But as is, Russia is the heroic underdog standing up to the one-world gov that the US deep state would have us live under.

Though given what are the obvious proven failings within the USA of having an election based government, we may perhaps recognize the advantage of a pseudo-monarchy as Russia sort of has with Putin. Whether by election stealing or de facto popularity, Putin will run Russia for as long as he wants to, but if that means standing up to our Deep State, central banking powers, and cultural degradation then maybe that's not such a bad thing.

Putin Scrubbed From WEF Members List

March 2, 2022

Is the WEF trying to hide the fact that this entire conflict has been engineered in order to further the goals of the Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution?

www.renegadetribune.com/putin-scrubbed-from-wef-members-list/

World Leaders Agree To Implement Vaccine Passports

Nov 17, 2022

The leaders from 20 countries at the recent G20 Summit signed a declaration which states they agree to adopt vaccine passports to “facilitate” all international travel. 

The current membership of the G20 accounts for more than 66 percent of the world’s population and includes Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, Japan, India, Indonesia, Italy, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States, and European Union. 

The two-day summit concluded in Bali, Indonesia yesterday and consisted of talks between the G20 member countries. Klaus Schwab, World Economic Forum (WEF) Chair, also attended. 

The G20 Bali Leaders’ Declaration, signed by leaders from all the countries, included a section (s.23) on “facilitating seamless international travel.” It acknowledged the importance of shared technical standards and verification methods which includes vaccine passports. It also includes the leaders “support continued international dialogue and collaboration on the establishment of trusted global digital health networks that should capitalize and build on the success of the existing standard and digital COVID-19 certificates.” ...

lc.org/newsroom/details/1...ement-vaccine-passports-1

G20’s globalist “pledge” commits to vaccine passports, digital currency & much, much more

This past week saw G20’s annual meeting taking place in Bali, with the leaders of the world’s 20 largest economies signing a pledge that commits to:

“Reform” food production and distribution
Increase surveillance and censorship of “disinformation” on the internet
Increase global reliance on “renewable” energy sources
Introduce programmable digital currencies
Introduce international digital vaccine passports

...to those who still believe Russia is fighting the good fight against the globalist baddies in Ukraine – Russia is a member of the G20 and signed the pledge.

As did China, along with every other member of BRICS.

There are no heroes here, they are all in it together …but their war sure made for a good distraction, didn’t it?

www.theburningplatform.co...-currency-much-much-more/

World leaders agree to cattle-tag the planet

Washington and Moscow put aside their differences for the greater good

Edward Slavsquat

Nov 18, 2022

By all accounts, the G20 summit in Bali was a smashing success. After tireless multipolar efforts, the famed intergovernmental forum announced the creation of a global health-preserving Pandemic Fund sponsored by the WHO, the World Bank, Bill Gates, and the Rockefeller Foundation. The fund will ensure there is plenty of money for experimental genetic vaccines in the weeks, months, and decades ahead.

In the same spirit of cooperation, Moscow suggested enveloping the whole world in Virus-detecting kiosks—a proposal based on Russia’s own “sanitary shield” program...

If you want to read the whole thing, you can download the PDF generously hosted on the Kremlin’s official website:... ( en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69844 )...

After Russia signed this historic document, Dmitry Peskov told reporters that the Kremlin thought the declaration was “constructive” and “balanced.”

It’s truly heart-warming that even amidst ceaseless geopolitical squabbling, Moscow and the Collective West can sit down at the negotiating table, break bread, and agree to cattle-tag the entire world.

All freedom will be lost when the war is won...

edwardslavsquat.substack....aders-agree-to-cattle-tag

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RUSSIA WINS

AMERICA LOSES

or at least that's THEIR plan...

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www.renegadetribune.com/the-ukraine-war-explained-infographic/

The truth is, this war has been in the works for decades

Well you're right about that at least.

As the CIA has been working with the old Nazi and OUN Ukrainian groups since the end of WWII, and using them to spy on the Soviets, they didn't cut the umbilical cord when the USSR collapsed.

Hell no, they continued to "work" with them to foment unrest in Ukraine, leading up to the overthrow of the elected government of Ukraine back in 2014.

They KNEW that those who overthrew the government strongly leaned towards Nazi ideology and hated Russians, of which Eastern Ukraine largely consisted of since all that territory had been part of Russia for centuries, perhaps millennia.

They were on a mission to provoke Russia, to have it take action that could then be portrayed as an "unprovoked invasion".

Hence the atrocities committed by Azov Battalion and other like minded "militias" since 2014 against the people of Eastern Ukraine. The Ukraine government was getting ready to initiate "the final solution" set to begin in March of 2022.

That is why Russia recognized the independence of the Donbass and Lugansk republics in February of last year and entered those areas to defend the people of those republics.

Anyone paying attention knows this.

And let's not forget who controls the U.S., including the Pentagon

Zakheim and Chabad Lubavitch Dedicate Talmud To Pentagon Memorial of 911

Jun 25, 2008

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=8834.htm

They can't rule until Christian America is first destroyed.

Nobody survives global thermonuclear war.

That's why I'm strongly thinking that those behind it are extraterrestrial or extradimensional.

You are talking about a country that masticated half of Europe in its dragon jaws till a few decades ago. Is historical memory that dead around here?

Not at all. But Russia is no longer communist. Under Soviet rule, only party members could vote, which was about 5% of the population. Now, everyone can vote. Not that that makes it a perfectly representative government and that there is no corruption about, but it does make Russia no different than the USA. The bottom line is right now, they are an underdog and the USA is no friend to any European country. Case in point: Bombing the Nord Stream pipeline makes countries that were dependent upon Russia now without choice dependent upon US sources or US controlled sources for gas. Does our gov care about people in Europe? No. Nor does it care about Ukrainians. I'm not sure that the US of today is better than the USSR of yesterday. Both sought/seek to dominate the world.

But Russia is no longer communist.

That just takes the cake -- really does ;)

And I still think Trump should have taken up Putin on his offer to "work together to fight the evil in the world." ;)

And I still think Trump should have taken up Putin on his offer to "work together to fight the evil in the world."

That was the US plan ever since the Soviet Union broke up in 1991.

We wouldn't be in the mess we're in, had they stuck to it. Filling the gov't up with a bunch of homo/pedo/freaks wasn't such a good idea.

takes the cake

Russia is an oligarchy. That is just one step above them being Communist. ;)

since the Soviet Union broke up in 1991

Yes that is true.

In the meantime, Russia has been saddled with the likes of Boris Yeltsin.

In the background there has always been the oligarchs like Khordokovsky. ;)

In the meantime, Russia has been saddled with the likes of Boris Yeltsin.

At no point in USSR/Russian history, during my lifetime, have they ever had a leader as bad as the Bidet.

In the background there has always been the oligarchs like Khordokovsky.

Like we don't have that problem? Ever hear of George Soros? Pfizer? Bill Gates?

Russia is an oligarchy.

So is the US.

That is just one step above them being Communist.

Exactly where we're at.

What makes them Nazis exactly? There are no slaughters of jews in the news.

Do you have Alzheimer's? Just a month or so ago I just provided a mountain of historical facts, along with documented and proven evidence of Ukraine's ties to Nazi ideology, going back to WWII up to modern day times.

Perhaps you could call them NEO-NAZI since they're not exactly like German Nazis of WWII, whose side they took at the time, in that they don't necessarily hate Jews.

They consider themselves to be a master race and are entitled to what they perceive to be THEIR land, that being various parts of Poland, Hungary, Galacia, and Lithuania. They've been fighting over it for centuries.

Anything east of the Dnieper River was always Russia prior to the creation of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Republic of Ukraine was formed out of western parts of Russia and those parts of Poland and Hungary that are now Western Ukraine.

But to the point. They see Russians as sub-humans, calling them "orcs". A Ukraine military doctor said that all doctors will treat soldiers who are wounded, except if they are Russian, since they're not considered human. In fact he said that they should be castrated.

They began a campaign of genocide against Eastern Ukraine after the US instigated coup in 2014 installed a puppet regime loyal to Washington, and the Eastern Republics declared their independence from Kiev that same year.

The people who took over the Ukraine government celebrate a WWII Nazi affiliated war criminal, head of the Ukraine OUN, Stephan Bandera, as a NATIONAL HERO.

His group, which also consisted of a militarized unit called the UPA was responsible for the horrific rape, torture, and murder of around 100,000 Polish women and children from 1943 to 1945 to "ethnically cleanse" the Polish from what they considered to be Ukrainian territory.

And yes, the western Ukrainians loved the German Nazis so much they joined them and formed Ukrainian SS divisions during WWII.

And yes, the CIA had supported and assisted the Ukrainian Nazis and OUN since the end of WWII, protecting them from prosecution for war crimes and hiding them if necessary, in order to use them for espionage purposes against the Soviet Union.

They didn't stop when the Cold War ended. Since the Russian Federation has made a remarkable turnaround under Putin, they decided that it was in the way of their desire for global domination.

Thus they plotted a color revolution against the Ukraine government in order to install their puppets into power, who were obviously huge fans of Stephan Bandera and his OUN. Look up the parties that took over, Svobada and Right Sector. They are hardcore Neo-Nazis.

Our government, or at least the crazed neocons in our government, have installed a regime in Ukraine that is hostile to not just Russia, but to RUSSIANS in general, including those who reside in Ukraine. All for the purpose of provoking a reaction from Russia which they could then call an "unprovoked invasion".

But you probably already knew all that..

I think you should change it to be more concise, something like "NeoconIAm".

Because you certainly act and speak like a DC neocon.

From Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine

State-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators

“Ukrainian extremists celebrate Ukrainian Nazi SS divisions…in the middle of a major Ukrainian city”—Anti-Defamation League Director of European Affairs, April 28, 2018

It’s not just the military and street gangs: Ukraine’s far right has successfully hijacked the post-Maidan government to impose an intolerant and ultranationalist culture over the land.

In 2015, the Ukrainian parliament passed legislation making two WWII paramilitaries—the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)—heroes of Ukraine, and made it a criminal offense to deny their heroism. The OUN had collaborated with the Nazis and participated in the Holocaust, while the UPA slaughtered thousands of Jews and 70,000- 100,000 Poles on their own volition.

The government-funded Ukrainian Institute of National Memory is institutionalizing the whitewashing of Nazi collaborators. Last summer, the Ukrainian parliament featured an exhibit commemorating the OUN’s 1941 proclamation of cooperation with the Third Reich (imagine the French government installing an exhibit celebrating the Vichy state!).

Torchlight marches in honor of OUN/UPA leaders like Roman Shukhevych (a commander in a Third Reich auxiliary battalion) are a regular feature of the new Ukraine. The recuperation even extends to SS Galichina, a Ukrainian division of the Waffen-SS; the director of the Institute of National Memory proclaimed that the SS fighters were “war victims.” The government’s embrace of Bandera is not only deplorable, but also extremely divisive, considering the OUN/UPA are reviled in eastern Ukraine.

Predictably, the celebration of Nazi collaborators has accompanied a rise in outright anti-Semitism.

“Jews Out!” chanted thousands during a January 2017 march honoring OUN leader Bandera. (The next day the police denied hearing anything anti-Semitic.) That summer, a three-day festival celebrating the Nazi collaborator Shukhevych capped off with the firebombing of a synagogue. In November 2017, RFE reported Nazi salutes as 20,000 marched in honor of the UPA. And last April, hundreds marched in L’viv with coordinated Nazi salutes honoring SS Galichina; the march was promoted by the L’viv regional government.

The Holocaust revisionism is a multi-pronged effort, ranging from government-funded seminars, brochures, and board games, to the proliferation of plaques< /a>, statues, and streets renamed after butchers of Jews, to far-right childr en camps, where youth are inculcated with ultranationalist ideology.

Within several years, an entire generation will be indoctrinated to worship Holocaust perpetrators as national heroes.

Book bans

“No state should be allowed to interfere in the writing of history.”—British historian Antony Beevor, after his award-winning book was banned in Ukraine, The Telegraph, January 23, 2018

Ukraine’s State Committee for Television and Radio Broadcasting is enforcing the glorification of Ukraine’s new heroes by banning “anti- Ukrainian” literature that goes against the government narrative. This ideological censorship includes acclaimed books by Western authors.

In January 2018, Ukraine made international headlines by banning Stalingrad by award-winning British historian Antony Beevor because of a single paragraph about a Ukrainian unit massacring 90 Jewish children during World War II. In December, Kiev banned The Book Thieves by Swedish author Anders Rydell (which, ironically, is about the Nazis’ suppression of literature) because he mentioned troops loyal to Symon Petliura (an early 20th-century nationalist leader) had slaughtered Jews.

This month, the Ukrainian embassy in Washington exported this intolerance to America by brazenly demanding the United States ban a Russian movie from American theaters. Apparently, the billions Washington invested in promoting democracy in Ukraine have failed to teach Kiev basic concepts of free speech.

Anti-Semitism

“I’m telling you one more time—go to hell, kikes. The Ukrainian people have had it to here with you.”—Security services reserve general Vasily Vovk, May 11, 2017

Unsurprisingly, government-led glorification of Holocaust perpetrators was a green light for other forms of anti-Semitism. The past three years saw an explosion of swastikas and SS runes on city streets, death threats, and vandalism of Holocaust memorials, Jewish centers, cemeteries, tombs, and places of worship, all of which led Israel to take the unusual step of publicly urging Kiev to address the epidemic.

Public officials make anti-Semitic threats with no repercussions. These include: a security services general promising to eliminate the zhidi (a slur equivalent to ‘kikes’); a parliament deputy going off on an anti-Semitic rant on television; a far-right politician lamenting Hitler didn’t finish off the Jews; and an ultranationalist leader vowing to cleanse Odessa of zhidi.

For the first few years after Maidan, Jewish organizations largely refrained from criticizing Ukraine, perhaps in the hope Kiev would address the issue on its own. But by 2018, the increasing frequency of anti-Semitic incidents led Jewish groups to break their silence.

Last year, the Israeli government’s annual report on anti-Semitism heavily featured Ukraine, which had more incidents than all post-Soviet states combined. The World Jewish Congress, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, and 57 members of the US Congress all vociferously condemned Kiev’s Nazi glorification and the concomitant anti-Semitism.

Ukrainian Jewish leaders are also speaking out. In 2017, the director of one of Ukraine’s largest Jewish organizations published a New York Times op-ed urging the West to address Kiev’s whitewashing. Last year, 41 Ukrainian Jewish leaders denounced the growth of anti-Semitism. That’s especially telling, given that many Ukrainian Jewish leaders supported the Maidan uprising.

None of these concerns have been addressed in any meaningful way.

Roma pogroms

“‘They wanted to kill us’: masked neo-fascists strike fear into Ukraine’s Roma.” —The Guardian, August 27, 2018

Ukraine’s far right has resisted carrying out outright attacks on Jews; other vulnerable groups haven’t been so lucky.

Last spring, a lethal wave of anti-Roma pogroms swept through Ukraine, with at least six attacks in two months. Footage from the pogroms evokes the 1930s: Armed thugs attack women and children while razing their camps. At least one man was killed, while others, including a child, were stabbed.

Two gangs behind the attacks—C14 and the National Druzhina—felt comfortable enough to proudly post pogrom videos on social media. That’s not surprising, considering that the National Druzhina is part of Azov, while the neo-Nazi C14 receives government funding for “educational” programs. Last October, C14 leader Serhiy Bondar was welc omed at America House Kyiv, a center run by the US government.

Appeals from international organizations and the US embas sy fell on deaf ears: Months after the United Nations demanded Kiev end “systematic persecution” of the Roma, a human-rights group reported C14 were allegedly intimidating Roma in a joint patrol with the Kiev police.

LGBT and Women’s-rights groups

“‘It’s even worse than before’: How the ‘Revolution of Dignity’ Failed LGBT Ukrainians.”—RFE, November 21, 2018

In 2016, after pressure from the US Congress, the Kiev government began providing security for the annual Kiev Pride parade. However, this increasingly looks like a Potemkin affair: two hours of protection, with widespread attacks on LGBT individuals and gatherings during the rest of the year. Nationalist groups have targeted LGBT meetings with impunity, going so far as to shut down an event hosted by Amnesty International as well as assault a Western journalist at a transgender rights rally. Women’s-rights marches have also been targeted, including brazen attacks in March.

Attacks on press

“The Committee to Protect Journalists condemns a Ukrainian law enforcement raid at the Kiev offices of Media Holding Vesti…more than a dozen masked officers ripped open doors with crowbars, seized property, and fired tear gas in the offices.”—The Committee to Protect Journalists, February 9, 2018

In May 2016, Myrotvorets, an ultranationalist website with links to the government, published the personal data of thousands of journalists who had obtained accreditation from Russia-backed rebels in eastern Ukraine. Myrotvorets labeled the journalists “terrorist collaborators.”

A government-tied website declaring open season on journalists would be dangerous anywhere, but it is especially so in Ukraine, which has a disturbing track record of journalist assassinations. This includes Oles Buzina, gunned down in 2015, and Pavel Sheremet, assassinated by car bomb a year later.

The Myrotvorets doxing was denounced by Western reporters, the Committee to Protect Journalists, and ambassadors from the G7 nations. In response, Kiev officials, including Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, praised the site: “This is your choice to cooperate with occupying forces,” Avakov told journalists, while posting “I Support Myrotvorets” on Facebook. Myrotvorets remains operational today.

Last fall brought another attack on the media, this time using the courts. The Prosecutor General’s office was granted a warrant to seize records of RFE anti-corruption reporter Natalie Sedletska. An RFE spokeswoman warned that Kiev’s actions created “a chilling atmosphere for journalists,” while parliament deputy Mustafa Nayyem ca lled it “an example of creeping dictatorship.”

Language laws

“[Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk] also made a personal appeal to Russian-speaking Ukrainians, pledging to support…a special status to the Russian language.”—US Secretary of State John Kerry, April 24, 2014

Ukraine is extraordinarily multilingual: In addition to the millions of Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainians, there are areas where Hungarian, Romanian, and other tongues are prevalent. These languages were protected by a 2012 regional-language law.

The post-Maidan government alarmed Russian-speaking Ukrainians by attempting to annul that law. The US State Department and Secretary of State John Kerry sought to assuage fears in 2014 by pledging that Kiev would protect the status of Russian. Those promises came to naught.

A 2017 law mandated that secondary education be conducted strictly in Ukrainian, which infuriated Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece. Several regions passed legislation banning the use of Russian in public life. Quotas enforce Ukrainian usage on TV and radio. (This would be akin to Washington forcing Spanish- language media to broadcast mostly in English.)

And in February 2018, Ukraine’s supreme court struck down the 2012 regional language law—the one Kerry promised eastern Ukrainians would stay in effect.

Bill Gates

He wants to reduce the population of the world "to a more manageable level."

What if we started with him? ;)

What if we started with him?

Fine. Just fucking start.

It seems a lot like Prohibition in Chicago during the 1930s when one gang gunned down members of opposing gangs to gain control of illicit alcohol sales.

But these events in Ukraine go much deeper since in the final analysis they have their roots in ethnic and religious differences. ;)

Its all a staged coordinated setup (NATO/Putin/Zelensky) to prolong the war & slaughter Aryan Ukrainians in accordance with Antifa Russia’s ‘World Without Nazism’ government agency. In August Russia held the ‘First International Anti-Fascist Conference’ where over 70 representatives of various nations attended. The objective of the event was to discuss ‘how to combat ‘neo-nazism’ & fascism throughout the world’–probably via funding/arming of Antifa…

The Jews & Commies fear the pro-white nationalist-fascists & masses of Ukraine (Azov/Right Sector/CI4/SNA etc). Russia is a neo-Bolshevik State dominated by a syndicate of Jewish Oligarchs ruling over a Slavic-Mongol mixed population. The masses of Ukraine are primarily of Germanic descent, thus the animosity the Jews & Russians have towards Ukrainians. So they started this war to avert the ‘white fascists’ from focusing on establishing a Fascist Ethnostate/obtaining power & deposing the internal enemy (Jews)–thus diverting/forcing them to fight/die to defend their nation from an external enemy instead (Antifa Russia). Clever stratagem, but now its been exposed.

The goal of the war is to essentially preserve Jewish control of the Ukrainian State while disabling/debilitating the white nationalist ‘enemy’ via their reduction in war.

The conference did take place. Russia's still stuck in a World War Jew time warp just the USSA is -- awww, muh CONCENTRATION CAMPS!

tass.com/defense/1501587

Russia now exists to fight "fascism" -- that's its main purpose. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black?

This idea of an innocent, valiant Russia fending off "Nazis" "who don't hate Jews" etc is making me think they've put DMT in our local drinking water. First time I've ever heard of a fascist govt headed by a kike.

You people have zero interest in the Soviet subject. It's obvious that it, one of the worst epochs in recorded history, means absolutely nothing to you. Ukraine and the other countries the USSR devoured are so full of Russians for that reason. We in the US have no concept of what it's like to live under such curses. If eastern Ukraine was so all- fired Russian by nature Russia would never have given it up in 1989.

Suddenly you folks are more disturbed by fascism (real or imagined) than any ADL or SPLC den of iniquity except that it's "real" to you, and they're just grifters. Indeed you're more "antifa" than Antifa -- they're just left-terrorists using 'fascism' as a code word for whiteness, public order etc. Are y'all even pro-white anymore? I'm afraid to ask.

The 'fascist' govt you're describing sounds wonderful, except that its "Nazis" "dont hate Jews". Can we trade the the jew-commie USSA setup for something like that?

If the neocons and their masters get their wish, the population in 2025 will be ZERO.

Nobody survives global thermonuclear war.

That's why I'm strongly thinking that those behind it are extraterrestrial or extradimensional.

Interesting.

Was just over at HalTurner ( halturnerradioshow.com/in...d/flash-iran-under-attack ) and saw a comment which seems to suggest what you said:

"...Also, SQ just did one with Greg Hunter (Aliens Created Humans Is the Biggest Lie in the Universe - Steve Quayle
usawatchdog.com/aliens-cr...he-universe-steve-quayle/ "

7-minute Trailer:

Lies of Men and Gods

vimeo.com/776368108

mulling it over while i check out some of the other links

That's why I'm strongly thinking that those behind it are extraterrestrial or extradimensional.

Psst, I'm glad someone else with the guts to say it out loud has been thinking the same thing as I haven't had the balls to say publicly. However, CadetD invited me over to her place yesterday for a delicious burrito and some football action. While I was there I said exactly what you said about there being some extra-dimensional or extraterrestrial force influencing the so called PTB into a suicidal non-future.

Even if we're wrong I'm sure glad someone else has considered the same potential conclusion. I admit that after attempting to understand the actions and activities of not only America but the entire world that seems to be completely off its rocker I am co-signing your appraisal !

That's why I'm strongly thinking that those behind it are extraterrestrial or extradimensional.

Psst, I'm glad someone else with the guts to say it out loud has been thinking the same thing as I haven't had the balls to say publicly. However, CadetD invited me over to her place yesterday for a delicious burrito and some football action. While I was there I said exactly what you said about there being some extra-dimensional or extraterrestrial force influencing the so called PTB into a suicidal non-future.

quick thought, or fragment of thought...

it wouldn't be the first time ... just ran across this tidbit...seems appropriate...

"...The Thessalonian church was comprised primarily of Gentile converts from the pagan cults of Dionysus, Zeus, Asclepius, Aphrodite, Demeter, and perhaps most important, the cult of Cabirus. They were converts from a social and religious milieu in which gods and demons were understood to have control over virtually all aspects of life. “Threatened by powers and demons, by illnesses and unforeseen strokes of fate, one lived in suspense and fear and felt subject to overpowering forces against which one could not assert oneself.” 2 The Thessalonian converts may have thought that the gods and demons who inhabited the air were responsible for the persecution and death suffered in their church. In fear occasioned by the apparent victories of the forces of darkness over them, ...

It seems demons were rampant at the time of Christ, probably desperately trying to thwart God's plan.

Ephesians 6:…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you can make your stand against the devil’s schemes.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places...

biblehub.com/ephesians/6-12.htm

1 Corinthians 2:7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God, which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

biblehub.com/1_corinthians/2-8.htm

Have you seen this video "Demon Spills the Beans"? She/It admits Jesus is coming soon, and they are trying to jab as many as they can with this DOD bioweapon, because then they belong to the "demons" (if they repent the demons lose them).

MUST VIEW!The Covid Jab, Demonic Possession & Hidden Satanic Agenda (Video)

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=139862

I've heard bits and pieces about the possibility of the jab having alien/Luciferian DNA in it, but I'm not clear on that at all. MIGHT it have something to do with...?

2 Thessalonians 2:4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

biblehub.com/2_thessalonians/2-4.htm

The Temple of God now, is the Church.

www.biblehub.com/kjv/1_corinthians/3-16.htm

Lucifer hates God and His creation and everything God stands for. Since "God so loved the world..." (John 3:16), I guess it would make sense he would want to destroy it.

1 Corinthians 2:7No, we speak of the mysterious and hidden wisdom of God, which He destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it. For if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

hmmm...

Micah 4:12But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.

biblehub.com/micah/4-12.htm

Another window open on my computer just happens to be stopped here:

"...The Judeo-Christian Clergy of Organized Religion has told Christians hundreds of times over the years that Zion along and New Jerusalem are Bible names for Heaven. But these teachings become more and more false as we find passages in the scriptures where it is told that both Zion and New Jerusalem in trouble. Which presents an interesting question: How could Heaven be in pain, travail or trouble?

However, all of these scriptures become clear and more understandable when one realizes that the names Zion and New Jerusalem are in actuality the names of the nation of regathered Israel. "And I will make her that

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halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off (Israel) a strong nation: and the Lord (Jesus Christ) shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever." (Micah 4:7) ..."

America is New Jerusalem and New Zion By Willie Martin

I'm a little gun shy about providing certain links.

I don't agree with everything, but think Willie Martin was definitely on to something.

.... felt subject to overpowering forces against which one could not assert oneself.”

This is a predicament many must surely feel. And yes I have seen the video of which you speak. I'm convinced that there are entities sharing our atmosphere like never in our lifetimes before now or not as visibly so.

Our spirituality as a whole has decreased over time to such a point that we're operating as if the material world is all that exists but I'm betting that attitude is about to change drastically.

An indication that all is not lost is the high volume of un-vaxxed that simply knew in their heart (Temple of God) without research they were never going to be vaccinated. (That's not to say they didn't research it's simply to suggest that they didn't have to before they knew it wasn't for them.

Realizing after the fact that the mRNA injection is capable of modifying our human DNA without anyone being informed of this and being coaxed at every turn to "just do it" is evil but much more spiritually malevolent than I can adequately address or express.

The Bible states that we are a "peculiar" people. [origins of peculiar are livestock-related .... The word's Latin ancestor, peculiaris, means "privately owned, extraordinary"; it traces back to pecu, meaning "cattle," by way of peculium, meaning "private property"]

I would offer this: What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

Willie Martin was definitely on to something.

I think that's true. In the end Christ owns us even in the event it wasn't a good deal for him because of our short comings. Over the years I've been witness to His ability to keep His word in my life even when I have failed to do so. It's a case of unconditional love and promise.

Enough preaching !

I believe that Satan and his Demons are hard at their work here on earth.

You have my support, good sir. I believe you have my own thoughts expressed with perfection.

Its all a staged coordinated setup (NATO/Putin/Zelensky) to prolong the war & slaughter Aryan Ukrainians in accordance with Antifa Russia’s ‘World Without Nazism’ government agency.

Are you smoking some real strong shit bud?

Did you forget that the Soviet Union defeated Nazi Germany not that long ago in history?

And that Jewish Bolsheviks had slaughtered the Russian Royal Family in order to seize power over Russia and turned it into a Communist shithole not long before WWI?

Ukrainians and Russians have been getting along just fine until your Queen Victoria Nuland sent about 5 billion US dollars to Neo-Nazi groups like Right Sector and Svoboda in years leading up to the 2014 overthrow of the democratically elected Ukraine government.

Ukraine and the other countries the USSR devoured are so full of Russians for that reason.

It's obvious you're an uneducated idiot. There NEVER existed a nation called Ukraine in history prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Western Ukraine was Poland, Hungary, Galacia. Eastern Ukraine was Russia.

Western Ukraine has been fighting amongst themselves for centuries.

Ukraine is a language that formed over several centuries after splitting from Kievan Rus'. I'm guessing that Galacia was the center of that group, and they consider themselves Ukrainian because of their common language.

But there was no nation called Ukraine ever in history. People in Eastern Ukraine are Russian because that's where their families have existed for centuries, maybe longer.

Was just over at HalTurner ( halturnerradioshow.com/in...d/flash-iran-under-attack ) and saw a comment which seems to suggest what you said:

"...Also, SQ just did one with Greg Hunter (Aliens Created Humans Is the Biggest Lie in the Universe - Steve Quayle usawatchdog.com/aliens-cr...he-universe-steve-quayle/ "

Does God live on Earth?

Or is Heaven somewhere else?

If you can believe in that "somewhere else", then existence there would be an extraterrestrial existence, or an inter-dimensional one.

I've been aware of this for decades, and I never watch Hal Turner.

I admit that after attempting to understand the actions and activities of not only America but the entire world that seems to be completely off its rocker I am co-signing your appraisal !

Once I saw what was going on with Trump, and Syria, and Libya, and 9/11, and JFK, it's impossible for me to think the world is run by sane people with our best interests in mind.

Now with this insanity in Ukraine, and the clot shots, the desire to kill off Humanity, what else could it be than non-human entities, physical or not.

I believe that Satan and his Demons are hard at their work here on earth.

I think you might be correct. Thing is, it's beyond simple movie demons, it's worse.

There are demonic forces, and there are angelic forces.

There are those who practice Ceremonial Magick for good, while others do it for self serving purposes, which typically involves doing evil.

Thing is, this stuff is real, and when people do bizarre rituals to dabble in the occult, they knowingly or unknowingly open portals to other realms.

This allows those demonic forces to entire our realm, and they very easily take control of those who dabble.

The British Royal Family are said to be dabblers, as well as many of the other elite. More than likely all western politicians of stature have as well.

It would explain a few things.

I never watch Hal Turner.

Me either, Hal Turner was exposed as an FBI informant years ago.

It seems demons were rampant at the time of Christ, probably desperately trying to thwart God's plan.

If you aren't aware of this guy he's been right about the clot shots from day one and very vocal in challenging the authorities. This video just came out.

We today are more informed about international events as they roll out than I could imagine was possible in the very distant past. That being said, is it likely that the conditions today are less conducive to an emergence of demons than during the time of Christ ? I sure get the feeling we're in the midst of something very evil.

Dude should invest heavily in turtle-neck gear.

What's going on with the guy's throat, if anything?

The Tatoos are weird but the man is genuine. He's been in Canada and all over the place fighting against the jabs. Plus, he's forecasted the events that were experienced a little while later on.

I actually hope he's wrong on this one but it would be the first time !

Looks like tats to me.

Well, it hasn't caused you to go blind yet !

Once I saw what was going on with .... JFK, it's impossible for me to think the world is run by sane people with our best interests in mind.

I view a program occasionally that's still carried on youtube hosted by Daniel Lentz, titled "Dark Journalist."

He interviews people with different interests such as authors, Joseph Farrell, and Catherine Austin Fitts. He interviewed attorney Douglas Caddy, lawyer for the Watergate Burglars and CIA agent E. Howard Hunt an admitted JFK assassination participant.

Caddy and Hunt had become friends over the course of their several opportunities to litigate both civil and criminal matters. (Remember SPOTLIGHT MAGAZINE sued Hunt and won after claiming he was involved in the assassination of Kennedy).

Hunt was not going to be around so he invited Caddy to have dinner and sort of say good-bye. After having dinner and as they were parting Caddy had never asked the question "why was Kennedy murdered" so he did so, to which Hunt told him that Kennedy was getting ready to share our most secret information with the Soviets. Caddy said, what was that info, to which Hunt replied, the aliens presence.

I was surprised to hear that myself until I had collected enough information relative to the fact that the UFO thing has been the highest priority secret of the UNITED STATES for a very long time even before I was born 72 years ago. [Don't forget that Trump's uncle John Trump was a highly respected insider with access to all of Tesla's research.]

It has also become known that the CIA had started using occult practices to contact "entities" to receive scientific information that had escalated to the extent of using satanic rituals (actual blood sacrifice) and remote viewing all of which I'm sure we'll never know the actual true extent to which these practices escalated.

The scriptures forbid this type of activity. But when we investigate the things around us and how people like Aleister Crowley are highly respected among the secret society elites, like Albert Pike, author of Morals and Dogma and KKK Southern Commander, Jack Parsons (satanist) of JPL, L.Ron Hubbard of Scientology, Anton Lavey satanist, Werner Von Braun of NASA (a NAZI), and the list goes on and on into such areas as the poor treatment of Nicola Tesla, the lack of investigation and prosecutions of massive cases of satanic ritual abuse, kiddie porn all over defense department computers, the FRANKLIN COVER-UP, EPSTEIN ISLAND honey pot and all of the celebrities, politicians, and scientists that participated there along with Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos of the tech world. All of which speak to Satanism writ larger than we could have ever imagined a few years ago. Then there's the Main Stream Media but you all already know about those scumbags.

The very fact that good people cannot comprehend the depths of evil that others are able to descend into for gain or to retain power has in the past kept us from awareness that the Bible attempts to give us without entering the dark regions of spirituality and lets us also know that its been here forever. It's international in scope as the European elites are very deep into it. Jimmy Savile, (knighted necromancer and pedo), besties with King Charles a direct descendant of Transylvanian, Vlad the Impaler, and every kingdom of Europe saturated with pedophiles and child murderers. Millions of missing children, the promotion of abortion and ill treatment of those protesting it should have awakened us many years ago. CERN telling us they are looking for the God particle is utter bullshit. They do satanic rituals, have a statue of Shiva and a 20 Billion dollar budget, Bohemian Grove, where many satanist world leaders meet annually, the WEF/Klaus Schwaub (whose mother was a Rothschild), .... and every multi-national Corporation on earth worshiping/serving Satan/Lucifer rather than their customers. The Bush cabal, the Clintons, the Obama "family," Soros funded prosecutors, only demon-strates the saturation of evil and the all encompassing ignorance of the American people and people around the world that tolerate this evil or are ignorant of it.

I could keep going here but I'm sure everyone is already sick of my bullshit. I'm sick of my bullshit ! We humans with a genuine love of our Creator and a love of truth attempting to live in peace and raise our families are in a war that is becoming so blatantly obvious that it causes me to think its like water coming to a boil and Lucifer is turning up the heat.

If we have forgotten how to pray we better relearn it. We need to repent of our shortcomings, and get busy praying. One last thing before I shut up.

I can't stop thinking about how so many people think Trump will save them almost to the point of worship in my opinion. The scriptures warn us and go so far as to tell us "Come out of her my people or suffer the wrath of God." It doesn't say vote for the anti--christ in order to solve your temporary problems. We have collectively enlisted in the

CONvenience and security state of Satan, casting aside our TRUST in God. Our TRUST in God is all we have to offer back to our Creator because all else is His. I can't explain how we got drafted into this war but here we are and it is what it is.

Yeee hawww !

Pffffft

Someone once said that history was written by the winners of wars. Who knows what's actually been going on in the centuries and millennia gone by.

There has been a tremendous increase of pure evil since WWII, however, there were always dark forces at work if you look at what's known to have happened throughout history.

Thing is, much of that evil was committed by those professing to be doing the work of God, such as what the Church of England did to those they saw a "heretic". The Roman Catholic Church were no better with their Inquisitions. Medieval torture was used extensively. "Holy Crusades" were based upon the "convert or die" philosophy.

That is one reason I can't believe what they profess, as they have committed horrendous evil, most likely unleashing that evil upon the world forever. I can't see anything deriving from them as "holy".

Evil existed before that though, probably for as long as there have been people on this planet, and probably for all of Eternity.

There has never been as many people on this world (that we know of) as there is now. And with technology we can see what's been going on much clearer than we could have seen 50 years ago.

But back 60 years ago the "deep state" thought it was OK to assassinate the President of the United States, and were actually able to cover up their crime even up to today.

Something was already terribly wrong with our world then, it's just gotten more obvious over the years.

I have read in several places in the past that Kiev was the original Jewish Capital.

I don't think it was a "capital", but there were a large number of Jews there in the 10th century..

History of the Jews in Kyiv

But around that time there were a LOT of religions floating around, Judaism was just one of many.

There has been a tremendous increase of pure evil since WWII ....

Something was already terribly wrong with our world then, it's just gotten more obvious over the years.

No argument from me especially the religious angle. I study the Bible but cannot bring myself to enter a church. The worst of the worst in politics are war mongering murderers and pedophiles and yet they go to church (usually for a photo op).

The current trend in evil and decadence though appears to be more commonly shared among the general population as opposed to the criminal class and others in high places. I'm somewhat secluded living in a small town that I don't leave very often. However when I do venture out into some metro area I'm appalled at the obese, stupid looking, degenerates, and mentally damaged zombies lurking (sorry) there.

In my mind I wonder how do these people manage ? These areas more often than not look somewhat dangerous and run down. I have to think that white people moving out to the suburbs has left a vacuum filled by the dregs of society.

I'm pretty certain that you're right about the authors of history being able to adjust the facts to fit their plans for the future.

This time in history is as wicked and disgustingly filthy as I can recall ever in my lifetime.

man, you're still a dire disappointment... blind as a goose in a blizzard and dumb as a shithouse rat.

Who the fuck asked you ?

I don't think it was a "capital", but there were a large number of Jews there in the 10th century..

History of the Jews in Kyiv.

It was some time ago that I had read something to the effect of Kiev (Kyiv) being a homeland or home town for Khazarian Jews. It may have been the 13th Tribe or something written by another Jew/Israeli Schlomo something or other.

I think I threw that in there because for some reason it crossed my mind that they (Herzl's gang of whiners @ 1st Zionazi Convention) were clamoring for the ability to return to their "Homeland" when they were already there (Europe), and had never drawn a breath in Palestine..

That whole Israeli lie causes me to lose my mind sometimes so I apologize if I lost track of whatever the actual subject matter was and flipped out again on those phony fucking world crushing Kikes.

Aliens Created Humans

Of course that is just plain nuts.

The Bible says it all. Creation or evolution? Which is correct?

But the Muslims do not belive Christ was the Savior, merely another prophet. ;)

had never drawn a breath in Palestine

That is a fact. When Hitler agreed to allow the Jews to emigrate to Palestine, there was a minority Jewish population there already.

The Transfer Agreement provided the Jews could go to Palestine, but they had to leave their personal wealth behind.

Indeed, it has always been about the money since in Ancient Rome they were clipping coins to make the precious metals go further.

It was the Balfour Declaration (1917) which was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland that promised the Jews a National Homeland in Palestine, which at the time was an Ottoman area. ;)

Kiev

Something just popped into my head of a histical aspect of WW II.

The Einstazgruppen were the German rear guard. They were shooting Jews in the back of the head and sumping the bodies into ditches.

There was also a Jewish massacre at Babi Yar. ;)

Aliens Created Humans

Of course that is just plain nuts.

The Bible says it all. Creation or evolution? Which is correct?

Bible. Hands down.

I had to go back to see what you were referring to:

SQ just did one with Greg Hunter (Aliens Created Humans Is the Biggest Lie in the Universe - Steve Quayle

I agree with Steve Quayle. What I was really mulling over was the info about Sitchin? Sitchkin? whatever his name is. I don't see it in the article. It might have been in the trailer. I don't think I have been able to watch a video for days, for some reason, so I can't check right now, but I need to again at some point. That guy Sitchin or whatever, is responsible for turning a couple of Christians I know and love into a couple of back-peddling fools. I'm worried about them. I need to go on the warpath on this guy until these two get back on the right path. First I have to find out what he's all about. So many things on my plate right now.

I'm also having a really hard time posting this. Something going on with my internet.

Aliens Created Humans

Of course that is just plain nuts.

More like God created both.

Of course Jews who lived 3000 years ago wouldn't have known that.

I still find it hilarious that some who are 110% anti-Jew believe every word they wrote thousands of years ago..

every word they wrote thousands of years ago.

Of course you would be referring to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

When I worked for Illinois State Highways, this big shot engineer wrote an Op-Ed for the Chicago Tribune which was titled I Am A Zionist.

He was in the yard once. His car was dirty and I wrote WASH ME on it.

When he saw it he started jumping up and down and screaming.

They mafe the yard toady wash his car. ROTFLMAO

I still find it hilarious that some who are 110% anti-Jew believe every word they wrote thousands of years ago..

It's hard to stay focused on this Hebrews / Israelites vs. "Jews." The Hebrews wrote the Scriptures not "Jews." Actually it's not hilarious at all. It has the world on the brink of WW III, America in the shitter, Klaus Schwab and his WEF ready to pounce. It's serious enough that we need to get it right.

That's a common error created / invented by the (Khazars) "JEWS" around 750 AD long after the Bible was written to confuse the issue and to claim land and sovereignty that "JEWS" never had a legitimate claim to before the fraud known as the BALFOUR / ROTHSCHILD so called Proclamation and US recognition in 1947-48. AskeNAZI Jews are imposters and squatters. The Israelites today are the people that rule over the Nations with the HIGHEST QUALITY OF LIFE as God promised Abraham would be the case. Those countries are the Western Nations not Palestine. These Western Nations are being attacked through infiltration of these so-called Jews that have the entire world in delusion regarding them being "Chosen." They are fucking termites that have eaten out the substance of every country that ever granted them sanctuary and had to exile them in order to survive.

I don't like to get on this rant but without a good understanding of the Bible and history it's easy to be fooled (I was). And like Samuel Clemons AKA Mark Twain said "it's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled. Damn near the entire world has been fooled and I'm sure many know the truth but profit from concealing it. I spent countless hours researching this issue before making this conclusion.

Aliens Created Humans

Of course that is just plain nuts.

More like God created both.

More like none of us were there. None of us know for sure as eyewitnesses but have our own beliefs. That's OK, it's a free country and if we're lucky someday we might REALLY know.

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The history of the Jews in Kyiv stretches from the 10th century CE to the 21st century, and forms part of the history of the Jews in Ukraine.

I can't stop laughing out very fucking loud when you disparage the Bible and quote WIKI!

But, let's not become argumentative. You bring much to this forum and I appreciate ya !

There are of course some instances of falsehoods, usually in political matters and mainstream media narratives.

Those are things that we know are false today, but would someone three or four thousand years from now know they're false?

There would be no "Old Testament" without the Jews, because they're the ones who wrote it.

And it's glaringly obvious it's why it says they're "God's Chosen People", because they are the ones who wrote those words.

And it's glaringly obvious it's why it says they're "God's Chosen People", because they are the ones who wrote those words.

Actually I made my best effort to let you slide until you had to go and be a smartass. Oh, and just to add insult to injury these so-called JEWS are not God's Chosen and they never ever were.

Well I hate to point out your total fucking ignorance of the old Testament where you cannot find the word Jew written or uttered even ONE FUCKING TIME.

Now come down off of your unearned high fucking horse and try to investigate your ignorant claims that I imagine you only repeat because some JEW said it.

Well I hate to point out your total fucking ignorance of the old Testament where you cannot find the word Jew written or uttered even ONE FUCKING TIME.

So then, tell us which religion is portrayed in the Old Testament?

Hindu?

Judaism is a RELIGION. The Old Testament, and the Torah from which it came, are JUDAIC scriptures.

And in case you didn't know, a follower of Judaism is called a JEW.

So then, tell us which religion is portrayed in the Old Testament?

Hindu?

Hebrews/Israelites / Not Jews/Israelis.

Modern Day Jewry are squatters, imposters, and converts to Judaism. They are very good propagandists. They actually arrived in the Palestine area after the captivity in Babylon. They brought their "Traditions of "men" now called the (Babylonian) TALMUD which was an oral tradition put into print sometime around 500 AD.

More like none of us were there.

True. And I was going to let that slide, but since you insist..

There are Sumerian legends which predate the writing of the Torah, which ALSO have a tale about a great flood, as do other prehistoric writings and legends.

So SOME part of the Old Testament are old stories retold by Jewish scribes in a more acceptable form.

However, what we CAN acknowledge is that God (that which is God) created EVERYTHING, whether they be human, animal, or alien beings.

Atoms, molecules, space and time. EVERYTHING.

It can be said that God is perhaps EVERYTHING and EVERYONE who ever existed, and will ever exist.

Hebrews/Israelites / Not Jews/Israelis.

So you're saying that Hebrews did not consider their writings Judaic? They were Hindu?

Hebrews/Israelites

Those are races or ethnicities, not a religion.

The RELIGION is called JUDAISM. Why do you think Christianity is called a Judeo- Christian religion?

TALMUD which was an oral tradition put into print sometime around 500 AD.

Not long after the time the New Testament was accepted as cannon.

The Romans had a lot to do with what you're told to believe.

The RELIGION is called JUDAISM. Why do you think Christianity is called a Judeo- Christian religion?

Judeo-Christian is an OXYMORON. You should do a deep dive and really find out for yourself. I've rejected arguing with people about religious stuff because it's a no win especially when the opposite party is without the research.

Like I said, the Jews have done an astonishing job of propagandizing the world and especially Christians that don't study the Bible and Bible history. It's a saga that takes some learning to understand and most people are unwilling to spend the time and effort to know the truth.

That demonstrates an extreme form of cognitive dissonance.

specially Christians that don't study the Bible and Bible history.

I truly doubt you know anything about the Essenes, and are ignorant of the very real possibility that they are more correct in their beliefs than are modern day "christians"..

Essenes

The Nazarenes of Mount Carmel

Do your own research if you are a seeker of truth..

had to exile them

Didn't AOC's family flee Spain during the Inquisition?

If so, that makes them crypto Jews. ;)

Some folks enjoy debate with the uninformed. I don't. You may have a lot of knowledge about other things but on this topic you barely have surface knowledge. What would be appropriately called "hornbook learning".

Didn't AOC's family flee Spain during the Inquisition?

Her family should have fled her. Ha !

I think you're correct even though I pay very little attention to her.

I pay very little attention to [AOC].

I love her. I contracted a Chinese company to make me targets with her picture on them. A 20' cargo container costs me about a penny each, I sell 'em to gun ranges for a buck a whack, they march 'em out for $2.00-2.50ea.

I made 200k on the first one, the ranges made a like amount.

Doing my part for the 2A.

For the nth time, a Jew is one who follows the Jewish religion.

Jesus was a Jew.

No such religion as Hebrew BTW.

They were what, Hindu?

You must be a leftist, you project your own shortcomings onto others.

For the nth time, a Jew is one who follows the Jewish religion.

Jesus was a Jew.

The Jews follow the Babylonian Talmud contrary to your ignorance. I can't take your brilliance.

Man can you get past your hatred of modern Jews?

Modern Jews follow the Talmud. Historical Jews wrote the Torah.

Man can you get past your hatred of modern Jews?

Correct on count one and incorrect on count two. Historical Israelites wrote the Torah.

I have gone out of my way for years in an attempt to place blame where it is deservedly placed. I don't hate all Jews and have been consistent in that area. Ask Neo-cunt nailed, he/she got angered when I wouldn't paint all Jews with the hate brush.

I'm about the truth and spent many years researching the Bible and history including the Jewish Encyclopedia which is quite honest about their history. You have me all wrong.

Jesus was a Jew.

According to the Romans he was the King of the Jews. ;)

Modern Jews follow the Talmud.

From a historical perspective, in 1917 the British Foreign Secretary, Lord Arthur Balfour, wrote the Balfour Declaration. This document promised the Jews a national homeland in Palestine, which was an Ottoman area with a minority Jewish population.

This document was presented to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.

Much later, Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar. But they wanted to go to Palestine.

This brought about the Transfer Agreement. TheJews could go to Palestine, but they had to leave their personal wealth behind.

It has ALWAYS been about the money.

And let's not forget that Israel was founded on terror when the Irgun blew up the west wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946.

The British were using that hotel s their headquarters. ;)

tremendous increase of pure evil since WW II

At the end of WWI in the Pacific, after we nuked Japan, all the guns in storage on Guam, atacked 4 and 5 pallets high, for an invasion of Japan were put on two ships.

One went to Pyongyang, and the other to Haiphong.

They were sending them the guns to start the next two wars.

The Frwnch were defeated at Dien Bien Phu by American weapons.

M1 Carbines were even found in the VC tunnels.

For more info on this check Col. L. Fletcher Prouty. He was an intelligence agent in the South Pacific. He flew Chinag Kai Shek to the meeting of the Big Four in Tehran in 1943. ;)

every word they wrote

In 1917, the British Foreign Secretary Lord Arthur Balfour wrote the Balfour Declaration. This was presented to the Zionist Organization of Great Britain and Ireland.

This document promised the Jews a National Homwland in Palestine, which was then an Ottoman area that had a minority Jewish population.

Hitler wanted to send the Jews to Madagascar, a lush tropical island off the SE coast of Africa.

But the Jews did not want to hear this. They wanted to go to Palestine.

This lead to the Transfer Agreement. The Jews could go to Palestine but they had ro leave their personal wealth behind.

It has ALWAYS been about the money.

You just might know about this. But there are other posters who might not know. ;)

Historical Israelites wrote the Torah.

But they were Jewish, that is the point I was trying to make. Their nation was Israel, but they didn't call themselves Israelis, they called themselves Israelites at times and Hebrews other times.

No matter what they called themselves, their religion was Judaism.

I take ANYTHING they wrote with a HUGE grain of salt. I can't comprehend why anyone would believe without question anything they ever wrote.

But they were Jewish

Historical Isrelites were indeed Jewish. But the modern dy inhabitants of Israel re Zionits.

This is proven in history when the British Foreign Minister, Sir Arthur Balfour wrote the Balfour Declration and presented it to the Zionist Organization of Great Britin and Ireland.;(

But the modern dy inhabitants of Israel re Zionits.

Yes but they CLAIM to be "God's Chosen People (tm)"..

Historical Israelites wrote the Torah.

But they were Jewish, that is the point I was trying to make. Their nation was Israel, but they didn't call themselves Israelis, they called themselves Israelites at times and Hebrews other times.

No matter what they called themselves, their religion was Judaism.

I take ANYTHING they wrote with a HUGE grain of salt. I can't comprehend why anyone would believe without question anything they ever wrote.

In the distant past I reconciled myself to avoid discussions such as this one. However it is necessary to distinguish the very real and secular difference between Israelites / Hebrews of long ago and the Ashkenazi "Jews" of today. Ashkenazi Jews make up 90% of modern Jewry and didn't convert from to Judaism until around 735-750 AD. This conversion took place in an area that we today call Kiev and was political in nature. The converts to "Judaism" were never "Promised anything, nor were they around when the land was divided between the 12 Tribes. People for the most part have been led to be confused because of the word "Jew" utilized by a line of people never associated with the Israelites, never promised anything in Biblical Texts. I'm pretty sure that Jews like Christians do not know the scriptures but simply rely upon a weekly propaganda campaign distributed by Preachers and Rabbis.

On a separate note, the Israelites wrote the Torah (and Christian Bible) and there are some called Jews that abide in Torah but for the most part the Synagogues today teach and adhere to the BABYLONIAN TALMUD which was an oral tradition that came to Jerusalem after the captivity by the Babylonians. Jesus referred to it as the Traditions of men that makes my Father's law of no effect.

Whether or not anyone should believe it is surely debatable and understandable, many don't. The rub is that these Israelis that are claiming the Promises of the book hate Jesus and have never fulfilled even one of the so-called promises. It's a ruse. One of the Promises to Abraham's seed line was that they'd be a blessing to mankind. The Israeli State has been nothing less than a curse upon humanity and the immense propaganda spread for decades to legitimize what anyone with a degree of discernment should recognize as bullshit serves as a proof.

Looking at it from my perspective today's Israeli Occupation could very well be "The Abomination of Desolation" spoken of by Daniel the prophet.

I've gone on too long already but the truth is out there. It's in history and it's in the scriptures and it takes research to discover it. I was once a "true believer" in the propagandized version until I spent quite awhile researching it for myself only to find "AND ADMIT" I had been wrong. I would be satisfied to never speak on this subject again if it were not for the little children suffering and dying because of the lies we've been told and because humanity itself is losing its humanity.

Yes but they CLAIM to be "God's Chosen People (tm)"..

Yes but the Babylonian Exile and the Talmud changed all of that. ;)

the Israelites wrote the Torah (and Christian Bible) and there are some called Jews that abide in Torah but for the most part the Synagogues today teach and adhere to the BABYLONIAN TALMUD which was an oral tradition that came to Jerusalem after the captivity by the Babylonians. Jesus referred to it as the Traditions of men that makes my Father's law of no effect.

And I bet the Dead Sea Scrolls figure into this all in some way. ;)

And I bet the Dead Sea Scrolls figure into this all in some way. ;)

I avoid placing much value in any recent discovery (I believe it was 1947 when these scrolls were found) because the Rockefeller funded academics were the only people to have access to the Dead Sea Scrolls for an extended period before anyone else could participate in studying them.

I only entered the discussion with former lurker because the subject matter is so relevant to the deterioration and collapse of our own country. It's not well known that modern day residents of "Israel" have ancestors that originated in the area of Kiev (Ukraine) and not so much in the Middle East. The historians will have a field day writing about how Ukraine and Israel were victorious in taking down America or possibly making it possible for China to invade a defenseless USA.

In truth, the word Jews is less accurate than Babylonians. Nimrod is coming !

In truth, the word Jews is less accurate than Babylonians. Nimrod is coming !

And the Talmud was written during the Babylonian exile. ;)