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#1: BTP Holdings    To: Lod (#0)

Pardon Roger Stone - White House Petition

Signed. Thanks Lod. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-11-15 20:45:08   Reply   Private Reply


#2: Pinguinite    To: Lod (#0)

The fate of the country is far more important than the fate of one man. Stone did have a trial, and a jury returned a unanimous guilty verdict. Unless one suggests the trial was somehow unfair or corrupted, then pressuring Trump to pardon him is at best premature. Stone may well be guilty of crimes in what he did even if what he did is basically "normal" in DC. Maybe he was part of the deep state that didn't jump when was told to jump, and therefore is having his "deep state bond" revoked, as it were.

Trump is obviously disgusted with the verdict, which is pretty much accented by his pardon today of those military guys who were convicted of war crimes in Iraq. The timing sends a big message, so there's no reason to pressure Trump to do this.

Stone is not in jail. He is awaiting sentencing, and appeals are likely. If he can delay jail until next year's election then Trump may well pardon him soon after, even if he wins. So there is really no petition needed.

Stone's biggest concern would be only that Trump doesn't die before the elections.

Pinguinite posted on 2019-11-15 21:39:18   Reply   Private Reply


#3: ratcat    To: Pinguinite (#2)

Unless one suggests the trial was somehow unfair or corrupted,

Yes, it was totally corrupt, a kangeroo court where the judge interfered with the selection of jurors. She would not allow Stone's attorney to strike from the jury a woman whose husband was involved with Muller's team investigating Trump. Several of the other jurors are highest level intelligence people - part of the deep state. This has been reported out by experts watching the process. For a few million dollars more, Stone can get the trial overturned. Stone had no chance of any other outcome. Plus the charges against him are a joke, all "process" crimes - most of which are not even illegal.

Now they are going after other conservatives, like Alex Jones. The prosecutor said so today.

ratcat posted on 2019-11-15 23:24:34   Reply   Private Reply