[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Warning America About Palantir: Richie From Boston

I'm not done asking questions about the killing of Charlie Kirk.

6 reasons the stock market bubble is worse than anyone expected.

Elon Musk: Charlie Kirk was killed because his words made a difference.

Try It For 5 Days! - The Most EFFICIENT Way To LOSE FAT

Number Of US Student Visas Issued To Asians Tumbles

Range than U.S HIMARS, Russia Unveils New Variant of 300mm Rocket Launcher on KamAZ-63501 Chassis

Keir Starmer’s Hidden Past: The Cases Nobody Talks About

BRICS Bombshell! Putin & China just DESTROYED the U.S. Dollar with this gold move

Clashes, arrests as tens of thousands protest flood-control corruption in Philippines

The death of Yu Menglong: Political scandal in China (Homo Rape & murder of Actor)

The Pacific Plate Is CRACKING: A Massive Geological Disaster Is Unfolding!

Waste Of The Day: Veterans' Hospital Equipment Is Missing

The Earth Has Been Shaken By 466,742 Earthquakes So Far In 2025

LadyX

Half of the US secret service and every gov't three letter agency wants Trump dead. Tomorrow should be a good show

1963 Chrysler Turbine

3I/ATLAS is Beginning to Reveal What it Truly Is

Deep Intel on the Damning New F-35 Report

CONFIRMED “A 757 did NOT hit the Pentagon on 9/11” says Military witnesses on the scene

NEW: Armed man detained at site of Kirk memorial: Report

$200 Silver Is "VERY ATTAINABLE In Coming Rush" Here's Why - Mike Maloney

Trump’s Project 2025 and Big Tech could put 30% of jobs at risk by 2030

Brigitte Macron is going all the way to a U.S. court to prove she’s actually a woman

China's 'Rocket Artillery 360 Mile Range 990 Pound Warhead

FED's $3.5 Billion Gold Margin Call

France Riots: Battle On Streets Of Paris Intensifies After Macron’s New Move Sparks Renewed Violence

Saudi Arabia Pakistan Defence pact agreement explained | Geopolitical Analysis

Fooling Us Badly With Psyops

The Nobel Prize That Proved Einstein Wrong


Israel/Zionism
See other Israel/Zionism Articles

Title: Israeli Reserve Combat Soldiers Refuse To Take Part In "Missions Of Occupation And Aggression"
Source: Al-Manar
URL Source: http://www.manartv.com/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=230&language=en
Published: Jul 25, 2006
Author: Al-Manar
Post Date: 2006-07-25 22:24:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 538
Comments: 30

25/07/2006

Some 550 Israeli reserve combat soldiers have refused to take part in what they described as Israel's "missions of occupation and aggression."

On an internet site, the soldiers said:"

We, reserve combat officers and soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, who were raised upon the principles of Zionism, sacrifice and giving to the people of Israel and to the State of Israel, who have always served in the front lines, and who were the first to carry out any mission.

We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, and were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people.

We, whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides.

We, who sensed how the commands issued to us in the Territories, destroy all the values we had absorbed while growing up in this country.

We, who know that the Territories are not Israel, and that all settlements are bound to be evacuated in the end.

We hereby declare that we shall not continue to fight this War of the Settlements.

We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.

We hereby declare that we shall continue serving in the Israel Defense Forces in any mission that serves Israel’s defense. The missions of occupation and oppression do not serve this purpose – and we shall take no part in them."

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Is the source URL in the header of your post correct? Firefox claims it can't find the server. I'd like to have a look at it, if possible.

Enderby  posted on  2006-07-25   22:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Enderby (#1)

Is the source URL in the header of your post correct?

Yep, works in EI...

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-25   22:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Some 550 Israeli reserve combat soldiers have refused to take part in what they described as Israel's "missions of occupation and aggression."

There are pics on the net of Israeli protests in Tel Aviv but no one has posted them.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-07-25   22:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

There are pics on the net of Israeli protests in Tel Aviv but no one has posted them.

Nor have they been reported on by the MSM that I have seen...

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-25   22:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#4)

Nor have they been reported on by the MSM that I have seen.

Drudge I believe had them yesterday. I saw them brfiefly in video on some MSM but ran only once.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-07-25   22:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#2)

Yep, works in EI...

Well, rats ... I just tried it in good old Internet Exploder, with the same result. Are you sure you're clicking on the URL in the header of your original post?

Thanks for the reply, anyway ... maybe the Total Information Awareness boys just don't want me seeing that material. Maybe I don't have "need to know," hee hee.

Enderby  posted on  2006-07-25   22:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Enderby (#6)

Yes, I'm clicking on the link in the header but

Try this one

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-25   22:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S (#7)

Oh, man ... this is making me paranoid. Can everybody else view that page, too?

Hell, I'm going to bed. I'll try again tomorrow ...

Enderby  posted on  2006-07-25   22:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Enderby, Brian S, Eoghan (#8)

I can't get to it or the home of that website, which I've never heard of. Maybe they shut it down.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-25   22:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

I just went and copied the link into FoxFire and it worked just fine.

here is the url is used:

http://www.manartv.com/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx? id=230&language=en

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-25   23:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#10)

Still no go, and I am using Firefox.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-25   23:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#11)

Then it is a mystery to me. Works fine here on both IE and Foxfire.

I got the LINK to this website from the ADL article running in the sidebar. Perhaps some ISP's have complied with the ADL's wishes.

Comcast has not as of yet.

Go figure.

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-25   23:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin, Brian S, Enderby (#11)

i'm not getting it either. i'm on Maxthon (IE).

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-26   0:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine, all (#13)

OK, I'll confess.

I just made the whole Goddamned thing up because I had nothing better to do.

There.

I feel better now!

Delete this fucking thread. It is ALL a lie and a fraud.

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-26   0:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Brian S (#14)

I just made the whole Goddamned thing up

no, you didn't. i heard this somewhere else. ;)

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-26   0:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

Well I have to report.

I just shut down my cable modem and dialed into my freebee Netzero account and it would NOT access the page or any Manar-TV material.

Must be the ADL has been partially successful at least.

All the more reason for me to check into Manar while I have access and post their articles here.

:)

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-26   0:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine, Enderby, robin, Brian S (#13)

I can't view the page either. I have Comcast.

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it - by conquest or consent." - International financier and CFR member James Warburg Feb. 7, 1950

j.sulli  posted on  2006-07-26   0:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#16)

All the more reason for me to check into Manar while I have access and post their articles here.

yes :)

btw, I heard an Israeli pilot refusenik interviewed last week on either The Power Hour or Alex Jones.

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-26   0:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: j.sulli (#17)

I have Time Warner.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   0:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: j.sulli (#17)

Brian rates. :P

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-26   0:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: j.sulli (#17)

I can't view the page either. I have Comcast.

OKAY, now I'm the one, perhaps, that should be worried that I can access it?

/chuckle

'Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.'

Brian S  posted on  2006-07-26   0:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#14)

Try reaching it here: http://209.172.60.145/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx? id=230&language=en

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-07-26   1:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter, j.sulli, Enderby, Brian S, christine (#22)

Try reaching it here: http://209.172.60.145/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=230&language=en

that works, thanks

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   1:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#23)

They have been getting run all over the net apparently. I did a quick google: http://"manartv.com IP adress" and found all sorts of interesting stuff.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-07-26   1:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#24)

You're right, there's a whole raft of them being chased around.

find manartv.com on this page

http://www.opennetinitiative.net/studies/saudi/

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   1:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eoghan, BTP Holdings, Zoroaster (#0)

ping to Critter's find at end of this thread

The source link for this story is blocked by all cable providers. Critter found the URL, that works. Brian discovered ZeroNet dial-up service works.

There are a great number of sites being blocked. I wasn't aware, thought that only Commies like Red China and strange theocracies blocked websites.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   10:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: robin (#26)

The source link for this story is blocked by all cable providers. Critter found the URL, that works. Brian discovered ZeroNet dial-up service works.

Seems true, I can access it no problem w/dial-up Bell South, but dead link on broadband.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-07-26   10:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eoghan (#27)

How many more Hizbollah websites or other political websites are blocked? The most vile porn is not blocked.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   10:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: robin (#28)

Good question...I noticed the Tehran Times page was able to update after 2 weeks. That's not an 'odd occurance' now...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-07-26   11:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

Here is the original website from which the Al-Manar article was taken.

http://www.seruv.org.il/defaulteng.asp

And my own comments from Eternal Vigilance.

Editor's comment: It seems that this letter was issued in 2002 and is posted at this Israeli website.

The Al-Manar website is apparently being blocked by many ISPs in the U.S. It would seem that the ADL in the U.S. has been gaining ground in its attempts to censor the internet.

This letter shows us that there are some members of the IDF who will take a stand against the rabid Zionists who populate the Israeli government. And these 550 who signed the letter signify only those who had the courage to stand up and be counted. There are likely more within the ranks who hold similar sentiments.

Nevertheless, these 'refusniks' have the guts to stand up for their principles against the genocidal policies of Zionism which have been entrenched since the Jewish colonization of Palestine began in earnest nearly a century ago.

This Zionist colonization only picked up steam in the 1920s and 30s after the imposition of the Balfour Declaration by Zionist representatives at Versailles at the end of WW I.

The text of the Balfour Declaration was included in the San Remo Agreement of 1920 which created the British and French Mandates in former territories of the Ottoman Empire. Of couse, the Arabs saw this as a monumental betrayal since the British promised them self-determination during the war years.

The increased immigration of Jews resulted in the Arab uprising in 1937-38 which caused the British to impose restrictions on Jewish migration to that troubled land and caused the British to issue its White Paper of 1939.

One might think, 'well, this is old news or history'. Nothing could be a greater self deception than to take that path. Unless we know where we have been, we shall never know where we are going. Thus, the efforts at keeping our true history under wraps to be replaced by the Zionist "world of truth" which is merely a world of approved lies in which all opposing viewpoints are suppressed.

The facade of Zionism is not as monolithic as it might seem. And though there has been little protest in the controlled media over the bombings, Ha'aretz has published a cautious editorial on July 15, 2006 which gets at the truth of the matter.

This truth, however, is not so readily apparent to the casual observer who has been inundated with propaganda from the compliant media. We endeavor to bring you a piece of that truth here today. Our success will be evident only when the pressure builds on the criminals in government to the extent to cause necessary change. And with this change will come justice as those who have betrayed our trust will be called to account.

The comments at the Ha'aretz editorial, faithfully reproduced by al- Jazeera, are very illuminaing and show the extent of the Israeli protests which had already begun quickly after the first reprisals against Lebanon by the IDF.

The attacks on Palestinians have been ongoing for many years, even extending to seizures at sea by Israeli naval forces who have caused civilian vessels to 'heave to' and be boarded, whereupon some numbers of Palestinian suspects would be kidnapped from their voyage between Cyprus and Lebanon.

In the weeks leading up to the attack in Gaza there were many instances of Israeli terror perpetrated upon innocent civilians. The best known of which was the shelling of the beach on July 9th that killed 5 children.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-26   15:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]