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Title: Raw Video: George Zimmerman reenacts incident for Sanford Police
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX1sxARNq_c&feature=player_embedded
Published: Jun 30, 2013
Author: staff
Post Date: 2013-06-30 04:11:54 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse, All (#0) (Edited)

Published on Jun 21, 2012 by weshtv

Description: Defense attorneys release a video of George Zimmerman reenacting the fatal fight with Trayvon Martin.

2. Witness Says Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman - YouTube - 2.5 minutes

Published on Mar 24, 2012 by GooberTheUncouth

From the Description: Zimmerman can be heard screaming for help as the Witness called 911. [My Note: only one voice heard on those calls]

3. Journalists Threatened By Sanford Police.wmv - YouTube - 2.25 minutes

Published on Mar 30, 2012 by Gordon Duff

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4. Zimmerman v. Trayvon - Proof Martin Went Home, Then Back Out To Get George - YouTube - 2.75 minutes

Published on May 25, 2013 by Michael Mortimer

From the Description: Did Martin actually go home ... Look at these two news clips. On February 27, 2012, a few hours after the shooting, Brandy Green seems to be saying to the Fox News reporter that Trayvon was sitting on the porch ... in the video see that when she describes what happened and that he was sitting on her porch, she is at the "T" near where the shooting occurred, and pointing toward her residence and porch. ... So the question I have, when Zimmerman lost sight of Trayvon Martin, was that because Trayvon Martin ran back to Brandy Green's house ... [More]

5. WHAT THE DEFENSE DID NOT WANT THE JURY TO HEAR !!! - PART 2 - YouTube

Published on Jul 25, 2012 by Phil Owens [Language warning]

From the Description: A worried Zimmerman, who possible believes that the detectives are on his side, admits that the excruciating screams did not sound like him. ... His star witness John says he only heard three short yells.

6. George Zimmerman Trial Juror #b37 Does Interview With Her Identity Concealed - YouTube - 37 minutes

Published on Jul 15, 2013 by MOXNEWSd0tC0M

My Note: B37 indicates that the Jurors believed Zimmerman shot Martin because he believed he was in fear for his life but his own reenactment statements are contradictory and implausible. She claims at the 5:00 minute mark that the Lauer 9/11 call was significant because it went through before the struggle, during the struggle, the gunshot and then after... a 9/11 call by Lauer before the struggle? CNN Pics of Zimmerman show bleeding not seen in police film at video #3.

7. See simulation of Zimmerman-Martin fight - YouTube - 2.5 minutes

Published on Jul 9, 2013 by CNN

Description: Judge Debra Nelson is deciding whether jurors will see a computer animation of the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin fight.

This video shows a simulated reconstruction for court presentation that depicts Martin using his left arm to hit Zimmerman on the right side of the face. More importantly, it seems to be evidence that a struggle at the T-corner was not witnessed and (unless this is a PsyOp, which is likely) Martin was shot (or is thought to have been shot) directly across from his home or nearly so. In Zimmerman's reenactment video at #1 [10:30 mark], he raises his left arm to the left side of his face and claims that, rather than falling backwards to the ground after being struck, the fight moved forward -- not towards his vehicle but into the complex towards Martin's residence. There are major problems with his own statements in the reenactment video, such as: Why he didn't know the names of the streets, even for the clubhouse, when he supposedly lived in the area since 2007 and had been in charge of patrolling it since September 2011. Also, why his clothing in the police videos looked clean and dry; [since it had been raining -- was pouring down rain, according to Juror B37 at 9:19 of video #6]. He claims that Martin was moving for his gun and that's when he shot him but didn't know he had shot him, then proceeded to restrain him face down on the ground and, oddly, asked a guy with a flashlight for help to restrain someone who probably wouldn't have been moving at all by then. He did not ask the man to call for an ambulance or if he could help with First Aid/CPR. He told the man not to call the police because he'd already done that but the man would not have known for sure if he actually had done that or if he was assaulting Martin.

According to Zimmerman himself, this is not a "Stand Your Ground" case (in the sense that it's widely believed to be) but more like an alleged accidental shooting with negligence on his part to do anything to help or get help for someone who had not demonstrably used a weapon against him and, strangely, he tried instead to prevent a call to the police for help. It seems somewhat similar, imo, to the incident of a White victim being left to die in the street by Black attackers but not quite at that level, since this is reportedly a one-on-one struggle, Martin wasn't in the street and Zimmerman didn't leave the scene before the police arrived. Neither Martin or Zimmerman have impeccable histories (and probably very few people do) but that is a distraction from the evidence of the case at the point of confrontation. My impression, if this really happened, is not that there was no case that could have been properly charged for any conviction in this matter, if investigated thoroughly, but that it was maybe overcharged and/or deliberately thrown to agitate racial tensions, as it has. I think a closer look at the evidence above could bring about more balanced perspectives on how America has been baited into a worsened state of racial turmoil from this issue.

Edited for video numbering, punctuation and capitalization + sentence 2 of last paragraph and the next to last sentence there + last 2 sentences of the paragraph above it and bracketed inserts there.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-28   5:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Five 4um Topics referenced for Post #1 above:

1. Zimmerman’s Weapon Illegal Due to Domestic Violence Restraining Order - videos; Ex-fiancee's 2005 Restraining Order wasn't still in effect

2. You'll Feel Differently About George Zimmerman And The Trayvon Martin Shooting After You Read This: Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes [2009 - Wikipedia]. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black. ... In September [2011 - 5 months before the shooting], several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.

3. Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman - John Good: "The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop" [yelling?] "and I was calling 911," he said ... "When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point," John said.

4. Jurors hear F-bomb, knock-knock joke as George Zimmerman murder trial begins - "Tragically there was nothing that could be done," [Defense Attorney, Don] West said, referring to Martin's condition after he was shot. [Speculative]

5. George Zimmerman Trial Juror #b37 Does Interview With Her Identity Concealed - video

Edited to expand excerpts at first 2 links and add Wikipedia reference at #2.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-28   9:32:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: All (#2) (Edited)

This article info posted at #95 of another 4um topic is the only source that I can find for Trayvon Martin that says when he got sent to live in Florida, although Wikipedia reports that he'd visited there several times, so it probably wasn't unknown to him that the area had Neighborhood Watch Patrols:

Op-Ed: Was Trayvon Martin a Gangsta?

By John Dewar Gleissner
Jul 21, 2013 in Crime

We do not know if Trayvon Martin was in a gang, but he had tattoos. Immediately before his death, Trayvon Martin’s mother kicked him out of her house and made him go live with his father. Neither parent was sure where he was the night of the shooting, nor did they file any missing person reports. They found out the next day. [My note: Wikipedia says that "Martin's father, Tracy Martin, called to file a Missing Persons report early on February 27 and police officers arrived at his fiancée's condo with photographs of his dead son about 9:20 am." Somehow the ruckus, gunshot, police arrivals from the emergency calls -- likely with sirens blaring -- and transport of Trayvon all went unnoticed in their nearby vicinity and no neighbors contacted them about it either?]

This additional info is from Post #95, not that article site:

On Nov. 22, the day after the MMA-style fight, Martin told a friend that his mother “just kicked me out” and that he had to move in with his father.

On Dec. 21, 2011, Martin told a friend, “dam I just got in trouble 4 sum sh** I aint even do.” His mother, Sybrina Fulton, was dismayed. “Pack up your clothes now,” she texted him.

On Jan. 6, 2012, Martin got into trouble at school again. When asked why, he told a friend, “Caus I was watcn a fight nd a teacher say I hit em.” S aid the friend, “Idk how u be getting in trouble an sh**.” By this time, Martin’s mother had thrown him out of the house for “fightn,” and he had moved in with his aunt and uncle.

On Feb. 21, five days before the shooting, [My note: Trayvon] took the bus for Orlando to stay with his father’s girlfriend, Brandy Green.

Edited to correct Post # references.

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-07-28 14:58:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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