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#1. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Red Jones, Diana (#0)
We should send this to everyone on our e-mail lists, and have everyone send it to Pat Robertson. He has always said that the last sign before God destroys a nation, is its rampant practice of homosexuality. He would want to warn his followers about how these perverts are going to bring God's wrath down on all of us, I am sure :)
From the Archaic Age (776-479 BC) all the way down to the victory of Christianity (4th-6th centuries A.D.), homosexuality was widespread in Ancient Greece. That's a matter of several centuries, obviously, but the period when it was most widespread was the Archaic Age, which was at the start of this long stretch, and which culminated in the Greek victories in the Persian Wars. Not exactly a decadent society on the verge of collapse.
God might disagree with you. Here's a little history, if you want to figure it out. http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec009.html#13 http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Zec/9/13.html Tracing Dan - Part 1 Chapt 1 Among the earliest settlers in Greece were Danites who left Egypt as soon as ... Around 650 BCE, Greeks from Sparta (Tribe of Dan-- "Danaans" in Homer's The ... http://www.uhcg.org/Lost-10-Tribes/tracing-dan1.html - British-Israel.us - Lesson 28 - Were the Greeks Israelites? Were Jason and the Argonauts Danites? Was Sybil an Israelite prophetess? ... All Greeks were called "DANAANS" by Homer (Strabo 12:8:7) even though many were ... www.british-israel.us/28.html - Sea Peoples - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaTextual and archaeological records show that Greek and Egyptian state ... This constrasts with the Bible, which identifies the Danites of the Bible as ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea _Peoples - Keith Hunt - Migration of DanCyrus Gordon added, "Virgil also designated the Greeks as 'Danai.' Bold scholars see the influence of the Danites in Irish folk lore ... and in the name of ... http://www.keithhunt.com/Danites.ht ml - Weekly Article (Associates for Biblical Research)Jacobovici conjectures that Greeks referred to as Danoi by Homer are Danites who migrated to Greece after the Exodus. Since the Tribe of Dan helped make the ... http://abr.christia nanswers.net/articles/article.html - America & Britain in Prophecy by Raymond F. McNair Chapter 2Jones (Bronze Age Civilization--The Philistines and the Danites). He traces the Danaans, a name that the famed Greek poet Homer often used for all Greeks, ... http://www.cog21.org/abp/America% 20& %20Britain%20in%20Prophecy%20Chapter%202.htm - Brit-Am Now 547At all events the Greek account may be understood as saying that a small number of DANITES came to Greece, intermarried with local rulers, gave their name ... http://www.britam.org/now/547Now.ht ml - ================================= Gen 37:2 These [are] the generations of Jacob. Joseph, [being] seventeen years old, was feeding the flock with his brethren; and the lad [was] with the sons of Bilhah, and with the sons of Zilpah, his father's wives: and Joseph brought unto his father their evil report. Gen 35:25 And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's handmaid; Dan, and Naphtali: http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Gen/37/2.html ================================= **** THE LOST TRIBE OF DAN. THE EARLY JEWISH & CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE IDENTITY OF THE ANTICHRIST. by. Janet Moser. ". . .the snorting of his horses was heard from ... http://www.watch.pair.com/dan.html - Israel's Lost Tribes **** Israel's chief rabbis believe they are descended from the lost tribe of Dan. Others say they are descended from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba. ... http://www.infoplease.com/spo t/israel1.html - NOVA Online | Lost Tribes of Israel | Where are the Ten Lost Tribes? Ever since the Assyrians exiled the Lost Tribes of Israel in the eighth century ... of the tribes of Israel, namely, the tribe of Dan, the tribe of Zevulun, ... http://www.pbs.org/wg bh/nova/israel/losttribes.html - NOVA Online | Lost Tribes of Israel | Where are the Ten Lost ...Where are the Ten Lost Tribes? Part 3 | Back to Part 2 ... Over the centuries, the Beta Israel have been connected with the tribe of Dan. ... http://www.pbs.org/w gbh/nova/israel/losttribes3.html - Ten Lost Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Some members of Beta Israel as well as several Jewish scholars believe they are descended from the lost Tribe of Dan, as opposed to the traditional story. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Ten_Lost_Tribes - ============================= "....In an irony to Jewish history, could the tribe of Dan have gone to Greece and later to Rome? Could descendents of Dan have actually been involved with all the holocausts of Jewish history (Greek, Roman, Inquisition and Nazi Germany)?...." ".....Tribe of Dan Israel's Biggest Nightmare? Could the tribe of Dan have gone to Greece via Lebanon and later to Rome? According to the ancient Greek "story" the Iliad by Homer, the founder of Troy was named Dardanus. Dardanus had a son named Erichthonius, who had a son named Tros, who was the namesake of the ancient Trojans and of their capital city of Troy. Tros has three sons, Ilus, Ganymede, and Assaracus. Priam. the reigning kink of the Trojans, was of the line of Ilus. Aeneas, founder of the Roman Empire, was a prince of the royal house of Assaracus. Ganymede was the great- grandson of Dardanus. According to Homer's Iliad (Book V), Zeus kidnapped the prince, Ganymede. Zeus wanted Ganymede to be a special cup-bearer to the gods (which may be a clue to the origin of the legend of the so-called Holy Grail). The Iliad does not relate how Zeus carried off Ganymede, but there is an ancient Roman mosaic showing Ganymede, the Trojan prince, being carried off by Zeus, who had taken the form of an eagle. Here is a possible clue to connect the progenitors of the ancient Trojans with the tribe of Dan, who had adopted the eagle as their insignia. Zeus was sometimes pictured as an eagle, but at other times he was pictured as a serpent to whom offerings of honey were made. Here appears yet another clue. We have the symbol of a snake (the first insignia of Dan) to whom offerings of honey were made!! The honey could be a reference to the bees in Samson's riddle. Over the centuries some of the Spartans (earlier populated by Trojans) and Trojans migrated to southern France, and into Germany. In the Apocryphal book I Maccabees there is an account about the Spartans of southern Greece claiming they were related to the Jewish people and were, in fact, the stock of Abraham. A letter from the king of the Spartans to the Jewish high priest in Jerusalem is most revealing: "Areus, king of the Spartans, to Onias, the high priest, greetings. It has been discovered in a document concerning the Spartans and Jews that they are brothers, and are of the race of Abraham" (I Maccabees 12:20-21). The first century Historian Flavius Josephus also records this letter in his writings. Four symbols are used in the Bible concerning the Danites; a serpent, an eagle, a lion, and the bees. In the story of Samson we find the famous riddle of the bees who made honey in the carcass of a lion which had been killed by Samson. The symbolic nature of the bees could represent the concept that the descendents of the tribe of Dan would one day try to bring about the destruction of the tribe of Judah, whose symbol was the lion. Of interest, throughout the centuries, the Merovingian (European) royalty have for centuries been tied to the symbol of bees. When Moses gave his prophecies of the 12 tribes, he said that Benjamin would "dwell between the shoulders of Judah" (Deuteronomy 33:12), and that Dan, "as a lion's whelp, would leap from Bashan" (Deuteronomy 33:22). Bashan was located in ancient Lebanon. That Mosaic prediction came to pass when the tribe of Dan was deprived of its territory adjacent to Judah, moved north to Lebanon, and established its territory in Bashan. From there the Danites made a symbolic leap into obscurity (Europe; Germany? Denmark? Danube River? Irish Tuatha de Danann? Rome? Greece?). In Judges 18 the tribe of Dan established an idolatrous religion - the worship of the sun and moon. Has Dan plotted and perpetrated most of Israel's Sufferings? Of interest in the Bible is Genesis 16-17 that says; Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. "Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward" In Revelation 7 all of the tribes are listed (within the figure of 144,000 Israelites), except the Tribe of Dan. Can it be that Dan will produce the AntiChrist? In describing the coming Antichrist, in Daniel 11:37 we read; "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all" See much more about the lost tribe of Dan in the below fascinating book. Reference about the tribe of Dan above: "Guardians of the Grail" by J. R. Church: Caution: Satan enters in to all God's Truth to turn us aside. Some have succumbed to Satan and taken this information to it's worst possible end; White Supremacy. They listen to the Satanic lie and see themselves The Elite Chosen People of God. The Lost Tribes teaching is supposed to end in glorifying GOD, not man." http://bibleprobe.com/lost.htm =============================== see the Lost Tribe of Dan and the Noahide Law at watch.pair.com. Under the Noahide Laws It has been pointed out that the second Noahide Law which prohibits ... Under the Courts of Law section of the Noahide Laws is stated: "A person may be ... www.watch.pair.com/law.html [Rabbi Schneerson and the Noahide Laws, Judges, and Courts which will replace ours. Christianity, same sex, out. Homosexuality In]. http://www.cephas- library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_courts_will_replace_ours.html Amo 8:14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.
None of your start with the conclusion and build to justify it long windedness does nothing to counter the strong, impartial and peer tested studies by the APA. Homosexuality is something always with our species and is never going away. You can fight human nature all you want, but some men are always going to be sexually imprinted to seek sex with peers of the same gender and the same is with women. It is proven to be normal, ethical, and is not going away. I do not support using people to build a wedge issue to try to scare people into accepting flawed religious and political agendas. People who are homosexual are normal in every way and the APA studies showed this so convincingly that homosexuality is not listed in any way as a mental disorder. It has nothing to do with pedophilia, or does it promote the development of character flaws or exacerbate a person's normal character flaws and quirks of which all humans have plenty of. Just because a person's preferences in anything do not match my own, I do not condemn them merely because I don't have the same interests or desires they do. It would behoove you to learn to do the same, you are the one making yourself conflicted on this topic, not anyone else.
None of your start with the conclusion and build to justify it long windedness does nothing to counter the strong, impartial and peer tested studies by the APA. .... Homosexuality is something always with our species and is never going away. You can fight human nature all you want, but some men are always going to be sexually imprinted to seek sex with peers of the same gender and the same is with women. It is proven to be normal, ethical, and is not going away. I do not support using people to build a wedge issue to try to scare people into accepting flawed religious and political agendas.... I do not condemn them merely because I don't have the same interests or desires they do. It would behoove you to learn to do the same, you are the one making yourself conflicted on this topic, not anyone else. Had a family crisis, and couldn't get back to this. In fact, still only have a very little time..... If you are referring to the whack jobs that make up the American Psychiatric Association, check out THE MEN BEHIND HITLER at http://toolan.com for a lesson on how the psycho-psychiatrists worked hand in hand with Hitler and the eugenicists. Maybe the psychiatrists are part of God's revenge. I had I think 3 psychology professors in college one year, for ONE COURSE, 2 of whom didn't finish out the year, just got a message on the blackboard from admin saying they had been admitted to the psychiatric hospital. The ADA does not impress me. Sorry. Because you reject God, you lack understanding that this is not normal, and will be abolished, like it was at Sodom and Gomorrah, which He destroyed for sodomy. It is obviously something He won't countenance. Jesus, the same yesterday, today, and forever. It is He who is not going away. It would behoove you to learn that, but you probably won't. Not in time, anyway. But that's your problem, not mine. As Paul said, My hands are clean. I tried to warn you. ======================================== For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness....... Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves. who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. [note in particular, the golden calves at Dan and Bethel] For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and like-wise woman, burned in their lust one towards another; men with men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one towards another; receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful to parents, without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [sounds like the Fascists who killed homosexuals in Nazi Germany, and who run CorpUSA http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=35770 ] who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 1:18-32. It makes no difference whether I condemn them or not, and that is not my job; God already has, unless they repent and seek His grace.
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