UPDATE:
Boom.
Mic drop.
Nothing left but sunshine and a cool mountain breeze.
So much of my youth was defined by this moronic war. So many of my people I went to school with were wrecked by it.
Its really a monumental event in my life to have it finally over.
Its been going on since I was 16.
Its over now, and the order of nature has reemerged with flawless grace.
Tonight, we raise a glass to the cave-dwelling savages who beat the Jews.
Original article follows.
The Taliban is rolling into Kabul already. No one that I read predicted it would happen this fast.
Bullet point blurbs from mid-afternoon Kabul time:
You know, I could do a live thread.
But I dont really care that much.
Its funny that ZOG has surrendered and its funny to think about a bunch of Tajiki skanks getting gang-raped, but ultimately, this situation doesnt mean anything and it obviously foreshadows something bad for America, or else The Other Biden wouldnt have ordered the surrender.
At this point, as Ive said, the most likely thing probably the only possible explanation is that the Democrats decided that it was no longer worth the resources to occupy Afghanistan. That almost certainly means that theyre going to start some other war Russia or China. But it might mean theyre just planning on invading America.
I guess I need to say that clearly and definitively: no matter how funny the US Empire losing to the Taliban might be, it doesnt matter.
As far as whether or not the Taliban is literally just going to roll over Kabul frankly, I have no idea. Im not a military strategist, nor have I studied in detail just what kind of structures the US is leaving in place in Kabul. But just from a common sense perspective, if the Taliban controls the entire country outside of Kabul, with more or less 100% support of the population, it doesnt really seem feasible that Kabul could stand for very long.
I mean, just as a practical matter, even if you have an extreme fortress, you still have to ship in food. And the Taliban now controls the skies with hijacked Blackhawks!
#1: randge To: Ada (#0)
Although a guy can sympathize with the general direction of this screed, some of the language in it is just plain despicable.
Now all the womenfolk in Afghanistan will be covered in bags, be treated like cattle, and yes, will be raped. That's no damned joke.
And yet another nation is subjugated to the worst form of that cult centered around the book which is championed by that liar and brigand Mohammed.
We should have kept our damned noses out of it, and the writer is right. The little hats want us there, wherever we can stir up chaos, never to win anything.
randge posted on 2021-08-15 10:59:39 Reply Private Reply
#2: Lod To: Ada, 4um (#0)
Lod posted on 2021-08-15 11:02:18 Reply Private Reply
#3: Ada To: randge (#1)
Maybe that's what mysoginst Anglin's fantasy is but the Taliban has stated that the women can have jobs, get educated, etc. just so long as they wear the hijab.
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 11:21:52 Reply Private Reply
#4: Ada To: Lod (#2)
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 11:27:05 Reply Private Reply
#5: Esso To: Ada (#3)
Yeah, ya gotta start somewhere.
15 days to slow the spread. Year Two.
Esso posted on 2021-08-15 11:31:07 Reply Private Reply
#6: Pinguinite To: Ada (#3)
If true, it completely contradicts what we've been told about the Taliban for years. They have, reportedly, blown up schools that were used to teach even young girls how to do basics. My impression is they view the proper role of females to be cooking, cleaning, bearing and raising kids, and that's it.
Given their reputation, what the Taliban "states" is worth about as much as what Biden says.
Pinguinite posted on 2021-08-15 11:42:08 Reply Private Reply
#7: Pinguinite To: Ada (#4)
I'm of the opinion that we won in Afghanistan as much as any other foreign power could possibly win, short of nuking the entire place. Afghanistan is a desolate place. Has anyone ever seen a photo of the landlocked country that wasn't at least 80% rocks? Perhaps it's little wonder they've evolved a religious faith that contorts impoverished living and oppression as a virtue, and that ideology is what has made Taliban doctrine so acceptable.
Pinguinite posted on 2021-08-15 11:46:16 Reply Private Reply
#8: randge To: Ada (#3)
Sure. So they can work, go to school, etc. They do not have to go around (by law) entirely covered in a burka.
But do not think that these women will be as free as we are accustomed to think of being free. They'll get ticketed at the least for not wearing approved head covering. They will still be subject to a male guardian of the household, and will probably not be able to travel without his say so.
These will be official restrictions that one might expect in big cities. What do you imagine life will be like in the countryside where more traditional customs prevail?
It's Islam. It's shariah. I've seen it. It's shit.
But, yeah. In any case, it's none of our business.
randge posted on 2021-08-15 11:49:03 Reply Private Reply
#9: Ada To: randge (#8)
And, yes, it is none of our business.
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 12:27:04 Reply Private Reply
#10: Ada To: Pinguinite (#7)
I've been there and its mostly desert or semi desert. Not completely so as wild melons for some reason were able to grow along the roadside.
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 12:31:10 Reply Private Reply
#11: BTP Holdings To: Ada (#9)
That seems bass ackwards to me.
What is up with Sharia law over there?
One of my state transport drivers was at a hot air balloon festival. They were giving helicopter rides for $50.
He told me, "I was sitting in a porta john. A helicopter flew overhead and for a moment I thought I was back in Afghanistan."
Holy flashbacks, Batman. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2021-08-15 13:24:44 Reply Private Reply
#12: Ada To: BTP Holdings (#11)
KIM that Afghanistan is not one culture--at least 4 separate ethnic groups: asiatic, Semites, Aryan and one other which I forget and they all have different viewpoints. The Pashtun were all pederasts but the Taliban were religious scholars (some say zealots) who got the approval of some of the families when they went in and rescued the kidnapped boys from the Pashtun. The Taliban also eliminated the opiium trade until the US came un and resurrected it.
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 14:06:59 Reply Private Reply
#13: BTP Holdings To: Lod (#2)
I heard a story about Vietnam. There was a VC wearing his black pajamas walking across the rice paddy.
I think it was a Marine in the base camp spotted him and started shooting with a .50 cal on semi-auto.
When the rounds started to hit, the VC started running. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2021-08-15 15:55:36 Reply Private Reply
#14: Lod To: Ada (#10)
Lod posted on 2021-08-15 16:44:08 Reply Private Reply
#15: Ada To: Lod (#14)
Being in the middle of Central Asia, it has a strategic importance.
Ada posted on 2021-08-15 17:18:03 Reply Private Reply
#16: Lod To: Ada (#15)
Lod posted on 2021-08-15 17:35:34 Reply Private Reply
#17: Lod To: Ada, Esso, all (#16)
All Biden Had to Do Was Nothing
by John Podhoretz
All Joe Biden had to do was nothing. Had Joe Biden done nothing, Afghanistan would not have fallen to the Taliban today. Had he just let the status quo continue, the status quo would have continued.
Afghanistan would have plodded along and we would have kept the Taliban from power with a small force of American military personnel among whose ranks there had not been a single fatality since March 202017 months without a death. Keep that in mind as you listen to and watch people try to analyze away the horror that has befallen the Afghan people. The idea being retailed by the increasingly defeatist left and the increasingly isolationist right is that what has happened was inevitable. It was the opposite of inevitable. It wouldnt have happened if Biden hadnt acted.
In so acting, Biden has cast the future of American foreign policy into the worst state of disrepair since the last helicopter-carries-people-to-the-airport-to-flee-the-country scene 46 years ago. I am not saying we havent been in parlous condition during that time. Obviously the meltdown in Iraq in 2005-2006 was a disastrous period; the revelation that weapons of mass destruction we believed had been made by Iraq in the years between the end of the first war there and the beginning of the second likely didnt exist was a body blow.
But here we have an American president announcing in April that we were pulling out of a country to end a war in which we havent been engaging in conventional old-time combat for years because, apparently, we just had to. Biden wanted to be the one to end the war, and he did so with tough love: The Afghan army was going to have to stand on its own. The time had come for the teenager to leave home, get his own apartment, get a job, and start paying rent.
Smart talk. But Biden also assured Americans in July that they would not see a second Saigon 1975. Asked on July 7 about a possible parallel to the moment when U.S. helicopters evacuated embassy personnel on April 30, 1975, the president said, None whatsoever. Zero .The Taliban is not the South, the North Vietnamese army. Theyre nottheyre not remotely comparable in terms of capability. Theres going to be no circumstance where youre going to see people being lifted off the roof of our embassy.
Thirty-six days after he said it, we saw it. And the really awful part is, this was entirely predictablebecause everybody I know predicted it. We didnt know when exactly. But we knew it was coming. If we knew it, they knew it. If they didnt know it, its because they chose not to know it. Or decided to let the chips fall where they may. Now the chips have fallen with one of the most evil political forces the world has ever seen back in charge of the government from which we rousted them 20 years ago.
We stand exposed today not as a country that finally exited a war we could no longer even imagine a victory in, as had been the case in 1975. Rather, we are revealed as a country led by a feckless president who chose to refuse to grapple with the obvious potential consequences of a decision he wanted to make so he could be declared a war-ender and a peace-maker. History will declare him something else, something worse, something darker. The real horror for Afghanis is that history will begin to make its declaration about Joe Biden this week, as the Taliban begin working their depravity on the them and the nation from which we once rightly took great national pride in having liberated.
As for the United States and its foreign policy, we are in uncharted territory. No country has ever really done what we did here. No country has ever deliberately chosen and charted a course into its own humiliation when there was no national demand for withdrawal above all things. After all, nobody much seemed to care about Afghanistan either way any longersave for the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have ennobled us through their sacrifices and the heroics they have performed over the past 20 years. It was they who stuffed the genie of Islamist terrorism back in its rancid bottle and spared us untold tragedies, disasters, and nightmares. God bless them. Now we may find ourselves, in the 2020s, living through the very nightmares they saved us from.
Lod posted on 2021-08-15 17:46:50 Reply Private Reply
#18: BTP Holdings To: Ada (#15)
The Khyber Pass was a part of the old Silk Road. Marco Polo traveled that route to bring silk back to Europe. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2021-08-15 18:03:58 Reply Private Reply
#19: Lod To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#18)
www.silk-road.com/artl/marcopolo.shtml/
Lod posted on 2021-08-15 21:40:36 Reply Private Reply