Ukraine is ammunition-starved, and the West simply cannot keep up with its pledges

Source: https://alethonews.com/2023/07/24/ukraine-is-ammunition-starved-and-the-west-simply-cannot-keep-up-with-its-pledges/
Published: Jul 24, 2023
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2023-07-24 15:20:32 by Horse
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While Western discussions have focused on sending sophisticated weapons to Kiev, Hal Brands, a Henry Kissinger Distinguished Professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, argues that what Ukraine needs the most, besides air-defense systems, is artillery ammunition. He describes the current conflict as an artillery-centric one: “if Kiev can’t find enough artillery pieces and ammunition, especially 155mm shells, it will be at a dire firepower deficit along the conflict’s front lines.”

Already on March 29, Earle Mack, former US ambassador to Finland, writing in a piece for The Hill, described the current confrontation as proxy attrition warfare, that is one which seeks military victory by wearing down the enemy. He worried that Ukraine seemed bound to tire out first. Things have not gotten much better for Kiev, so far.

A July 23 New York Times story, by former Marine infantryman Thomas Gibbons-Neff, based on “dozens of visits to the front line” quotes a Ukrainian commander: “we’re trading our people for their people and they have more people and equipment.” According to the story, “Ukraine has made marginal progress in its ability to coordinate directly between its troops closest to Russian forces on the so-called zero line and those assaulting forward.” Moreover, the country’s artillery is in short supply, and “a mixture of munitions sent from different countries” is employed. The thing is that accuracy varies greatly between them and the Ukrainians need to use more ammunition. In addition, according to the same news report, “some of the older shells and rockets sent from abroad are damaging their equipment and injuring soldiers.”


Poster Comment:

Actually worse than that. Russia fires ten shells for every Ukrainian artillery shell.The Ukrainians have to maintain separate supply lines for every different piece of NATO equipment.

Ukraine is running out of able bodied men. They fill up a battalion with injured men and send them in lightly armed ahead of a mechanized unit that is low on ammunition. One man was captured with his unit after their rear command refused to send transport for the wounded.

They are sending 16 year-old boys and men in their 60s to the front. Also epileptics, men with spinal injuries and others who have no business in uniform.

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#1: StraitGate    To: Horse (#0)

Maybe the US Dept. of Education could send some of their ammo to Ukraine? A thousand other well-armed federal agencies -- with adoring help from all local cops and almost all county sheriffs -- can keep the intolerant soccer moms jackbooted down at school board meetings.

StraitGate posted on 2023-07-24 18:38:03   Reply   Private Reply


#2: Horse    To: StraitGate (#1)

Throw in the 87,000 armed IRS agents and you have a deal. I think someone might start a rumor in the Russian language that the Americans are coming with enough doctors and hormones to castrate the Russians, inject them with hormones and enough regular US sailors to teach them to be proper drag queens with the very best of them to enter the next Miss Trans World contest. That should motivate the Russian soldiers.

Horse posted on 2023-07-24 19:04:39   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Esso    To: Horse, StraitGate, Lod, 4um (#2)

Throw in the 87,000 armed IRS agents and you have a deal.

That's what I was gonna say.

Esso posted on 2023-07-24 19:08:07   Reply   Private Reply


#4: StraitGate    To: Horse (#2)

LOTS of federal agents carrying taxpayer-funded guns and ammo:

en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Fed...ies_and_units_of_agencies

StraitGate posted on 2023-08-19 19:58:28   Reply   Private Reply