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Title: Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches
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ABC News The Blotter
URL Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/three_more_form.html
Published: Oct 5, 2006
Author: Brian Ross, Rhonda Schwartz & Maddy Saue
Post Date: 2006-10-05 19:11:07 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 298
Comments: 15
Three More Former Pages Accuse Foley of Online Sexual Approaches October 05, 2006 5:20 PM Brian Ross, Rhonda Schwartz & Maddy Sauer Report: Three more former congressional pages have come forward to reveal what they call "sexual approaches" over the Internet from former Congressman Mark Foley. The pages served in the classes of 1998, 2000 and 2002. They independently approached ABC News after the Foley resignation through the Brian Ross & the Investigative Team's tip line on http://ABCNews.com. None wanted their names used because of the sensitive nature of the communications. "I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were," said the page in the 2002 class. The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he could stay at Foley's home if he "would engage in oral sex" with Foley. The page told ABC News he was interviewed this week by FBI agents who had a six-page list of questions about Foley and the exchanges. The second page who talked with ABC News, a graduate of the 2000 page class, says Foley actually visited the old page dorm and offered rides to events in his BMW. "His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis," the former page said. The page said Foley maintained e-mail contact with him even after he started college and arranged a sexual liaison after the page had turned 18. The third page interviewed by ABC News, a graduate of the 1998 page class, said Foley's instant messages began while he was a senior in high school. "Foley would say he was sitting in his boxers and ask what I was wearing," the page said. "It became more weird, and I stopped responding," the page said. All three pages described similar instant message and e-mail patterns, with remarkably similar escalations of provocative questions. "He didn't want to talk about politics," the page said. "He wanted to talk about sex or my penis," the page said. The three new verbal accounts are in addition to two sets of sexually explicit instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages. An online story on the Drudge Report Thursday claimed one set of the sexually explicit instant messages obtained by ABC News was part of a "prank" on the part of the former page, who reportedly says he goaded the congressman into writing the messages. "This was no prank," said one of the three former pages who talked to ABC News today about his experience with the congressman.
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They don't think much of Drudge's story. I guess he would consider them "beasts."
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"beast" ping!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Beast bump!
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Like Mr. Garrison, who also went into hiding, after his book In the Valley of Penises was "considered the best homoerotic novel since Huckleberry Finn."
This is a good example of how the GOP smear machine works when they get desperate. Drudge just makes something up, Limbaugh repeats it and the Freepers and LP people run with it. Once they have their excuse they completely close their mind to any other information. You can see this on LP right now. When the whole truth finally comes out these people discount it as a conspiracy by the 'liberal media'.
I must have hit a nerve in #58. The hits keep on coming: This is laughable. Who in their right mind would vote DEM after the shrill shrieks they've made over this, and have YET to clean their own house? Nope. This is nothing more than a Democratic wet dream. Lieberman is running away with the voters.... And so will the GOP. LOL! running away with the voters.... "And so will the GOP." 68. To: Goldi-Lox (#60) Fox News doesn't agree with your assessment, as well as most other so- called conservative news sites. What are you basing that on? Wishing it so doesn't count. http://www.pollingreport.com/2006. ht m P ar tisan Trends: Number of Republicans Declines to 32-Month Low "Only 29 percent of adults believe that the country is headed in the right direction." Human Events: CONSERVATIVES CALL ON HASTERT TO RESIGN Uncle Bill posted on 2006-10-05 21:12:38 ET (1 image) Reply Trace
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#68--damn, that's a lot of shoveling she's gonna have to do through all that "manure." :P
Hey, scroll down to the video Daily Show: GOP Quickly Abandoning the Sinking S.S. Hastert. LOL!
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Fair and Balanced. A Democrat? LOL! Bureaucratic snafu.
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GOP IN DISARRAY Buchanan: Hastert Is Gone As Of January. In an interview on MSNBC's "Hardball" Buchanan said, "I think Hastert is gone as of January, but I disagree with some of my conservative friends. I don't believe, Chris, you throw somebody under the bus until you know he's guilty. Now I think Hastert clearly has got the explaining to do. The burden of proof is with him. What did you know, if all you knew was the guy asked for a picture from somebody who's gone in Louisiana, I can understand how they might say -- because two newspapers felt it would be gay bashing to put that in the paper -- so I can understand that. But if he knew more, if he knew the explicit, these explicit emails, Chris, I think anyone that knew those explicit emails in a position of authority, those who ran the pages, should have told this guy, you know, get out of the Congress of the United States." [MSNBC, 10/3/06] GOP "Pushing Blame Off On Someone Else." According to Chris Cillizza of http://WashingtonPost.com, "So what you're going to see is what we've seen, a rare thing in Republican politics of late, a circular firing squad. You're really seeing everyone pushing the blame off on someone else, saying, Well, I sort of knew about it, but I passed this up the chain of command. And the reality is, is that the top of the chain of command in the House is Dennis Hastert, and that's why I think you're seeing, at least in some parts of the country and in some parts of the conservative movement, calls for him to resign." [MSNBC, 10/3/06] CONSERVATIVE LEADERS ARE LIVID Blankley: In This Case, Defending Denny Hastert's Decisions Is Ethically Wrong. According to conservative writer Tony Blankley, "In this case, defending Denny Hastert's decisions is ethically wrong, would undermine our party's commitment to the defense of traditional moral values and is politically stupid in the bargain. . When the speaker was told that Mark Foley had sent that first e- mail -- the "overly friendly" one we all saw last Friday -- he had to be either obtuse or on notice of the problem. . But the fact that, according to my best sources in the House Republicans, Mr. Hastert never informed any Democrats of the matter (even on the page oversight board), unambiguously suggests that he knew what was up. Thus began the cover-up. . Mr. Hastert had a moral duty to do all in his power to make sure there would not be more victims of Mr. Foley's alleged sexual predation -- or clear potential for such." http://[Townhall.com,>http:// [Townhall.com,">http://[Townhall.com, 10/4/06] Paul Weyrich, Free Congress Research And Education Foundation, Said It Would Be Better If Hastert Resigned. "Calls are continuing among social conservatives for the resignation of House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R) of Illinois and other members of the House GOP leadership, who are being faulted for not recognizing that 'overfriendly' e-mails Mr. Foley had sent to a male former House page merited further investigation. Foley resigned last Friday after additional electronic messages - sexually explicit in nature - to other teenage male ex- pages came to light. When asked Tuesday if Speaker Hastert should resign, conservative activist Paul Weyrich said, 'Yes, I think it would be better if he did.' 'One of the things that people say to me all the time is, in Washington nobody takes responsibility for anything,' continued Mr. Weyrich, chairman of the Free Congress Research and Education Foundation. 'And I think that he, having not delved into this the way he should have, has to take responsibility and therefore has to resign.'" [Christian Science Monitor, 10/4/06] The Harshest Words Came From Conservative Leaders, Who Said The House Leadership Should Have Fully Investigated Foley's Conduct In November. "Some of the harshest words came from conservative leaders, who said the House leadership should have fully investigated Foley's conduct in November, when the parents of a former teenage page for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., complained about chatty - but not sexual - e-mails that Foley had sent their son. . 'We are not satisfied that the congressional leadership followed through to sufficiently investigate this matter,' said Jan LaRue, chief counsel for the Concerned Women for America, a conservative advocacy group usually aligned with House leadership. 'You don't ignore what you characterize as 'red flags.' Certainly not when it's involving a minor, and minors that parents entrust into your care.'" [St. Petersburg Times, 10/4/06] Washington Times Editorial Called For Hastert's Resignation. According to the editorial page of the Washington Times, "Either he was grossly negligent for not taking the red flags fully into account and ordering a swift investigation, for not even remembering the order of events leading up to last week's revelations - or he deliberately looked the other way in hopes that a brewing scandal would simply blow away. . . Mr. Hastert has forfeited the confidence of the public and his party, and he cannot preside over the necessary coming investigation, an investigation that must examine his own inept performance." [Editorial, Washington Times, 10/3/06] Michael Reagan Called For Hastert To Resign. "Conservative talk show host Michael Reagan, son of the former president, and former House GOP investigator- turned-activist, David Bossie, today called for Hastert to resign." [FOX News, 10/2/06] Viguerie Said That The Leaders Were "Enablers" By Not Investigating Foley Earlier. "Richard A. Viguerie, the direct-mail pioneer, said that the leaders were 'enablers' by doing nothing to investigate Foley earlier, and said they should not be allowed to hide behind a criminal investigation until Election Day. 'This isn't an isolated situation,' said Viguerie, author of a book accusing the White House and congressional Republicans of violating conservative principles. 'It is only the most recent example of Republican House leaders doing whatever it takes to hold on to power. If it means spending billions of taxpayers' dollars on questionable projects, they'll do it. If it means covering up the most despicable actions of a colleague, they'll do it.'" [Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/3/06] David Bossie Of Citizens United Called For Hastert's Resignation. "David Bossie, who runs a group called Citizens United, called yesterday for Hastert's resignation and said other conservative leaders are likely to follow suit. Bossie said the initial e-mails alone, which included Foley's request of a minor's picture, should have prompted an immediate inquiry. 'That was a cry for an investigation,' Bossie said. 'Why couldn't the speaker of the House muster the will to stop this?'" [Washington Post, 10/3/06] * Bossie: [Hastert] Failed In His Duty To Investigate And Prosecute This Matter. David Bossie, president of the Washington-based advocacy group Citizens United, said Hastert had 'failed in his duty to investigate and prosecute this matter before it became a public relations problem,' a failure that Bossie said was 'morally repugnant' and may also cost Republicans control of the House. [Bloomberg, 10/3/06] Several Conservative Leaders Voiced Anger That House Republican Leaders Knew They Had A Potential Predator In Their Ranks And Didn't Take It More Seriously. "Several conservative leaders voiced anger that House Republican leaders knew they had a potential predator in their ranks and didn't take it more seriously. 'After the elections, if the Republicans are still in power, this may signal a change in the leadership, if it appears they knew more than they have reported to us,' said Mike Mears, executive director of Concerned Women for America's political action committee. Tom Fitton, president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, said Hastert, Majority Leader John Boehner, Shimkus and Reynolds have 'some serious explaining to do.'" [Fort Worth Star- Telegram (Associated Press), 10/3/06] Socially Conservative Groups "Described As Livid With House GOP Leaders." "Leaders from about six dozen socially conservative groups held a conference call late yesterday afternoon, and participants were described as livid with House GOP leaders. 'They are outraged by how Hastert handled this,' said Paul M. Weyrich, a conservative activist who participated in the call. 'They feel let down, left aside. How can they allow a guy like [Foley] to remain chairman of the committee on missing and exploited children when there is any question about e-mails?'" [Washington Post, 10/3/06] James Dobson, Focus On The Family: "Who Can Overlook What Foley Has Done? I Mean, That Is Breathtaking." "A leader of evangelical Christians, James Dobson of Focus on the Family, condemned Mr. Foley but seemed less sure of the incident's political impact. 'Who can overlook what Foley has done? I mean, that is breathtaking,' Mr. Dobson said yesterday on a radio show hosted by a conservative commentator, Laura Ingraham. . Mr. Dobson said voters might forget about the Foley affair by Election Day, but conservatives are still 'ticked' that the GOP has failed to push measures of interest to so-called values voters. 'The Republicans have done very little that they care about,' Mr. Dobson said." [The Sun, 10/3/06] Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy In Media Report: It's One Of The Worst Congressional Scandals Ever. The Foley case also drew criticism from conservative groups. "It's one of the worst Congressional scandals ever," Cliff Kincaid, editor of the conservative Accuracy in Media Report, wrote Sunday in an editorial circulated by http://Gopusa.com, a Republican Web site. "A top House Republican who denounced sex predators as 'animals' stands accused of acting like one." [New York Times, 10/3/06] Christian Coalition Disappointed With Foley And The Leadership. "Roberta Combs, head of the Christian Coalition, said she is disappointed with Foley and the leadership. 'It's very unfortunate that this has happened, especially at such a close time to an election,' she said. 'It'll prompt more scrutiny of our elected officials.'" [Bloomberg, 10/3/06] Tom McClusky, Family Research Center, Said Evidence Of Cover-Up Could Doom The Speaker. "Tom McClusky, vice president of government affairs for the Washington- based Family Research Center, said evidence of a cover-up could doom the speaker. 'If more is found out, that's when I think people should start calling for his head,' he said." [Bloomberg, 10/3/06] Conservative Bay Buchanan Blasted Republican Leaders' Response. "But conservative activist Bay Buchanan blasted Republican leaders' response. 'I know one thing, that e-mail they call an overly friendly e-mail, that had predator stamped all over it,' Buchanan said on CNN. '...They had an obligation that same day to investigate him further.'" [Chicago Tribune, 10/3/06] GOP MEMBERS ARE DIVIDED Rep. Davis: More Aggressive Action Should Have Been Taken To Determine The Extent And Propriety Of Mr. Foley's Conduct. "Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.), the House Government Reform Committee chairman, criticized House leaders' handling of the original complaint about Foley in late 2005, covering the e-mails to the Louisiana youth. 'This message constituted a warning that the safety and well- being of pages were at risk,' Davis said. 'More aggressive action should have been taken to determine the extent and propriety of Mr. Foley's conduct. If any members of Congress, leadership or rank and file, were involved in covering up knowledge of Mr. Foley's sexually explicit messages, they should step down immediately.'" [Chicago Sun-Times, 10/4/06] Several Republicans Now Say House Leaders Should Have Delved More Deeply Into Those Original Allegations. "Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Brooksville, was among several Republicans who now say House leaders should have delved more deeply into those original allegations. 'It was incumbent upon Mr. Shimkus and the board to start interviewing pages,' Brown-Waite said Tuesday. 'More absolutely could have been done. If you think there is an issue there, you don't just talk to the perpetrator.' Ken Connor, a longtime conservative activist who ran for governor of Florida in 1994, said it appears House leaders 'were more worried about the perpetuation of power than the protection of children.' 'The e-mails seem to indicate an unhealthy interest of a 52-year-old man in a 16-year-old boy' Connor said. 'I don't think it's enough that the parents didn't want to go further. There were several questions that they needed to ask.'" [St. Petersburg Times, 10/4/06] ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF THE GOP'S FAILED LEADERSHIP GOP's "Do-Nothing Congress" Marked By Scandal And Lack Of Legislative Accomplishments. "Republican lawmakers head home this weekend to campaign for re-election after overseeing a Congress that failed to enact their top legislative priorities and saw some of their most prominent leaders weakened or sidelined by scandals and disunity. None of the goals President George W. Bush set out in his January 2005 State of the Union address -- overhaul of the Social Security system, restructuring the tax code, reshaping medical- malpractice law -- was achieved. Bush's proposed overhaul of immigration laws is in limbo because of divisions between House and Senate Republicans. 'This is a quite unproductive Congress,' said David Mayhew, a political science professor at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. The only major legislation lawmakers can point to is an overhaul of the U.S. private-pension system this year, he said. ... The House has been in session only 93 days so far this year -- two weeks less than the 110 days in the second year of the 1946-1948 term that then-President Harry Truman famously dubbed the ``Do- Nothing Congress." [Bloomberg, 9/29/06] Foley Episode Is Latest In A Long Line Of Republican Leadership Failures. "Hastert's critics say the Foley episode is the latest in a long line of Republican leadership failures. Hastert largely stood on the sidelines last year as legal peril mounted for his top lieutenant, then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.). Then he intervened to try to save DeLay, first by trying to change House rules to allow an indicted member to maintain his leadership post, then by helping to purge the House ethics committee of members and staffers who had challenged DeLay's bare-knuckled tactics. Neither effort worked. It took months for Hastert to respond to the influence-peddling scandal triggered by convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and, even then, his personal pledge to tighten the rules governing congressional lobbying did not produce significant legislation. House GOP leaders seemed to have been blindsided when Rep. Randy 'Duke' Cunningham (R-Calif.) pleaded guilty to accepting millions of dollars in bribes. And after pleading guilty to corruption charges, Rep. Robert W. Ney (R-Ohio) remains in the House. Hastert continues to say that his staff's failure to thoroughly investigate the initial e-mails from Foley to a 16-year- old Louisiana boy was understandable, given the vague, friendly nature of the exchange. But others see a pattern." [Washington Post, 10/4/06]
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ruh roh
The bots on LP are a lost cause...no independent perspectives, no independent thought.
I guess they shoulda held onto high gas prices for a while longer. The benefit of $2 / gallon gas peaked before the Foley brouhaha. (ha ha).
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Matt's just jealous.
#6. To: robin (#2)
Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were,"
I've already said too much.
#7. To: aristeides (#0)
An online story on the Drudge Report Thursday claimed one set of the sexually explicit instant messages obtained by ABC News was part of a "prank" on the part of the former page, who reportedly says he goaded the congressman into writing the messages.
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Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-05 19:34:05 ET Reply Trace
Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-05 19:36:41 ET
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#13. To: aristeides (#0)
"This was no prank," said one of the three former pages who talked to ABC News today about his experience with the congressman.
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