghan wife having no more rights than a weak cell mate, I'd say you'd be perfect for the job of prison bitch.
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Good piece, moonie. The oafs who have either supported this "good" war, or ignore Obama;s desire to wage it, are the ones who should put some chips in the game. Of course they won't, because like the neocons they detested, they'll be content to watch others die for a lie. They are political zombies.
They are political schizophrenics.
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Fixed, somewhat. I could go on, but I'll spare you. And you wont find any of them with tramp stamps either. But there has to be a happy medium in there somewhere. Rape is rape. How about if she doesn't give it up, kick her to the curb? Sex is just one way they try and manipulate men, so don't put up with it and find someone that doesn't play silly games. If she is not putting out, there's a reason. Easier said than done though, even here. Expatting is not exactly an option for them. .
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It doesn't matter. We will lose. The taliban will win. No one in recent history has ever taken that country. There is a reason for that. That reason is: they dont know the meaning of the word "quit". They will fight until we are either gone, or everyone is dead. I look for many more coffins arriving at Dover. .
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Gee, I know this will sound harsh, but about those coffins arriving at Dover? The more that arrive the quicker the stream of out of work "volunteers" will dry up, thus decreasing the expansion of the American empire. So, put me in the column of not giving a siht about how many come back feet first.
I dont consider that to be harsh. I don't care either, and I make no bones about it. Pun not intended. We only murdered over a million of them in Afghanistan and Iraq, so excuse me if I dont shed any tears when the payback comes. "Our" soldiers are idiots at best, voluntary murderers at worst. I also look for Iraq to heat up again. They are probably sitting back, biding their time, organizing, rearming, training, waiting for the best opportunity to strike, when we start pulling out. Then they'll hit "us". .
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O.K.
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But, if you weren't so predisposed and he decided to "take what is his" your ass may have a problem even though (what I laughingly refer to as) your mental powers of reason cannot find any fault with it. And, look at the upside. At least you wouldn't be out on the street whoring that ass in bathhouses all over town, right? And, since you seem to approve of an Afghan wife having no more rights than a weak cell mate, I'd say you'd be perfect for the job of prison bitch. Excellent post. I see nothing but problems with a "law" that forces anyone to submit to sex if they choose not to. Civilized people don't engage in rape.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. No problem.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I can understand why you feel that way, but think about it. How many of our soldiers are over there not because they wanted to be mercenaries for this rotten empire, but because they simply wanted to make a living of some kind, any kind? How many of our soldiers are over there because their only choice was to either join the military or end up homeless and living on the streets? It's not right that we've done so much damage to the rest of the world. But our soldiers don't deserve the brunt of the retaliation against our empire. The oligarchs who own this empire deserve it, but they'll never experience it. Some poor bastard from Nowhereville, USA who couldn't find a job of any kind to save his life will be the one to suffer. And then when they come home in a box, their family will suffer too. And for what? The unbridled greed and arrogance of the oligarchs. It's a truly miserable situation, to my mind this is the kind of crap that eventually results in a popular uprising and revolution. It's a pattern that has played out many times before. Sure, the oligarchs have much more control and power and ability to suppress popular rage than they did a hundred years ago, but that only serves to build up the pressure before the final revolt. Right now it sucks to be us. Mark my words, the day will come when it will REALLY suck to be them...
#2. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
The new law requires women to have sex with their husbands at least once every four days unless they are sick or menstruating. "Obedience, readiness for intercourse and not leaving the house without the permission of the husband are the duties of the wife,"
#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
The new law requires women to have sex with their husbands at least once every four days unless they are sick or menstruating. "Obedience, readiness for intercourse and not leaving the house without the permission of the husband are the duties of the wife,"
#4. To: ReallyOrnery, James Deffenbach, Rotara, christine, Jethro Tull, Deasy, farmfriend, bluegrass (#2)
I see zero problems with this law.
#5. To: HOUNDDAWGJames Deffenbach, Rotara, christine, Jethro Tull, Deasy, bluegrass (#4)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#6. To: HOUNDDAWG, James Deffenbach (#5)
"Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." — Dr. Richard Lindzen, MIT Professor of Meteorology
#7. To: farmfriend (#5)
#8. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
In fairness to the responsible male legislators, they did add a provision to protect Shiite women from "dead bed": Afghan men have to put out "at least once every four months."
Al: "Oh god!"
#9. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
They are political zombies.
#11. To: ReallyOrnery (#3)
I see zero problems with this law. At least they aren't a nation of out of control loud screeching drunken batshit insane sluts as found in the Western nations.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#12. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#0)
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#13. To: PSUSA (#12)
I look for many more coffins arriving at Dover.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#9)
"Of course they won't, because like the neocons they detested, they'll be content to watch others die for a lie... So, put me in the column of not giving a siht about how many come back feet first."
#16. To: HOUNDDAWG (#4)
I'd be willing to bet that if you wished to accommodate a large, well hung negro cellmate's advances you could probably manage it. (with proper lubrication, mental prep and lotsa love in your heart)
Lord Acton
#17. To: farmfriend (#6)
sorry messed up on the ping.
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#18. To: PSUSA (#14)
We only murdered over a million of them in Afghanistan and Iraq, so excuse me if I dont shed any tears when the payback comes. "Our" soldiers are idiots at best, voluntary murderers at worst.
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#19. To: Elliott Jackalope (#18)
We don't see eye to eye on this one. I dont excuse this because someone needed a job. There's no difference between this and someone that chooses to be a mafia hitman or a freelance murderer for hire. There's good money in that too. But giving them the benefit of the doubt, the people that enlisted didn't do their homework. .
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis.
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#20. To: James Deffenbach, farmfriend (#16)
I suppose that in the past when the little woman was legally required (and by church law morally obligated) to perform her wifey duty, a frustrated, neglected or otherwise dissatisfied husband couldn't just find another willing partner and release the tension without risking the rack, the ducking stool or some other ghastly means of negative reinforcement. Perhaps a case could be made that fickle women who may have been tempted to use their leverage (besides burning dinner and neglecting to chop up a couple of tons of firewood every ten days of course) should have been discouraged from doing so because the penalties for adultery were so severe. And, these laws were likely accompanied by the equally binding obligation to produce male heirs, because husbands couldn't be expected to leave their fortunes to their women! (GASP!) I think if we examine the countries where mandatory consortium laws are extant we will find that male inheritance is still practiced because "the dumbest son is still preferable to the most brilliant daughter" when it comes to running the family farm and keeping the plantation going. And, what else do we find? Well, educating a woman is like pouring honey over a fine, Swiss watch. It can only interfere with her purpose on Earth, and G_D or Allah (PBUH) wouldn't like that. I'm a firm believer in equality for wives, which as I explained before makes me a feminist, and I wear that label proudly. A few years ago I was sitting in the barber shop as my wife was across the street busting her ass chipping ice off the sidewalk, and some of my buddies asked how I could let her do that. Well, after I explained that I was helping her reach her full potential as any enlightened husband would do, well the boyz were ready to heave me up on their shoulders! And, when I see a gal with a flat tire on the side of a road in a blinding rainstorm, I'm actually thrilled that she'll have the chance to prove herself! I drive by and give her a thumbs and sometimes I'll even yell, "You've got your own cigarette now, baby!" Then I roll the window up quickly so I don't get cold or wet. Brrrr.
I see nothing but problems with a "law" that forces anyone to submit to sex if they choose not to. Civilized people don't engage in rape.
#21. To: HOUNDDAWG, REDPANTHER (#20)
ping
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#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
Shit! You almost had me going there for a second! I was getting ready to let you have it. .
I'm a firm believer in equality for wives, which as I explained before makes me a feminist, and I wear that label proudly.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis.
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#23. To: PSUSA (#19)
It's not usually reasonable to expect them to have done so. Youth isn't wasted on the young; they need it to survive their stupidity. Many moons ago I almost joined out of (what I now know was misguided) a sense of patriotism. My folks talked me out of it, which was their job, and for which I am thankful.
But giving them the benefit of the doubt, the people that enlisted didn't do their homework. .
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#24. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#23)
This is true. Perhaps I was too harsh on them. I was young and dumb too. I remember back then that I thought war was "cool". I loved war movies. Especially ones involving fighter planes. Even now I could probably ID any fighter past or present except for WW1. It took a while until I realized that it wasn't a video game, 3 lives for a quarter. Your parents may have saved your life. .
It's not usually reasonable to expect them to have done so.
It's a fine line between being too specific and long winded and therefore too irritating to bother to read, and being too cryptic and therefore too irritating to try to interpret.
It's a forum post, not a doctoral thesis.
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#25. To: IndieTX (#21)
That's an excellent website but I can't read it just now. Every time I think about our nanny govt wasting billions on Prohibition of reefa it makes me wanna single out some asshole and do horrible shit to him.
#26. To: PSUSA. all (#12)
We will lose. The taliban will win. No one in Amen.
recent recorded history has ever taken that country. There is a reason for that. That reason is: they dont know the meaning of the word "quit". They will fight until we are either gone, or everyone is dead.
#27. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
A few years ago I was sitting in the barber shop as my wife was across the street busting her ass chipping ice off the sidewalk, and some of my buddies asked how I could let her do that. Well, after I explained that I was helping her reach her full potential as any enlightened husband would do, well the boyz were ready to heave me up on their shoulders! And, when I see a gal with a flat tire on the side of a road in a blinding rainstorm, I'm actually thrilled that she'll have the chance to prove herself! I drive by and give her a thumbs and sometimes I'll even yell, "You've got your own cigarette now, baby!" Then I roll the window up quickly so I don't get cold or wet. Brrrr. Yep. I am all for equal rights for women too. "You've got your own cigarette now, baby!" LOL!
I'm a firm believer in equality for wives, which as I explained before makes me a feminist, and I wear that label proudly.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
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