Locked-Down New York State Now Has 17K Coronavirus Deaths or 10 Times the Number of Deaths as Sweden – And They Left Their Economy Open

Source: http://www.hideoutnow.com/2020/04/locked-down-new-york-state-now-has-17k.html
Published: Apr 19, 2020
Author: staff
Post Date: 2020-04-19 11:08:40 by Ada
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New York State now has recorded 17,131 coronavirus deaths.

This came after New York officials dumped another 3,700 “presumed” coronavirus cases to their fatality numbers earlier this week.

New York state has 19.85 million people.

New York state leaders put the entire state in lockdown in March. New York City Mayor de Blasio says the state will not reopen until July or August at the earliest.

Sweden has 1,511 recorded coronavirus deaths.

Sweden has 10.2 million people.

Sweden left its economy open during the coronavirus pandemic.

Sweden is a country half the size of New York State and has one-tenth the coronavirus deaths.

And Sweden will have an economy after the coronavirus pandemic runs its course.

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#1: ghostdogtxn    To: Ada (#0)

ghostdogtxn posted on 2020-04-19 13:48:48   Reply   Private Reply


#2: Ada    To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

New York’s corona death numbers are an accounting trick.

You must be right. They are far out of whack with the rest of the country and, for that matter, the rest of the world.

Ada posted on 2020-04-19 14:31:07   Reply   Private Reply


#3: StraitGate    To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

They are recording every death as a corona death

“Skydiver forgets parachute, dies from coronavirus.”

www.ericpetersautos.com/2...hats-the-number/#comment- 734826

StraitGate posted on 2020-04-19 15:11:42   Reply   Private Reply


#4: Cynicom    To: Ada (#0)

hORSESHIT,,,,The answer or reason is really quite simple for anyone caring to look.

NYC has 12 million people in very densely populated, small area, stacked vertically, Sweden DOES NOT.

""" Stockholm – 1,515,017 Gothenburg – 599,011 Malmö – 316,588 Uppsala – 160,462 Upplands Väsby and Sollentuna urban areasv – 144,826 Västerås – 122,953 Örebro – 120,650 Linköping – 111,267 Helsingborg – 109,869 Jönköping – 96,99

Cynicom posted on 2020-04-19 16:01:00   Reply   Private Reply


#5: randge    To: Ada (#0)

Interesting post on this topic on ZeroHedge today:

Distant_Star 3 hours ago
(Edited)

The Swedish plan is not going to cut it with Stalinist governors and the DNC/ They want POWER.

A far better example is Korea, a country of 50,000,000 people where less than 300 people died since February. They did close some schools and lock down one mid-sized city for a few weeks. Bear in mind that Seoul has a larger population than NYC, but Seoul was never locked down. Instead, they quarantined sick people and the people with whom they came into contact. Many people stayed home unless they had essential business, and mask wear was almost universal.

They did not shut down the economy, imprison the populations of entire provinces, cancel "non-essential/elective" surgery, issue endless dictatorial edicts or any of the other nonsense going on here in the US. ICUs were not overwhelmed and they did not run out of ventilators. In short, they did not fall into the trap of using the "Chinese model."

www.zerohedge.com/health/...t-economy-should-be- left- open#comment_stream

randge posted on 2020-04-19 16:33:39   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Lod    To: Ada, 4um (#0)

from wiki -

New York City (NYC), often called the City of New York or simply New York (NY), is the most populous city in the United States. With an estimated 2018 population of 8,398,748 distributed over about 302.6 square miles (784 km2), New York is also the most densely populated major city in the United States.[10] Located at the southern tip of the U.S. state of New York, the city is the center of the New York metropolitan area, the largest metropolitan area in the world by urban landmass.[11] With almost 20 million people in its metropolitan statistical area and approximately 23 million in its combined statistical area, it is one of the world's most populous megacities.

17K/23M = 0.000739

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#7: AdaC    To: Cynicom (#4)

NYC figures still make no sense as compared with the rest of the world. No more densely packed than London, Paris and especially Shanghai.

AdaC posted on 2020-04-19 17:39:46   Reply   Private Reply


#8: Cynicom    To: randge (#5)

It is of interest as to how many in Seoul died and were buried by the city, unwanted, in mass graves.

One size fits all, does not fit New York City.

Normally NYC buries the unwanted one day a week. At height of deaths they were burying unwanted five days a week, in huge mass graves.

Comparing NYC to Seoul or Stockholm is meaningless.

Cynicom posted on 2020-04-19 17:40:10   Reply   Private Reply


#9: Cynicom    To: AdaC (#7)

NYC figures still make no sense as compared with the rest of the world. No more densely packed than London, Paris and especially Shanghai.

Makes perfect sense...

No other major city in the world holds a polyglot ethnic mix that populates NYC.

Stockholm...Swedes Seoul Koreans...NYC...???

Cynicom posted on 2020-04-19 17:55:37   Reply   Private Reply


#10: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#9)

polyglot ethnic mix that populates NYC.

No doubt about that. From Puerto Ricans, Irish, Italians, Germans and blacks in Harlem. You can't get much more diverse unless you go to Chicago. ;)

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#11: AdaC    To: Cynicom (#9)

All the polyglot NYC mix has shown is that the poor areas of the city are more susceptible than the richer ones. Not quite sure why this is so because the immigrant areas are normally younger and healthier than the old whites. Must have to do with the poor areas being more crowded than the rich.

AdaC posted on 2020-04-19 18:28:23   Reply   Private Reply


#12: AdaC    To: Cynicom (#4)

I have read that most of the Swedish deaths are in the old folks homes, i.e., not among those we have seen sitting in outdoor cafes.

One Swedish man who calls into Rivero thinks that this is intentional to rid the country of the useless eaters to make room for the asylum seekers.

AdaC posted on 2020-04-19 18:32:27   Reply   Private Reply


#13: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#4)

NYC has 12 million people in very densely populated, small area, stacked vertically

Exactly. All the garbage they either put on garbage skows and dump it in the ocean or they put it on rail cars and send it out of state. Very costly to do either. I wonder where they treat the sewage? ;)

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#14: Cynicom    To: AdaC (#11)

There is another factor, NYC has a horrible, increasing STD population.

With less than 30 per cent white population, it is erroneous to compare NYC to any other city of any country.

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#15: Cynicom    To: BTP Holdings (#13)

I wonder where they treat the sewage? ;)

For years they dumped it 50 miles off shore when I lived there and it killed everything. The government stopped that and they loaded it in freight trains to Texas to spread on open territory. The last I knew they were shipping it daily to Florida to spread in the orange groves.

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#16: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#15)

The last I knew they were shipping it daily to Florida to spread in the orange groves.

In Chicago they were drying it and bagging it as a soil amendment and called it NuEarth.

They found out later it was contaminated with heavy metals such as Lead and Arsenic. :-/

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#17: NeoconsNailed    To: Nobody (#15)

I'm wondering how much a problem garbage disposal was when there were only 200 mil Americans -- and 100.

vhemt.org

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#18: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#16)

Wow -- naturally or was it added to spirit more industrial waste out of view? No surprise if ppl are that toxic :-s

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#19: Cynicom    To: BTP Holdings (#16)

Someday check to see where NYC gets its drinking water from.

Cynicom posted on 2020-04-19 19:05:21   Reply   Private Reply


#20: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#19)

where NYC gets its drinking water from

They have an aqueduct that brings water down from up north. It is a big pipe that runs underground. ;)

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#21: Lod    To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

Prolly came from the antique sewer lines, lead was popular back when.

Lod posted on 2020-04-19 19:14:43   Reply   Private Reply


#22: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

was it added to spirit more industrial waste out of view? No surprise if ppl are that toxic

Much of the industrial waste went into the sewage system. Plus the cast iron soil pipes they had to seal the joints with lead. I knew a plumber and he had all the tools to do that. He was quite a guy and was in underwater demolitions during WW II in south Pacific. He told me he got drunk and Vanilla extract once so he would never eat Vanilla ice cream. LOL

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#23: NeoconsNailed    To: Lod (#21)

But NYC has long been famous for -- ironically enuff -- its pure water.

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#24: Cynicom    To: BTP Holdings (#20)

Everything runs into it, they add enough chlorine to kill a horse.

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#25: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#24)

add enough chlorine

Sometimes they put too much chlorine in the water here and you can smell it. I use a water filter with activated charcoal. :-/

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#26: BTP Holdings    To: Lod (#21)

sewer lines

When I worked for the State of Illinois, one of the jobs we had was operating the Vactor to clean catch basins. It was basically a big sucking machine with a fan that made suction thru a tube system. The debris would be shot back into a tank in rear behind the cab. When it would fill with water we could take a drain tube down in back and let some water out.

At the end of the day we had to dump that stinking mess. And believe me it was stinking since those catch basins had a lot of organic matter and mud and fluids from cars and trucks in them.

We called it the "shit wagon" since that is what it smelled like.

One time with the old Vactor (it had cab over) we had the tube in the sewer under Wolf and Golf. The Vactor jumped into reverse. My partner hit the clamp on the tube and disconnected it. I ran around the driver side and mounted it on the run and stopped it before it hit the back up truck.

That was some quick action. The guy that was my partner is dead now. He drank himself to death. His tongue swelled up in his mouth and he choked. :-/

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#27: Ada    To: BTP Holdings (#13)

All the garbage they either put on garbage skows and dump it in the ocean or they put it on rail cars and send it out of state.

We have had garbage treatment plants for a while. From my window I see the barges travelling north to the Wards Island treatment plant.

Ada posted on 2020-04-19 21:20:44   Reply   Private Reply


#28: Cynicom    To: Ada (#27)

We have had garbage treatment plants for a while. From my window I see the barges travelling north to the Wards Island treatment plant.

What happens to what is left over "after treatment"???

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#29: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#26)

Boy, you have really been there and done that :-0

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-19 21:46:42   Reply   Private Reply


#30: NeoconsNailed    To: Cynicom (#28)

What happens to what is left over "after treatment"???

NBC, ABC and CBS send trucks to pick it up, then they broadcast it the next day.

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#31: Cynicom    To: NeoconsNailed (#30)

NBC, ABC and CBS send trucks to pick it up, then they broadcast it the next day.

Excellent.

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#32: randge    To: BTP Holdings (#26)

His tongue swelled up in his mouth and he choked. :-/

I'ma have nightmares after reading that post!

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#33: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#29)

been there and done that

I am lucky to remember any of that since the meningitis wiped out so much memory.

We would do snow plowing in winter. One time the got caught with their pants down on an April 15 snow storm. They were scrambling to spreaders and plows on trucks.

They gave me a truck with a load of salt and a plow. The handed me a shovel and said, "Throw it where you need it." Work that banjo.

And I had to go out on Willow Rd. which was a main drag and do it.

Between the Tri-State Toll Road and Sanders where it turned into Palatine Road Express, there was an elevated curve. I got on the right side which was the high side. I got out of the cab and climbed up on the load of salt and waved traffic from behind and was throwing shovels full of salt off the back. I would pull up maybe 30 or 50 feet and do it again.

We had to do what was necessary to keep traffic moving. ;)

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#34: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#33)

Sounds harrowing!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2020-04-20 08:42:29   Reply   Private Reply


#35: Ada    To: Cynicom (#28)

What happens to what is left over "after treatment"???

Dumped at sea beyond the 12 mile limit

Ada posted on 2020-04-20 09:13:23   Reply   Private Reply


#36: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#34)

Sounds harrowing!

It was their foul up. They had old tractors chained up in the body of a couple of 6 ton trucks. They put plows on the front of them.

They were going down Forestway Drive along the lagoons which was Forest Preserve property. Some guy jumped out of a car and took a picture of the trucks snow plowing with the old tractors chained up in the dump bodies. They had planned on taking the tractors in to be recycled for the steel. That would give them a credit in the budget.

I guess it was unusual to see such a site as that to say the least. ;)

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#37: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#36)

Sheesh, wish I could see that picture!

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#38: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#37)

wish I could see that picture!

We were working Garth Brooks in Iowa City, Iowa. I was standing on front corner of Stage left doing my thing.

People had brought up gifts for Garth and we would put them on corner of stage.

He came over to pick them up. That is when the photographer for Des Moines Register took the picture. I made Page One of Section Two.

I opened the door of the hotel room the morning of the 2nd show to get some breakfast. The door across the hall was open. This girl was in there. When she saw me she started pointing and shouting, "IT'S YOU! IT'S YOU!"

She came running out into the hall still shouting and pointing at the newspaper, "IT'S YOU! CAN I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPH?"

So I signed the paper and went downstairs and cleaned out the paper machine.

Her boyfriend wanted to come down to the corner of the stage and take a picture. I saw him standing by the gate and waved him down. I looked away. When I looked back the cop was hustling him up the stairs. He cane down the stairs and almost knocked the cop flat. The cop threw him out. Someone let him back in.

I told him, "Listen. I said you could come down and take a picture. I didn't say you could be drunk."

When we got back to Chicago, I handed a copy of the newspaper to one of my Supervisors. He held it up and Danny, the boss, said, "Tex this is neat. I'm going to cut it out and hang it in the office."

Any copies of that newspaper were in the dresser drawers of my furniture when it disappeared from the house in Golden City. :-/

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#39: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#38)

Oh, how sad -- that last part! Try the Register's archive -- some papers are digitizing their whole history.

What a fun story tho! Prolly not your 1st groupie by any means ;)

The Register has the full complement of comics, and I'm avidly catching up with Garfield

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/go-comics/? amu=/garfield/2020/04/15

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#40: Ada    To: Cynicom (#14)

With less than 30 per cent white population,

We are not that bad, Cyni

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...ntage_of_white_population

Ada posted on 2020-04-20 11:35:41   Reply   Private Reply


#41: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#39)

Prolly not your 1st groupie by any means

We used to mess with the groupies in Chicago. These were the people that loved the band but did not have the connections to get back stage passes.

First we would tell them, "We might be able to get you back stage." And they would say, "Really?"

Then we would tell them, "Yeah, and we might even let you speak into the microphone." And they would say, "Wow!"

I told that story to Santa last Christmas and he was wide-eyed. ROTFLOL

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#42: Cynicom    To: Ada (#40)

We are not that bad, Cyni

One has to remember that in NYC there are untold thousands of people that appear nowhere on paper, other than arrests count. Indicator? Look at the hundreds buried recently as unwanted.

If Ada voted for Ed Koch, you voted against a friend of mine?????????

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#43: NeoconsNailed    To: BTP Holdings (#41)

I guess we'll never know what the twits would say into the mic ;)

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#44: BTP Holdings    To: NeoconsNailed (#43)

the mic

That word was a euphemism for a male part of the anatomy.

You've got to give something to get something. LOL

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#45: Esso    To: BTP Holdings, NeoconsNailed, 4um (#44)

the mic

That word was a euphemism for a male part of the anatomy.

Well, they're kinda shaped the same.

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#46: NeoconsNailed    To: Esso (#45)

WHAT? I've never heard that -- tho' I'm a bit irked with meself for spelling it that trendy, half-witted new way.

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#47: Ada    To: Cynicom (#42)

If Ada voted for Ed Koch, you voted against a friend of mine?????????

Never voted for Koch, but can't remember who ran against him. Assuming he was a Republican, I probably voted for him.

Ada posted on 2020-04-21 09:09:48   Reply   Private Reply


#48: Cynicom    To: Ada (#47)

John Esposito State Rep. from Queens.

No one would run against Koch so John was "chosen" by party. Koch million and half votes, John got 49,000.

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#49: Ada    To: Cynicom (#48)

No one would run against Koch so John was "chosen" by party

"Some qualified Republican who's willing to lose" (from Fiorello) We had a Brooklyn friend who ran for judge on the Republican line every so often for the same reason.

Only 10% of registered voters in NYC are Republican. But not many Democrat voters register either. I remember in 2016 some sweet young thing stopped me in the street in front of my apartment asked if I were a registered Democrat and would be willing to sign a petition to get someone on the ballot.

Told her I could not but trying to cheer her up (she looked mighty down), I told her that most of the people on the island voted Democrat so she should have no trouble getting signatures. She said she knew that, but while they voted Democrat, they weren't registered as such.

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