White House Endorses Seizing Citizens Guns
Dec 20, 2018
By: Teresa Mull
President Trumps Commission on School Safety just released a report with recommendations for how to address school safety and violence. Seizing guns is among the commissions suggestions.
The report says:
The Commission endorses Extreme Risk Protection Order laws, which give authorities a temporary way to keep those who threaten society from possessing or purchasing firearms.
Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs), also known as Red Flag Gun Confiscation laws, have taken effect in some states already. Gun owners across the country are having their guns seized by law enforcement, as Dudley Brown, president of the National Association for Gun Rights put it, simply on the pretense of a tip from someone you may not even know.
Fox News reported in July more than 450 Florida residents had been ordered to give up their guns under the new law. In Jacksonville, one gun owner has already had 23 guns seized, and ten ERPO cases are pending. In New Jersey earlier this year, police invaded a veterans home on the basis of something a child overheard at school and attempted to confiscate his guns without a warrant. One county in Washington State just announced officers seized 466 guns in 2018 alone.
Breitbart.com reports:
The White House School Safety Commissions report will be released this week, and it will include calls for such confiscatory laws. On December 18, 2018, Breitbart News quoted Education Secretary Betsy DeVoss preview of the report, saying, Our report endorses states adoption of extreme risk protection orders, which temporarily restrict access to firearms to individuals found to be a danger to themselves or others.
DeVos stressed that the White House wants the confiscatory orders structured in a way that is cognizant of due process protections and respectful of Second Amendment liberties.
Four Scary Facts
Gunpowder Magazine has repeatedly sounded the alarm on red flag laws, and reminds its readers of these four scary facts regarding ERPOs:
Law-abiding gun owners are guilty until proven innocent under ERPOs.
These bills open the floodgates for vindictive family members, friends, or John Q. Public to accuse you of almost anything as justification to take your firearms. They can take these accusations to court, even though youve never been charged with or convicted of a crime. At that point, you are on defense to try to convince the judge why you should be able to keep your guns and your Second Amendment rights
ERPOs open up a Pandoras Box of ways for cunning lawyers and conniving family members to exploit gun owners.
Red flag ERPO bills have been written so broadly on two fronts that in some instances, people are given near-endless possibilities by which to use the legal system to persecute gun owners. The list of what violations you can be reported for is all over the place. If you made a comment to someone or seemed depressed, virtually raising any type of mental health red flag could end with you battling for your Second Amendment rights in court.
The timeframe for confiscation can go on for months.
ERPOs can last for weeks, months, or up to a year in cases where a gun owner would have to appear for repeated court hearings to try to win back his or her Constitutional rights. In some instances, the government would hold onto your guns for you; other bills have a neutral third party holding onto your guns.
Both political parties are supporting ERPOs.
Many would have you believe that Democrats are leading the charge for gun control in the wake of the horrific schools shootings of 2018. But nothing could be further from the truth. Republicans are leading efforts as well.
#1: Darkwing To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Darkwing posted on 2019-08-04 14:53:11 Reply Private Reply
#2: BTP Holdings To: Darkwing (#1)
She starts asking about guns. I tell her, "There are no guns here. I don't own any guns. Why are you coming HERE asking about guns?"
She said, "That shooting happened out near Denver."
I said, "Denver is a long way from here and why are you coming HERE asking about guns?"
I wonder who dropped a dime on me?
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-08-04 15:45:53 Reply Private Reply
#3: Lod To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Lod posted on 2019-08-04 16:34:03 Reply Private Reply
#4: Lod To: All (#3)
And the insane are the first to shuffle off the edge of civil society, and lash out senselessly at anyone. So now we have leftist political; fodder to politicize who take advantage of mass murder,making another liberal fascist talking point to go against the 2nd amendment? Let them try.
The fact is clear. The authorities cannot keep anyone safe against insanity, whether it comes from a lefty shooter firing onto a baseball diamond full of Congressmen in Washington, or a nut case firing on defenseless civilians in a Walmart shopping mall in Texas.
Citizens have to be able to effectively defend themselves against the insane, who historically were released onto the public streets, thanks to democrat policies, closing mental health facilities across the USA.Many live on the streets as home-less people. Many of these crazy shooters over the last few years clearly should have been institutionalized, instead of freely roaming the streets of America, manifesting as demons.As long as that is allowed, we will have mass shootings, and so now American citizens must face the fact that they must encourage private citizens to arm themselves and carry personal defense firearms.
Being armed is the only remedy available, as long as we continue to treat mental illness as lightly as we do according to lefty policies. Why should a whole society live in fear because a population of crazy people are allowed to roam our streets?
The 2nd amendment is not going away anywhere and people will rely on it as they must. America will not give up its freedom at the hands of a puling crowd of leftists like Beto , who would turn Americans into a large herd of passive sheep, entirely dependent on politicians like Beto or worse.
Lod posted on 2019-08-04 16:42:04 Reply Private Reply
#5: titorite To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Kill first and cover it up later. Just ask the tuttles of Houston.
titorite posted on 2019-08-04 16:43:28 Reply Private Reply
#6: BTP Holdings To: titorite, all (#5)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-08-04 16:57:23 Reply Private Reply
#7: Cynicom To: Lod (#4)
Cynicom posted on 2019-08-04 17:19:42 Reply Private Reply
#8: GreyLmist To: BTP Holdings, titorite, 4 (#0)
Deprivation Of Rights Under Color Of Law - The United States Department of Justice
GreyLmist posted on 2019-08-05 19:55:57 Reply Private Reply
#9: BTP Holdings To: GreyLmist (#8)
I hear you about this Color of Law stuff.
The whole trouble is the cops do whatever they want, until the Courts tell them they cannot do it.
Now I was riding in the local city taxi the other day and I stop to pick up a donut at gas station 2 blocks from my destination. On the way back to taxi I picked 2 plastic bottles from the trash.
The taxi driver was complaining and said she would tell them at the office. I told her if she did that and there were any kind of repercussions, it would open a whole can of worms they could not consume and the ACLU would back me on it.
Under the Americas With Disabilities Act they cannot bar me from riding. There was also some recycling in the back of the taxi which I was taking into the workshop. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-08-05 21:15:43 Reply Private Reply