Woman Dragged to Tribunal, Called a Nazi After Refusing To Wax Transgender in Her Home
By Shaun Hair
Published July 19, 2019 at 4:23pm
This story is difficult to write.
Its really hard to get my arms around it. Im not sure how to approach it.
Thats probably how Marcia Da Silva felt when transgender Jessica Yaniv, a biological man who identifies as female, sought services from her salon and asked for a Brazilian wax on his very not female private parts.
When Yaniv demanded that he be handled according to Da Silvas advertised wax service, Da Silva refused, saying she was not comfortable with waxing around male genitalia and had not been trained to navigate those waters.
Yaniv didnt like the response, but it wasnt entirely unexpected: One of Yanivs pastimes is finding salons that wont provide a male part waxing and filing formal human rights complaints against the owners.
And since Yaniv lives in Canada, thats a thing Yaniv gets to do.
According to the National Post, the hearing was intense. The British Columbian Human Rights Tribunal devolved in repeated outbursts and name calling as it considered Yanivs complaint.
During testimony, Yaniv went so far as to compare Da Silva to a neo-Nazi.
The lawyer for [Da Silva] accused the complainant of engaging in half-truths and fabrications,' the Post reported. Tribunal adjudicator Devyn Cousineau frequently had to interject to maintain decorum and to keep the hearing from careening off course.
Ironically, the fear of careening off course is what started the whole mess. The question before the tribunal which is expected to rule in the case in a few weeks was whether a business could deny service on the basis of gender identity. Yaniv, who was frustrated and likely unwaxed, argued that to allow businesses to do such a thing would be a dangerous precedent.
You cannot choose who your clientele is going to be, Yaniv said.
And since Yaniv lives in Canada, thats a thing Yaniv gets to say.
Da Silvas lawyer told the tribunal that ruling against his client would be tantamount to ordering intimate services against someones will.
Da Silva testified she had just started her home-based business after previously performing waxes on family and friends, the Post reported. Yaniv was the first person to respond to her ad, according to Da Silva.
Yaniv, who has filed over a dozen of these complaints against salons, self-describes as a digital marketing expert and LGBTQ activist. In a recent non-waxing related activist episode, Yaniv engaged in an online war of words with free-speech advocate Lindsay Shepherd. As a result, Twitter banned Shepherd but not Yaniv.
https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1151696738455052288
Da Silvas lawyer told the tribunal that Yaniv had used a misleading Facebook profile as a pregnant woman when she first inquired about the waxing. When asked why a Brazilian wax, a waxing service typically performed on women, was sought rather than a brozilian, a waxing performed on males, Yaniv claimed to have both sets of genitalia a claim that Da Silvas lawyer called misleading and a fabrication. Yaniv offered no evidence to prove the claim.
In what should have been one of the most obvious and determinative defenses to the tribunal, Da Silva said she had no problem with LGBT but that she was just not comfortable waxing male genitals.
Me neither, girl. I feel you.
Da Silva said the idea also did not sit well with her husband.
As a husband, I concur with her husband.
Further, Da Silva said she didnt have any experience doing it and was put out and scared by the persistent messages she was receiving from Yaniv.
For my safety, I said, No,' she told the tribunal.
Speaking of safety, Ive never partaken in the activity that is a Brazilian (or brozilian) wax, so I cannot pretend to be an expert on such things. But I am certain of this: I dont want some waxing newb learning the ropes when its my turn in the chair.
Poster Comment:
Roll the dice and if you get snake eyes you lose.
#1: ghostdogtxn To: BTP Holdings (#0)
ghostdogtxn posted on 2019-07-20 02:47:10 Reply Private Reply
#2: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#0)
People have no sense of proportion, irony, humility or normalcy anymore. 'Yaniv' has to be a Ukrainian or Georgian version of (((Janov))), mebbe Russian.
NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-07-20 06:47:41 Reply Private Reply
#3: Pinguinite To: BTP Holdings (#0)
But seriously, the refusal to do the service was not due to "gender identity" contrary to the question befoer the tribunal. It was due to "gender". The guy had male genitalia. She should have said, and pretty much did say, "Go get your surgery and then come back and see me".
Pinguinite posted on 2019-07-20 07:10:06 Reply Private Reply
#4: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#2)
Those three countries are fairly close together. I am not too sure about what makes them different except for language. But I am sure there are also cultural differences. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-07-20 11:03:58 Reply Private Reply
#5: BTP Holdings To: Pinguinite (#3)
I can't imagine why a guy would want to cut off his nuts. :-O
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-07-20 11:16:04 Reply Private Reply
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Dakmar posted on 2019-07-20 11:29:58 Reply Private Reply
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-07-20 12:23:40 Reply Private Reply
#8: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#7)
I worked with a Ukrainian-American. Not too sure when his family came over here, but he still lived in Uke Village in Chicago where many of the Ukrainians settled when they first came here. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-07-20 13:03:27 Reply Private Reply
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-07-24 08:26:59 Reply Private Reply
#10: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#9)
I really have no idea. But there were many ethnic pockets. I lived in Germantown. The local barbershop had a sign in the window in German wir sprechen Deutsch.
There was a really good German restaurant but I heard after 42 years they closed down last year. :-/
One German guy lived down the street. He had a Shetland pony in his garage. In Germany if you owned a horse you were considered to be wealthy.
He was an insurance broker. He had insured a business but was pocketing the premium. When the business burned down, there was no policy. They found him hung in the horse stall/garage the next day. :-O
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-07-24 09:29:50 Reply Private Reply
#11: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#10)
It's infuriating how many fave businesses of mine have closed since 2008. I majorly blame W and Obongo.
NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-07-24 09:37:55 Reply Private Reply