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Title: The Scottish Rite, the KKK and the ADL
Source: Impious Digest
URL Source: http://www.impiousdigest.com/lbj/fox.htm
Published: Jan 19, 1993
Author: John Covici
Post Date: 2006-07-13 05:32:36 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
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Comments: 114

The city councils of Birmingham and Tuskegee, Alabama; Austin, Texas; Newark, New Jersey; Buffalo, New York; and New Orleans, Louisiana, have all called for the removal of the statue of Ku Klux Klan founder Albert Pike from Judiciary Square in Washington, D.C. Meanwhile, the Council of the District of Columbia, considering whether to pass a resolution similar to those passed in the other U.S. cities, has been warned by the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry and the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith not to move to take down the KKK monument. Albert Pike, national KKK chief judiciary officer and Grand Dragon of the Arkansas Klan after the Civil War, is buried in a crypt at the Headquarters Temple of the Scottish Rite, Southern Jurisdiction, at 16th and S Streets, Washington. Pike was Grand Commander of that masonic group when he and his confederate clique organized the KKK.

Why? Why has the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a self-proclaimed "anti-bigotry'' lobby, acted to save the KKK's national monument? For starters, the ADL is officially subordinate to the B'nai B'rith, a pro-slavery masonic secret society formed under Scottish Rite control in the 1840s. The ADL, the Scottish Rite, and the Klan appeared openly together in the early 20th century as elements of the "British party" within American political life. In shameful national public statements and private actions, B'nai B'rith and the ADL denounced and viciously sabotaged all 1930s anti-Hitler protests by Jews.

From its inception, the ADL has fronted for organized crime figures including Meyer Lansky. The Scottish Rite and the ADL, in their telephone calls and visits to Washington, D.C. Council members, say that "there is no evidence that Pike was a member of the KKK"; or, that "there is no credible evidence of Pike's role in the Klan"; or, that "we can find no evidence" of such a role. As a fall-back, the ADL has also said that "there is no real evidence of Pike's role in the Klan; and even if there is such evidence, the issue is not important."' In the recent voluminous reporting on the subject of the Pike statue, news media have often quoted Scottish Rite representative Walter Lee Brown with variations of these defenses of Pike. In an October interview with the author, Brown said that he did not care what any historian has ever written about Pike. In his view, all evidence of Pike's evil acts put forward in the 20th century "is simply repeating slanders that were used against Pike when he was alive." Brown, who is writing an official biography of Pike for the Scottish Rite, contended that no condemnation of leaders of the post-Civil War Ku Klux Klan can be legitimate, because of the lack of documentary evidence against them.

This applies as well to the notorious KKK Grand Wizard, slave-trade millionaire and wartime racial murderer Nathan Bedford Forrest. "General Forrest did not actually admit that he was in the Klan," Brown explained. "So, where is your proof that he or anyone else actually ran the Klan?"

How Pike's Role Was Revealed

In considering the evidence of Albert Pike's KKK career, one must keep in perspective the mode of operation and legal status of the perpetrators in question. The KKK of the 1860s-1870s was a secret, terroristic society whose disguised members carried out thousands of murders, tortures, arson of schools and churches. The United States government sent troops into the southern states to put down Klan terrorism. One should not expect the KKK to have published membership and officers lists, to accommodate prosecution and suppression. Confederate General Albert Pike's KKK career has been widely known among historians, southerners, and federal government officials since about 1905, four years after the Pike memorial statue was dedicated.

It was in 1905 that the Neale Publishing Company, New York and Washington, published Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Growth and Disbandment, written and edited by Walter L. Fleming, incorporating earlier published material by J.C. Lester and D.L. Wilson. Historian Walter Fleming's introduction to this 1905 book explains that he has been given "information in regard to Ku Klux Klan, by many former members of the order, and by their friends and relatives." Dr. Fleming states that "General Albert Pike, who stood high in the Masonic order, was the chief judicial officer of the Klan." On a page of illustrations of important founders of the KKK, Dr. Fleming places General Pike's portrait in the center, makes it larger than the six others on the page, and repeats this information as a caption: "General Albert Pike, chief judicial officer". Dr. Fleming attaches as an appendix to his book, a KKK "prescript" or secret constitution which had then recently been discovered. This document sets forth the regulations of the Klan's "judiciary"' department, over which Albert Pike ruled. This is the internal disciplinary or counterintelligence department. It also corresponds to Pike and the Klan's influence over the regular court system and the legal profession in the post-civil War southern states.

As the boss of all the southern secret societies and simultaneously president of the Tennessee Bar Association, Pike was the grand strategist of Klan "justice." It is to be stressed that Walter Fleming's book was not a slander or hatchet job against Albert Pike. Though it revealed much important data for the first time, it placed the KKK and Pike in the most favorable possible light. The book was a hit among diehard Confederates and Anglo-Saxon "race patriots," and it launched Fleming's career as the dean of southern historians. Fleming became the leading apologist for the KKK, and was the father of the modern historical line that Reconstruction was a corrupt oppression of the South. In September 1903, Fleming had written in the Journal of the Southern History Association: "The very need for such an organization in the disordered conditions of the time caused the Dens [KKK local units] to begin to exercise the duties of a police patrol for regulating the conduct of thieving and impudent negroes and similar "loyal' whites...." Dr. Fleming's biases have not hurt his reputation with established authorities. The National Cyclopedia of American Biography calls his 1905 Ku Klux Klan history "an authoritative account of that organization." The Dictionary of American Biography states bluntly: "Fleming covered the Civil War and Reconstruction in the South more fully than any other man. His works are characterized by ... scholarly objective. A Southerner, Fleming wrote of the sectional conflict with Southern sympathies yet he was more objective than most Southerners of his generation. The historiography of the Civil War and Reconstruction owes much to his indefatigable research, his breadth of scholarship, and power of interpretation." Basing his career on his defense of Pike's KKK, Fleming became dean of arts and sciences at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee.

Pike's Tennessee Klan Command

It was in Nashville that Albert Pike and other Confederate generals met in 1867 to form a southern states-wide terrorist KKK, expanding the little project they had started two years before in Pulaski, Tenn. The organization he formed in Nashville designated Pike its chief judiciary officer, and its Grand Dragon for Arkansas. As owner-publisher of the Memphis, Tennessee, Daily Appeal, Albert Pike wrote in an editorial on April 16, 1868: "With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the administration of justice becomes a blasphemous mockery. A Loyal League of negroes can cause any white man to be arrested, and can prove any charges it chooses to have made against him. ...The disenfranchised people of the South ... can find no protection for property, liberty or life, except in secret association.... We would unite every white man in the South, who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an organization complete, active, vigorous, in which a few should execute the concentrated will of all, and whose very existence should be concealed from all but its members." (A copy of that issue of Pike's paper may be viewed at the Library of Congress, as may the books mentioned in this article.) But it was as the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, and the recognized boss of the southern white masonic order, that Pike exercised the great clandestine power that welded the KKK together. Dr. Walter Fleming designates Confederate Major James R. Crowe as the pre-eminent source for his 1905 KKK History, and describes Crowe as one of the original KKK founders in Pulaski. Fleming says that Major Crowe "held high rank in the Masonic order." In his honor roll of "well-known members of the Klan," Dr. Fleming places "General John C. Brown, of Pulaski, Tennessee" and "Colonel Joseph Fussell, of Columbia, Tennessee."

General Brown and Colonel Fussell, like Major Crowe, are identifiable as soldiers of Albert Pike's masonic order. General Brown had been a master mason in the Pulaski lodge for 15 years when the KKK was formed there, and became grand master of Tennessee Masons and governor of Tennessee during the Klan's era of power. Colonel Fussell was commandant of Tennessee's masonic Knights Templar during the Klan rule. The preceding masonic information is taken from Tennessee Templars: A Register of Names with Biographical Sketches of the Knights Templar of Tennessee by James D. Richardson. This James D. Richardson was himself the Commandant of Knights Templar and Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee, and was speaker of the Tennessee House of Representatives during the era of the Klan power. This same James D. Richardson was Albert Pike's successor as commander of the southern Scottish Rite masons. It was this same Richardson who ordered the Pike statue to be erected in Washington, D.C. It was Richardson who, as a U.S. congressman from Tennessee, introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives the infamous 1898 resolution: It called for the federal government to provide federal land to Richardson's masonic organization, on which to put up their statue honoring the master strategist of KKK terror.

The KKK on Parade

Susan Lawrence Davis's 1924 Authentic History, Ku Klux Klan, 1865-1877, repeats the pattern Fleming created in 1905, revealing Pike's KKK role but treating him and the Klan sympathetically. The Davis book was written to celebrate the new, 20th-century KKK, which was just then staging full-dress mass marches in Washington and northern cities such as Detroit. In her chapter on General Pike's leadership of the Klan, Miss Davis applauds Pike's clever stewardship of the KKK secret organization. She reproduces in her KKK history an oil portrait of Albert Pike given to her for the KKK book by Pike's son. The same is true of other book-length histories of the Klan and numerous published biographies of Albert Pike: Pike's role as Klan leader or KKK boss of Arkansas is discussed, but treated as if KKK terrorist murder of African-Americans was "regrettable" but "only natural" and "understandable." In his book, The Tragic Era, Claude Bowers describes the KKK as patriotic southerners defending their way of life from out-of-control blacks and northerners. Bowers, who served many years as the U.S. ambassador to Spain and to Chile, described Albert Pike as one of the handful of distinguished, respectable founders of the KKK and the Klan's leader in Arkansas.

Bowers wrote that much of the KKK's alleged violence was actually perpetrated by Negroes disguised in Klan robes to wreak vengeance on other Negroes! Rather than quake in fear when the white southern masons or the ADL puts the muscle on, a citizen or his political representative ought to put this question to General Pike's defenders: "Do you say that Professor Fleming, Miss Davis, Mr. Bowers, and all the other pro-Confederate historians were liars when they wrote of Pike's marvelous deeds as KKK founder and leader?" They want to have it both ways: first to issue propaganda justifying Klan terrorism as the work of "respectable'' men like Pike; later, when their hero is under attack, to claim that their own propaganda slanders their man!

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

"Why has the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a self-proclaimed "anti-bigotry'' lobby, acted to save the KKK's national monument?

Good question.

Is this more of the ADL's "Good works"?

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-13   5:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lady X, noone 222, Yertle Turtle, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Mind_Virus, Brian S, Jethro Tull, Tauzero, Red Jones, mugwort, Peetie Wheatstraw, HOUNDDAWG, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, tom007, aristeides, Eoghan, Diana, SKYDRIFTER (#0)

Pike and B'nai B'rith were partnered in a terrorist operation in the South. At least one of the banking connections was August Belmont.

White and Jewish supremacists backed by international money to destroy a country...where do we know this blueprint from?

BTW, note the Simon Wolf connection here also. He and Pike both lived in DC after the Civil War.


America's `Young America' movement: slaveholders and the B'nai B'rith

.....Before the war, Isaac Wise had two B'nai B'rith local leaders in Cleveland: Simon Wolf and Benjamin F. Peixotto. Wolf and Peixotto also worked as political agents for Democratic Party boss August Belmont, the U.S. representative of the Rothschild banks--chief moneybags of the British crown, and British puppets. Banker Belmont paid for the Knights of the Golden Circle and Young America projects, which he helped plan while he was U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands.

...Memphis B'nai B'rith leader Abraham Frankland was an intimate friend of Albert Pike. Frankland had been in the Pike-Benjamin spy apparatus, and wrote a blistering attack on the U.S. attempt to reconstruct the South under equal rights. Frankland now stayed on to aid Pike in his postwar task.

A notebook of Frankland's {Kabbalistic Researches} is kept in the American Jewish Archives, Cincinnati. It is a compendium of espionage ciphers, black magic symbols, masonic ritual, and pagan religion. In his preface, Frankland acknowledges aid to his religious research by Albert Gallatin Mackey, grand secretary of the Scottish Rite, "and the Book {Lohar on the Sephiroth,} kindly loaned to me by Gen'l Albert Pike."

KKK boss Pike was simultaneously working on his own satanic masterpiece, {Morals and Dogma,} published in 1871.

On page 38 of {Kabbalistic Researches,} Frankland lists assorted gods passed down by tradition from ancient times, including "Four of the thirteen great Gods of Assyria," plus the god "Bel." Mackey writes that Frankland's god Bel is a form of Baal, and was worshipped by the Babylonians as their chief deity. This is, of course, the false god which the Old Testament Jewish prophets fought to expunge from Israel. Mackey says that since 1871 the Royal Arch Masonic system has combined Bel with "Jah" for Jehova and "On" for the Egyptian sun god, into "JahBelOn," as an "explanation" of God. The Hebrew menorah blasphemously used in the Royal Arch Masonic ritual is displayed in the Alexandria, Virginia masonic temple.

Other pages of Frankland's notebook contain "Cypher" and "Private Cypher," "Philosophical and Hermetic Alphabet," "Cypher of the Rose Cross," and "Ten Cabalistic Spheres."

In his {Morals and Dogma}, KKK boss Albert Pike celebrates the collaboration between these two Memphis masonic chiefs, Pike and Frankland, at the height of the bloodiest assassination wave in U.S. history. Pike says,

"One is filled with admiration, on penetrating into the Sanctuary of the Kabalah, at seeing a doctrine so logical, so simple, and at the same time so absolute ... a philosophy summed up by counting on one's fingers.... Ten ciphers and twenty-two letters, a triangle, a square, and a circle--these are all the elements of the Kabalah."

So, upon the triumph of their KKK, Albert Pike appointed Abraham Frankland the head of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry for the state of Tennessee, and an emeritus member of the Supreme Council. Simultaneously, Isaac Wise appointed Abraham Frankland the president of the B'nai B'rith district for Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas.

At the beginning of this century, Isaac Wise's grandson Adolph Ochs, the owner of the {New York Times,} wrote a series of editorials attacking black voting rights in those southern states. This vicious editorial campaign helped swing the North behind the new anti-black Jim Crow laws which were then being written, which finally reversed rights gained by Union blood during the civil war. The Ochs-Sulzberger family, a great power in the B'nai B'rith, has remained in control of the {New York Times} ever since.


"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-13   5:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bluegrass (#1)

Interesting article, thanks for the ping.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-13   11:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

No prob.

Why do you continue to back the ADL?

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-13   14:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#4)

"Why do you continue to back the ADL?"

I could ask you much the same thing in relation to many strange view you hold, chum. Besides, backing and liking for good works which the ADL has many such things to it's credit are two different things.

And as far as this early 1990s article goes, I would need to know more about it to pas judgment on it. I need to know if they oppose this based on the same standards the ACLU used to back the KKK's right to march in Michigan which I support despite deep loathing for the KKK as even they have free speech rights under the auspices of the U.S. Constitution.

Incidentally here is a website I do not agree with you may not have seen but I know you would like:

http://iamthewitness.com/

I disagree with you, but I support your right to voice what views you have as per your Constitutional guarantees. And if anyone tried to take them away, I would be right there fighting them for their unconstitutional actions.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-13   15:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

I could ask you much the same thing in relation to many strange view you hold, chum.

You won't ever find me backing violence or violent people. The ADL backs Pike because both Pike and the ADL are part of the Free Mason world and share agendas. Pike was also a Kabbalist. B'nai B'rith is a masonic organization.

backing and liking for good works which the ADL has many such things to it's credit are two different things.

I've asked you a few time to list just three of these "good works". So please do.

if anyone tried to take them away, I would be right there fighting them for their unconstitutional actions.

Are you opposed to what B'nai B'rith and Homeland Security have done to Ernst Zundel and Germar Rudolf?

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-13   15:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

In addendum, the ADL supports the current terrorism being waged on innocents in Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Waiting on those "Good works"...

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-13   16:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lady X, noone 222, Yertle Turtle, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Mind_Virus, Brian S, Jethro Tull, Tauzero, Red Jones, mugwort, Peetie Wheatstraw, HOUNDDAWG, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, tom007, aristeides, Eoghan, Diana, SKYDRIFTER (#2)

Bullshit aside, there's no documentation I can find to link Pike to the KKK.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-13   23:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass, all (#6)

The ADL has no connection to Freemasonry, other than coincidence of membership. The ADL got me knocked off Hackworth's online Magazine - and I'm a Mason. Take a clue!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-13   23:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#8)

I remember when I was in high school in Georgia our history textbook had a paragraph on albert pike with a picture. and it said his main achievement was founding of the KKK. It said he founded it in 1868 in Tennessee, then went all over the south speaking at churches to recruit members. I only remember because I thought it was curious that he was listed in the book, as if founding of the KKK is worthy of praise.

Albert pike is a curious fellow. born in the north. but served as a general for the south in the war. and then was put on trial for treason and found guilty. I thought all the southern soldiers were forgiven by Lincoln. but this guy pike wasn't forgiven. and then someone over-ruled the court and he did not have to serve a sentence.

and there is a statue of him apparently in washington dc. why would this fellow like this have a statue of himself in washington? no other southern generals have statues in washington.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-07-14   0:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SKYDRIFTER (#9)

Where were you made a Mason?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-07-14   0:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SKYDRIFTER (#8)

there's no documentation I can find to link Pike to the KKK.


"With negroes for witnesses and jurors, the administration of justice becomes a blasphemous mockery. A Loyal League of negroes can cause any white man to be arrested, and can prove any charges it chooses to have made against him. ...The disenfranchised people of the South ... can find no protection for property, liberty or life, except in secret association.... We would unite every white man in the South, who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one great Order of Southern Brotherhood, with an organization complete, active, vigorous, in which a few should execute the concentrated will of all, and whose very existence should be concealed from all but its members."

Albert Pike, editor Memphis Daily Appeal April 16, 1868


"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-14   2:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#11)

Where were you made a Mason?

"In a Lodge of the Holy Saints John......"

{:-))


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-14   12:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones (#10)

I've studied Pike for years; I can't document any of the claims as to his Klan connections. That would be radically out of character for a man who once lived in the wilderness with Indians. Do you have anything to cite?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-14   12:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SKYDRIFTER (#13)

hehehe

good afternoon brother. :)

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-07-14   12:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SKYDRIFTER (#14)

I think you're right, I've never seen a connection between the two.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-07-14   12:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Critter (#15)

good afternoon brother. :)

Good afternoon to you also; it's still morning here. I'm busy learning to subdue my passions - it's mission impossible. Too much "Truth" to get out - as soon as humanly possible.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-14   12:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#16)

I think you're right, I've never seen a connection between the two.

I keep an open mind on such subjects.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-07-14   12:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SKYDRIFTER, Red Jones (#14)

I believe that Pike and Forrest both backed, if not organized, the Klan at first and then backed off when it became a terroristic bloodbath. Pike sold his Memphis paper and moved to DC in 1869 or so.

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-14   14:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SKYDRIFTER (#14)

Do you have anything to cite?

no, I don't. but when I do google search for 'albert pike' and 'ku klux klan' there seems to be some association listed in some sources between him and klan. I merely found some saying he was a prominent founding member. not that he was THE founder.

but I remember what the high school history book said because it was bizarre. they had his picture very large and I thought it weird they treated him like a celebrity. a celebrity for founding the KKK. and it said he was the founder and they never talked about anything else he did in his life. the only reason I remember is because it was bizarre. he was a very large man with long hair. and they made it sound like a great achievement. And there are internet sites that insist a statue of him is in Washington DC. now if that's true, isn't that weird. A confederate general honored in DC? not even Robert E Lee has that.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-07-14   15:30:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Red Jones (#20)

And there are internet sites that insist a statue of him is in Washington DC. now if that's true, isn't that weird.

Not only that, Pike's buried within the walls of the DC Scottish Rite Lodge.

A good site to check out is Freemasonry Watch.

http://freemasonrywatch.org/albertpikeandkkk.html

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-07-14   16:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluegrass (#0)

Some articles I had lying around. Haven't read them in awhile.

"Albert Pike and Satanism, From the Civil War to C. Fred Kleinknecht by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.

{During the 1992 presidential campaign, Lyndon H. LaRouche and his vice presidential running mate, the Reverend James Bevel, launched a mobilization to remove the statue of General Albert Pike from its place of honor in Washington, D.C.'s Judiciary Square. On February 1, the campaign drew an angry attack from freemasonic leader C. Fred Kleinknecht, who attempted to defend both Pike and the Ku Klux Klan from LaRouche and Bevel's attack. On April 19, Reverend Bevel and historian Anton Chaitkin are scheduled to go to trial on charges of ``statue-climbing,'' for a non-violent demonstration they led at the Pike statue. They face possible six-month prison terms for this ``crime.''

On March 21, Mr. LaRouche addressed a conference of the Schiller Institute and the International Caucus of Labor Committees in Northern Virginia, via audiotape, explaining the issues of this fight. The following is the text of his speech.}

Recently, there was a letter and an accompanying document attacking me issued by the Supreme Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, one C. Fred Kleinknecht. The issue which the document addresses explicitly, is my proposal to remove from its position on U.S. government property in Washington, D.C., the ugly statue of a traitor, a war criminal, a racist, and a satanic degenerate, General Albert Pike, who was one of the leading predecessors of Mr. Kleinknecht as Sovereign Supreme Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.

Moreover, Mr. Pike--General Pike, as he is sometimes called--is the author of a book called {Morals and Dogma,} which is considered by many members of the Scottish Rite in the United States a virtual bible, or at least the anti-bible, of that section of Freemasonry; and that book, {Morals and Dogma,} is a book consistent with the satanic religious beliefs explicitly adopted and advocated by General Pike. General Pike, of course, was the founder of the Ku Klux Klan; that is not disputable on the basis of the evidence in hand, though Mr. Kleinknecht proposes to dispute it.

What I wish to do here, is to identify the nature of the core or characteristic issue at stake between me and the fellow who has engaged me publicly for this debate, Sovereign Supreme Commander C. Fred Kleinknecht......."

http://www .etext.org/Politics/LaRouche/iclc.0320.larouche.pike

Why Albert Pike's Statue Must Fall The Scottish Rite's KKK Project by Anton Chaitkin

http://www.etext.org/ Politics/LaRouche/pikefall.txt

Incidentally, I was on some site in the last couple of days [don't remember where], that said the Scottish Rite Flag is the same as the UN. When I tried to link [I believe it was to the Scottish Rite website], my computer froze, so I didn't get a chance to check it out.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-01   11:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluegrass (#0)

Oh! some more dots:

ADL: Stooge of the Freemasons

First, they put the ADL out there in front. The Freemasons said, and they said explicitly, that they were {not} going to come out and take me on publicly, but rather they were going to use their stooge, the Anti-Defamation League--which has always been a stooge of this treasonous section of the Scottish Rite in America--to ``deal'' with this issue.

Well, the ADL was in a pickle. Not only is Pike the founder, who represents the spiritual essence of the Ku Klux Klan, both in its first and second incarnation, but the ADL itself, through the B'nai B'rith, was a co-founder of the original Ku Klux Klan, and the ADL {in its own right} was a participant in the second coming of the Ku Klux Klan in 1915. There was a link between the two in the person of Simon Wolf, who was a key intelligence operative for the B'nai B'rith, working with the assassins of Abraham Lincoln back during the 1860s, and it was the very same Simon Wolf who lived until the 1920s, who was instrumental in bringing about the founding or the second coming of the Ku Klux Klan, with the sponsorship of Woodrow Wilson, in 1915.

So the ADL currently, which pretends to be anti-racist--although it is racist and has a racist philosophy--has been campaigning around the country using the disgust against the Ku Klux Klan as a basis for presenting itself, the ADL, as the major defender of American virtue against the Ku Klux Klan.

It was very foolish of the Scottish Rite to propose that this Anti-Defamation League, this ADL, which purportedly is attacking the Klan in every legislature in the country, should come out in Washington, D.C., and around the country {in defense of the founder of the Klan,} that racist, traitorous, satanic, degenerate, Gen. Albert Pike. Or at least Pike's statue.

So the ADL found itself in difficulty; and the ADL could not therefore politically carry out the job which the Scottish Rite headquarters had assigned to it. Thus, because of resolutions around the country, in city councils and so forth, demanding the pulling down of this statue, the Scottish Rite decided that it had to come out in its own name.

A Weak Flank

One of the associated reasons for the sensitivity of the Scottish Rite at this time was the fact that last year, the Southern Baptist Convention entertained a motion to ban membership in the non-Christian, satanic Scottish Rite by members of the Baptist congregations. The banning did not occur; however, a resolution was successfully passed, which proposed an investigation of the matter, a series of hearings, so to speak, which were made pursuant to reconsidering a motion to ban the Scottish Rite.

So the Scottish Rite is very sensitive, and since it has about an estimated {million} of the members of the Southern Jursidiction of the Scottish Rite in the Baptist Convention, this is a very grave threat to the powers of the Scottish Rite, the backers of the drug pusher and scoundrel Oliver North, of Iran-Contra notoriety.

So my attack on the Scottish Rite's Pike at this time, opened up a weak flank in the entirety of the Confederate tradition which this treasonous cabal which it represents....."

http://www .etext.org/Politics/LaRouche/iclc.0320.larouche.pike

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"#14. To: Sam Houston (#6)

I realized the SBC was indistinguishable from the neocon wing of the GOP. The men of the church almost literally began reading me the Riot Act for not bowing down and worshipping the Chimp of God.

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There's a reason for that. The Southern Baptist Church is heavily infiltrated with Judeo-Freemasonry [ http://tracingboard.com/noachites.htm ].

"The Christian Right, The Pope, the Knights of Malta and the CNP

To understand the puzzle, we are quoting from an Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences," etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty- Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:

"This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land...."

"....CHEY: Umhum. That's what "unification" is all about. Unify everything under a big world religion. He financed the World Parliament of Religions that included the Covenant of Isis and all of these Theosophical Society groups and Christian Groups. Some of the Baptist churches participated in that. So, it's a very, very dangerous thing.

KELLEIGH: I'm not surprised with the Baptist churches because of there are so many Freemasons within the Baptist church and the core of Sun Myung Moon and freemasonry is very similar.

CHEY: That's true, although freemasonry is broader than just being confined to the Baptist church. But, I know that the Southern Baptist Convention identified over half a million freemasons and there was a big issue within their church on whether they should allow freemasonry, members of freemasonry to be church members. They do have this "great architect of the universe" mentality and recognize plurality of religions that spans from Christianity through all the eastern religions and Buddhism and Hindus and Shintos and many, many different religious organizations that, Biblically, Christians are told not to fellowship with. It's a matter of being unequally yoked with unbelievers...."

The Christian Right, The Pope, the Knights of Malta and the CNP at http://cephasministry.com

Freemasonry and the Church: A Christian Worker's Perspective

http://www.saintsalive.com/freemasonry/fm-church.htm

A Pastor and Freemasonry: What's a Pastor to do?

http://www.biblebelievers.or g.au/masindx.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2006-07-30 "

The Christian Axis of Evil

http://freedom4um.com/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=31118

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-01   11:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Christine, Diana, All (#22)

Moreover, Mr. Pike--General Pike, as he is sometimes called--is the author of a book called {Morals and Dogma,} which is considered by many members of the Scottish Rite in the United States a virtual bible, or at least the anti-bible, of that section of Freemasonry; and that book, {Morals and Dogma,} is a book consistent with the satanic religious beliefs explicitly adopted and advocated by General Pike. General Pike, of course, was the founder of the Ku Klux Klan; that is not disputable on the basis of the evidence in hand, though Mr. Kleinknecht proposes to dispute it.

What I wish to do here, is to identify the nature of the core or characteristic issue at stake between me and the fellow who has engaged me publicly for this debate, Sovereign Supreme Commander C. Fred Kleinknecht......."

If you're not familiar, these "Pike" issues have been quite adequately proven to be pure bullshit.

"Morals and Dogma" is practically an artifact of the Scottish Rite - in's indespensible to the Rite, but few own or read it. Pike was a scholar of such extremes that few can understand what he wrote. Essentially, he identifies morality as the core of all great civilizations and 'esoteric' schools of thought. (Don't ask me why that position took 900 pages to express.)

Scottish Rite "flag?" I've never heard of one. Did I miss something?

Yes, I'm a Mason and a member of the Scottish Rite.

Ex-con Larouche speaks to integrity??? Right!

The Masons have been run out of DC politics - too much morality in their ranks.

If you're going to speak to such things, do some decent homework.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Christine, Diana, All (#23)

One of the associated reasons for the sensitivity of the Scottish Rite at this time was the fact that last year, the Southern Baptist Convention entertained a motion to ban membership in the non-Christian, satanic Scottish Rite by members of the Baptist congregations. The banning did not occur; however, a resolution was successfully passed, which proposed an investigation of the matter, a series of hearings, so to speak, which were made pursuant to reconsidering a motion to ban the Scottish Rite.

So the Scottish Rite is very sensitive,.....

The person charged with the investigation reported that there was no viable conflict. They fired him; he's now a member of the Order, doing lectures on the subject.

The Scottish Rite has kept their ducks in a row since their formation in 1801 & laughs at the accusations, such as these.

The "saintsalive" guy is a local (Seattle) preacher mouthpiece who can't practice the Christianity he purports to teach. His father is a well-respected Mason who is forced to apologize for his son, gone astray.

Do your homework.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   11:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SKYDRIFTER (#24)

The Masons have been run out of DC politics - too much morality in their ranks.

Also the Jesuits and the Catholic church have been caught up in a web of Illuminati conspiracy according to some.

I'm thinking that this is disinfo, along with the Masons. Maybe there was infiltration at some point in time, back when Masons had some power, but I don't see the point now.

Since all Protestant denominations sprang from the Catholic Church, indirectly or directly, and the basic doctrine is Christian, I can only assume the attacks on it are just that, attacks on Christianity as a whole. The Vatican has had its share of intrigue over the centuries, nothing new.

The conspiracy may as well include the Baptists. I think this is all a smokescreen and a way to get people suspecting and fearing each other.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-01   12:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SKYDRIFTER (#24)

I'm a Mason and a member of the Scottish Rite.

You'll excuse me if I take what you say with a grain of salt, much as someone saying, "I'm a Jew and a member of the ADL" to someone poo-pooing speculation about that organization's history.

Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-01   14:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SKYDRIFTER (#24)

Scottish Rite "flag?"

The Double Headed Eagle of Lagash was used as the SR flag for years at Pike's home in DC and on his statue.

Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-01   14:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: bluegrass, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, Ferret Mike (#27)

You'll excuse me if I take what you say with a grain of salt, much as someone saying, "I'm a Jew and a member of the ADL" to someone poo-pooing speculation about that organization's history.

If you doubt my bone fides, look me up - Past Master of Daylight Lodge in Seattle and Past Master of Renaissance Lodge in Redmond, Washington. Add Past Venerable Master of the Lodge of Perfection at the Seattle Valley of the Scottish Rite, etc.

I'm also the source of the Masonic digital E-Library, consisting of around 85 titles and 150 volumes.

Trust me, I do my homework - "...point-click"


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   14:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: bluegrass (#28)

The Double Headed Eagle of Lagash was used as the SR flag for years at Pike's home in DC and on his statue.

News to me; thanks. I doubt it was the "Double Headed Eagle of Lagash," per se. It was probably the double-headed Eagle, wearing a crown - the symbol of the 33rd Degree. It should have been gripping a sword, with the 33rd Degree motto on a banner, draped from the Sword.

I'm not familiar with a "Scottish Rite Flag," in any official context. There may be, but I'm not familiar with it. The "Craft" often uses banners, but I can't remember any "Masonic flag."


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   15:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bluegrass, SKYDRIFTER (#28)

The Double Headed Eagle of Lagash was used as the SR flag for years at Pike's home in DC and on his statue.

William Cooper's research...

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/6583/coverup016.html

You may verify the goal of the Illuminati by visiting the home page of Freemasonry's Grand Lodge of Scotland (if that link does not work click here). You will notice the flag of the Grand Lodge of Scotland and the "Universal" flag of Freemasonry is displayed. The "Universal" flag of Freemasonry is the United Nations Flag. When they discover that we have linked to their page and are using it as documentation they will delete their "Universal" flag of Freemasonry. We have captured their page to our website and will be happy to send an certification and affidavit that the page on our website is the actual page captured from the home page of the Scottish Grand Lodge of Freemasonry on May 9, 1998. If you visit their page and witness their admission please send an witnessed and signed affidavit as to exactly what you saw to: Harvest Trust, P.O. Box 2470, Pinetop, Arizona 85935.

The Wayback Machine, earliest Jan 1999 archive, shows The Lodge orignal homepage, with the "Universal" gif removed.

http://web.archive.org/web/19990125095713/http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-08-01   15:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Eoghan, Christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Arator, Brian S, Bub, mugwort, bluegrass, Bill D Berger, FormerLurker, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, Flintlock, Neil McIver, tom007, aristeides, Burkeman1, Diana, Ferret Mike (#31)

The "Universal" flag of Freemasonry is the United Nations Flag.

Cooper?

The guy who was so paranoid, that they killed him to please him?

That "Cooper?"

(Never did figure out what he did to get himself finished off.)

He's no one's source of authentic information, versus being a wacked-out UFO freak and profiteering paranoid.

The UN flag is a "Masonic" flag??? Give me a freakin' break.

If the Masons had any political power, I would still be flying airliners.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   15:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SKYDRIFTER (#29)

If you doubt my bone fides

My friend, I don't doubt your bona fides. You're an honest and truthful man that is, like all of us here, looking for the truth beyond the lies we've been taught from childhood.

When looking at the histories of the various groups in America that have a shroud over them (and the Scottish Rite is one of many), I prefer to look at various sources. In my experience, going to the groups and its members isn't a good way to get an objective perspective.

My apologies if my earlier post seemed terse and dismissive. I was in a hurry.

Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-01   15:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: SKYDRIFTER (#32)

Cooper opened up MANY eyes to what is happening now. In the end, he's been proven correct.

Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-01   15:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SKYDRIFTER (#32)

If the Masons had any political power, I would still be flying airliners.

Not if you are over 60.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-01   15:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SKYDRIFTER (#32)

Cooper?

The guy who was so paranoid, that they killed him to please him?

That "Cooper?"

Damn Sky, that is one helluva dodge...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-08-01   15:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluegrass (#33)

I'm the one who "...trusted my country" when I went to Viet Nam. I haven't trusted very much since then - not even the "Craft." I keep a watchful eye out for any shennanigans - and occasionally they do pop up. BUT, I've never been able to glean any hint of nefarious connections or deeds - even in the Scottish Rite.

No offense taken, by the way.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   15:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#35)

Not if you are over 60.

I'm 57.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-01   15:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: SKYDRIFTER (#38)

I'm 57.

Care to say why then you are not flying?

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-01   15:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SKYDRIFTER (#37)

I've never been able to glean any hint of nefarious connections or deeds -

Pike's use of a black candle in a public ceremony of a Scottish Rite baptism of six kids in 1865 is the beginning of the historical thread for me.

Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-01   15:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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