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Title: The thread that's changed its focus from the original title. Carry on ;)
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Published: Mar 21, 2009
Author: m e
Post Date: 2009-03-21 08:19:06 by Itistoolate
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#718. To: meguro (#714) (Edited)
Freak Repugnant is 100% committed to the North ameriKan Soviet Union - New World Socialist Order.
Nothing free nor American about that.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 0:51:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#719. To: sneakypete, Palo Verde (#711)
IIRC, Palo took issue with Ron Paul followers being the spammers.
As far as the posting of threads, the threads posted about Ron Paul were articles being written in major news outlets about a candidate for the office of President.
It was ridiculous to state such articles can't be posted.
I do recall some thread or post about a RP assassination, or comments about such a thing, vaguely. It's been too long ago for me to remember with specificity; Palo may have already left by then, in any event.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 0:52:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#720. To: meguro (#714)
The craziest foxes hang in da 4um. ;-)
Then I belong here. :-)

Obots don't have a pleasant posting experience here. Are you an Obot ?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 0:52:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#721. To: nooz (#716)
I follow your point, but is that what you really meant?

Actually, what is it that you think I actually meant?

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 0:53:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#722. To: sneakypete (#693)
Really? Who have I ever had banned?

Pete, play dumb if you like. It's doubtful you are fooling anyone that posted at LP before. Have a fit if you like, just put a pencil between your teeth so you don't choke.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 0:53:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#723. To: Rotara (#720)
Obots don't have a pleasant posting experience here. Are you an Obot ?

Depends what you mean by Obot. If I voted for the guy, does that make me an Obot by definition? If I support some of his policies, am I an Obot?

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 0:54:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#724. To: Rotara (#712)
Maybe her Israeli-MIC-DHS handlers pulled the money plug on her - took away the yob (job in english) and funding for the Israel first site. Sounds good anyway. ;-)

Maybe she just got tired of packrat reposting glc's advertising, lol!

litus posted on 2009-03-23 0:54:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#725. To: Rotara (#718)
Freak Repugnant is 100% committed to the North ameriKan Soviet Union - New World Socialist Order.

You got that right.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 0:55:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#726. To: litus, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#719)
I do recall some thread or post about a RP assassination, or comments about such a thing, vaguely.

Recollection PING

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 0:56:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#727. To: meguro (#723)
Obots don't have a pleasant posting experience here. Are you an Obot ? Depends what you mean by Obot. If I voted for the guy, does that make me an Obot by definition? If I support some of his policies, am I an Obot?

You're more than likely an Obot.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 0:56:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#728. To: Rotara (#727)
You're more than likely an Obot.

OK, whatever.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 0:57:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#729. To: litus (#724)
Maybe she just got tired of packrat reposting glc's advertising, lol!

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 0:59:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#730. To: meguro (#721)
Actually, what is it that you think I actually meant?

You really think saying 4um is the alter-ego of LP implied software?
If that's really it, then say so.
Yes or No is fine.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 0:59:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#731. To: nooz (#670)
If you doubt 4um is quite so free, you must have a basis for that. What is it?

The statement by christine on the site's home page that anyone can be banned for arbitrary reasons? I don't object to that; I just don't believe in pretending that those words have no meaning.

Too Jewy, Too Truthy, Too Birther. Pretty much your words.

Well, I think my words were "Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier". Excuse my fondness for the rhythm of the words. You could almost make an advertising jingle for candy bars with it...
And here I thought you were telling me how freely everyone could express themselves here on any topic. Am I somehow oppressing you with only three teeny-weeny words?

And, the best part, if you ignore someone for being an a-hole, bet on you being on someones list too.

I tend to only bozo those with huge colored font sigs or endless graphics. Of course, LP didn't have a sig line feature (that I noticed) so 4um is better that way; I noticed 4um's no-taglines feature just after I started using browser filters to kill them all off manually in Firefox. Obviously, Neil Ivers produced a more complete forum software for 4um; LP has an older version. I got the impression that Neil parted ways with Goldi over how the forum was run though he was too classy to start a food fight with her over it.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 0:59:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#732. To: meguro (#716)
No, of course not. I was joking. But there are common posters on both sites. Is that just because of the connection with Neil?

Well okay. Neil who ;)

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:00:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#733. To: nooz (#730)
You really think saying 4um is the alter-ego of LP implied software?

First please tell me what you mean by "LP implied software" so that I can accurately answer your question.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:01:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#734. To: TooConservative, war, sneakypete, meguro (#701)
Since some of the discussion has been the comparison between LP's and 4um's policies and rules, I'd like to invite you to read our Home Page mission statement and our Free Speech policy. Just so you know. ;)

christine posted on 2009-03-23 1:01:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#735. To: Rotara (#729)
: )

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:02:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#736. To: meguro (#728)
You're more than likely an Obot.
OK, whatever.

Intellectual honesty will only highlight the deep voids you possess in character and America first patriotism based on Constitutional boundaries - in the spirit of the Founders. There's no fine line; it's black and white.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:02:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#737. To: nooz (#732)
Well okay. Neil who ;)

The guy Neil who developed the software for LP which seems to be the same software that runs this site. I have no idea what his full name is.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:02:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#738. To: Rotara (#736)
Intellectual honesty will only highlight the deep voids you possess in character and America first patriotism based on Constitutional boundaries - in the spirit of the Founders. There's no fine line; it's black and white.

Well, that's sure of mouthful of rhetoric. :-)

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:03:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#739. To: TooConservative (#731) (Edited)
And here I thought you were telling me how freely everyone could express themselves here on any topic.

Of course - just don't act all surprised when you get smacked upside the nog for being patently WRONG and / or IGNORANT. ~8^)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:04:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#740. To: meguro (#738)
Well, that's sure of mouthful of rhetoric. :-)

I'll never sell you short.
Unless I feel like it. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:06:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#741. To: litus, sneakypete, TooConservative (#705)
(litus) My recollection is that beyond Goldi's claim that "every other thread" being posted was about Ron Paul, there was lots of "spamming" type of threads, which Goldi decided to blame on "Ron Paul posters."
IIRC, that was a bald face lie. She didn't have a problem with frequent Mitt Romney threads, frequent John McCain threads, or any others who were running. Just Ron Paul and accusations that "just the spamming" was being done by Ron Paul "followers."
Ridiculous.
But Palo may have a better memory about that, since she left because of Ron Paul being verboten.
(sneakypete) I don't remember seeing frequent pro-Romney or McLunatic threads over there. Not on the order of the RP threads,anyhow.
(litus) Just Ron Paul and accusations that "just the spamming" was being done by Ron Paul "followers."
(Pete) That's the way it seemed to me,too.
Ask Palo. I think she was involved in this at some level because she was a pretty dedicated RP follower.

I think Goldi disgraced herself over Ron Paul
but Too Conservative said we (the Ron Paul followers) overdid it
that we turned whole forum into Ron Paul campaign HQ
and for posters who were not into that
we ruined the balance on the forum
TC may have a point, and perhaps Goldi was responding to that
but I don't think so
Goldi's candidate was Tancredo, she would have accepted LP becoming Tancredo all the time
if he had not dropped out
she simply didn't go for Ron Paul I have decided to overlook it that that happened, others may hold it agaist her
Love, Palo
I eventually returned to LP despite the banning of Ron Paul articles, I like the forum
and posters disobeyed the banning anyway, we always had Ron Paul threads going on

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:07:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#742. To: sneakypete (#708)
I agree. I was a RP supporter myself,and was happy to read about his thoughts on different subjects,but "RON PAUL EATS A CHEESE SANDWICH FOR LUNCH!" isn't exactly breaking news or something I'm interested in reading about.

Precisely.
These forums only have a certain amount of sidebar space. I recall seeing a half-dozen or more spammy Ron Paul threads in a row. That happened a number of times. Posting like that is just an attempt to use someone's forum as your own press release site. Sometimes really good articles just disappeared and were never seen by most posters because they just got bumped off the bottom of the sidebar list.
Of course, I didn't fail to notice how all the Ron Paul threads were supposedly banned. Well, except for a constant string of Paul-hater threads and I think a couple of well-known posters at LP had a second ID to post them under so they could then leap in under their real names. It's not like it's that hard to tunnel to a remote machine or use Tor. The Paul-hater threads characteristically were a single post from some Paul-hater blog no one had ever heard of and the poster of the thread left virtually no comments of their own. One assumes this is because they were aware that we all have habitual speech patterns and that their duplicity would be readily discovered if they posted anything under their fake ID.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:10:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#743. To: palo verde, sneakypete, TooConservative (#741)
Goldi's candidate was Tancredo, she would have accepted LP becoming Tancredo all the time if he had not dropped out

Very true; I forgot about that. She was all gungho behind Tancredo and, at the time, he wasn't doing well (was this shortly before he handed the reigns over to an open border faux conservative...shocking most Tancredo followers). RP was a genuine threat to Tancredo at the time.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#744. To: TooConservative (#731)
And here I thought you were telling me how freely everyone could express themselves here on any topic. Am I somehow oppressing you with only three teeny-weeny words?

Nice diversion tactic. No, I never said it, you did. This place was too "Birthier, Truthier, and Jewier". Still asking the same question. What's the problem.
Oppressed? Where did you get that idea?
I'm asking for an answer as to how you determined the above. What topics are off-limits therefore providing you a more pleasant posting experience?

I tend to only bozo those with huge colored font sigs or endless graphics. Of course, LP didn't have a sig line feature (that I noticed) so 4um is better that way; I noticed 4um's no-taglines feature just after I started using browser filters to kill them all off manually in Firefox. Obviously, Neil Ivers produced a more complete forum software for 4um; LP has an older version. I got the impression that Neil parted ways with Goldi over how the forum was run though he was too classy to start a food fight with her over it.
I really don't care.
No one asks me if I like their tagline either. I guess its just a free expression blasting itself all over the place. No neat little orderlines. Oh the humanity! LOL ;)

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#745. To: christine (#734)
My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Does this just apply to you or to everyone? :-)
So what do you see as the differences between LP and here?

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:11:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#746. To: meguro, nooz (#737)
(meguro) The guy Neil who developed the software for LP which seems to be the same software that runs this site. I have no idea what his full name is.

yes it is the same software
and it is great
was his last name McIver, Neil McIver
I don't remember now
when LP started the forum owners were Neil and Goldi together
but then Neil dropped out
he was libertarian 100 per cent
Love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2009-03-23 1:12:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#747. To: palo verde (#741)
She started off wanting to start another party.
Then she took a shine to that fake patriot tancredo.
She then said some nice things about Baldwin before shilling ultimately for mcKein.
She's a goof ball, israel-first, Ron Paul hater.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:12:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#748. To: litus (#743)
RP was a genuine threat to Tancredo at the time.

tancredo supported the Traitorous MCA & NDAA legislation.
Among other travesties. The NAU-Illegal Alien Invasion was a spring board for a nobody neocon but the real tancredo couldn't hide.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara posted on 2009-03-23 1:15:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#749. To: meguro (#733)
First please tell me what you mean by "LP implied software" so that I can accurately answer your question.

This is getting a bit stupid.
But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:15:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#750. To: palo verde, nooz (#746)
yes it is the same software and it is great was his last name McIver, Neil McIver I don't remember now when LP started the forum owners were Neil and Goldi together but then Neil dropped out he was libertarian 100 per cent Love, Palo

Well, maybe when it was first developed it was. Now, it's a bit outdated. :-)
But it works fine, so I'm not complaining.
So Neil started this forum after leaving LP? Excuse my ignorance, as I am not familiar with the history.
Love,
Meguro

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:16:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#751. To: meguro (#737)
The guy Neil who developed the software for LP which seems to be the same software that runs this site. I have no idea what his full name is.

ROFL. This is so funny.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:16:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#752. To: nooz (#749)
But, why don't you think on it a while and see if you can find where the missing comma would fit.

I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:17:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#753. To: meguro (#750)
Good Lord.

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:18:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#754. To: nooz (#751)
ROFL. This is so funny.

Not sure what's so funny about it, but I'm already getting the impression that I don't understand much about your sense of humor.
Oh well..

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:18:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#755. To: nooz (#753)
Good Lord.

Whatever.

meguro posted on 2009-03-23 1:19:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#756. To: palo verde (#741)
I think Goldi disgraced herself over Ron Paul but Too Conservative said we (the Ron Paul followers) overdid it that we turned whole forum into Ron Paul campaign HQ

No, palo. I'm not talking about the regular RP supporters, just a couple of seminar posters who went totally nuts.
I'm talking about only a few that I never saw or heard of on the real RP forums either like DailyPaul or RonPaulForums. You almost had to wonder if they were provocateurs. I'm pretty much always against disruptor types. And those RP forums monitored and analyzed every forum to judge which might be friendly or unfriendly to RP posters and RP threads. I can't recall opinion on 4um but LP didn't fare too well. FR was watched very closely by RPF folk and drove them all completely nuts, especially when they saw us all getting banned, one by one because certain whiny Rudi Drag-Queen supporters or certain circumcised persons or jihadist militarists complained about our posts against warmongering liberal New Yorkers in drag, foreign aid, the war in Iraq.
palo, your RP threads were terrific as were most of the RP threads.

TooConservative posted on 2009-03-23 1:19:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#757. To: meguro (#752)
I'm genuinely stumped. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

Thats fine. So, alter-ego means software in your world. I'll just wrap it up there.
If you have time, what does Birther, Truther and Jewy mean?

nooz posted on 2009-03-23 1:20:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#758. To: Rotara (#748)
the real tancredo couldn't hide.

It was unbelievable after he dropped out and supported Romney.
Unbelievable for those who thought he was sincere all those years prior to that occurring.
Yep...Tancredo outted himself the day he endorsed that fake.

litus posted on 2009-03-23 1:20:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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