The Democratic Party’s new presumptive presidential nominee Kamala Harris “joked” and maniacally laughed on national TV about killing President Donald Trump and then VP Mike Pence in 2018.

The clip comes from an appearance on Ellen DeGeneres’ show in 2018 before Harris had announced her own doomed presidential campaign.

“If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, [Vice President] Mike Pence, or [Attorney General] Jeff Sessions, who would it be?” Ellen asked her.

Harris replied, “Does one of us have to come out alive?” before bursting out laughing.