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Title: Drudge Headline: SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
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Published: Oct 23, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-23 16:14:45 by christine
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#161. To: Dakmar (#160) (Edited)

Is everyone who dislikes thugs that bash ATM customers on the head a redneck, in your estimation?

nope.

but anyone who, after repeated urging to do so, refuses to acknowledge the illogic inherent in cynicom's "white guilt" argument is on shaky ground.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: wadosy (#158)

Interesting how you ignore the negro criminal but attack the whites who come to the victim's defense. This, my aged old fool, qualifies you for the white guilter of the day award. Report to the nest for delivery.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   19:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: wadosy (#159)

why are you so reluctant to point out the illogic of cynicom's position, that position being: since i dont hate blacks, i hate myself?

Because you lack the ability to differentiate between hating blacks and hating thugs. You apparently equate blacks with thugs and will defend the latter to the great detriment of the former.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Dakmar (#163)

i say again: any of you people who, after repeated urging to do so, refuse to acknowledge the illogic inherent in cynicom's "white guilt" argument is on shaky ground.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Lady X (#148)

Does it occur to anyone here that we are being distracted from something..

The story has sensatioanlistic overtones..

What are we not supposed to see?

Excellent point.

"We have a winner Johnny, now tell her what she's won!"

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-23   19:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: wadosy (#164)

any of you people

You people?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Jethro Tull, wadosy (#162)

Interesting how you ignore the negro criminal but attack the whites who come to the victim's defense. This, my aged old fool, qualifies you for the white guilter of the day award. Report to the nest for delivery.

I do believe the "Mother Ship" is calling. Can't you hear it?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-23   19:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Original_Intent (#167)

Is the invisible cloaking device up?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   19:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: wadosy (#116)

so you're saying this site is geared towards racists

Freedom4um is geared towards lovers of and respecters of the First Amendment or, if you will, non PCers.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-23   19:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Jethro Tull (#168)

Ship's Cloak Activated Sir!

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-23   19:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Dakmar (#166)

You people?

any of you white people who refuse to confront the illogic of cynicom's argument "if they dont hate blacks, they hate themselves" must be racists.

at the very least, you dont mind being taken for racists by any casual passerby that reads your threads and watches you kowtowing to this crap.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: christine, Dakmar (#169)

(1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target

Abe Foxman paid me 15 bucks to pop Dakmar's tire. Does that mean I'm banned? Would you consider spanking instead?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2008-10-23   19:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: wadosy (#171)

at the very least, you dont mind being taken for racists by any casual passerby that reads your threads

I don't give a rat's ass what any lurker thinks about my comments.

Update: Pittsburgh PD releases artists' sketch of perp who attacked white woman:

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   19:27:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: X-15 (#173)

at least you're honest, which is more than i can say for some.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: wadosy (#171)

at the very least, you dont mind being taken for racists by any casual passerby that reads your threads and watches you kowtowing to this crap

I get called racist for opposing affirmative action, welfare, crack babies, drive-by shootings, pimps, and purple polyester. Why should any of these things be sacred to either of us?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Dakmar (#175)

Dak, the founders were racists to these crackpots.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   19:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Dakmar (#175) (Edited)

I get called racist for opposing affirmative action, welfare, crack babies, drive-by shootings, pimps, and purple polyester. Why should any of these things be sacred to either of us?

i didnt say they were sacred.

based on evidence, i'd say they were bad ideas... especially the purple polyester.

but i notice, once again, that you refuse to acknowledge the illogic of cynicom's argument that, if i dont hate blacks, i hate myself.

why is that?

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Cynicom (#41)

If they do it will be the fault of the young lady that somehow attacked the innocent young man.

Shame on her, shame I say, for dulling his knife blade with her face! Oh the humanity!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-23   19:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: wadosy (#177) (Edited)

Once again, because you call anyone who dares point out the disproportionate dysfunction rampant among blacks a racist, yet you revel in ridiculing impoverished whites with your cracks about crackers, or remarks about rednecks, whatever the hell you were babbling about.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Dakmar (#179)

why are you unable to acknowledge the illogic of cynicom's argument?

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: wadosy (#68)

Funny her eye isn't swollen.

I really wouldn't put anything past the Bush Syndicate.

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tom007  posted on  2008-10-23   19:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Original_Intent (#71)

"It is a terrible thing to waste one's mind." ~ Dan Quayle (When he fractured the United Negro College Fund's motto: "A Mind is a terrible thing to waste."

I heard a football player one time who said, "A mind is a terrible thang." And that is not a typo, that is how he said it (except I don't know how to spell terrible to make it look the way he made it sound).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-23   19:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: wadosy (#180)

why are you unable to acknowledge the illogic of cynicom's argument?

Why are you unable to understand that I refuse to be a spokesman for everyone who you disagree with? Not my problem, man. It's getting old.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: tom007 (#181)

I really wouldn't put anything past the Bush Syndicate.

well, anybody who's willing to drive airplanes into buildings as an excuse to kill millions and steal their oil ... well, they're probably capable of about anything.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Dakmar (#183)

Why are you unable to understand that I refuse to be a spokesman for everyone who you disagree with? Not my problem, man. It's getting old.

so you come up with all these lame attempts to avoid pointing out the logical inconsistencies of cynicom's argument.

i guess we will just have to wonder: why is that?

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: wadosy (#180)

...the illogic of cynicom's argument?

Who are you to call Cynicom illogical? Are you assuming that we agree with your assessment of what is and is not logical?? Perspective, perspective...

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   19:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: James Deffenbach (#182)

I heard a football player one time who said, "A mind is a terrible thang." And that is not a typo, that is how he said it

LOL, I remember when I was like 5 or 6 visiting my second cousins in NE Kentucky and my cousin cut her finger. I had to ask my Mom, "Mom, what's a fanger?"

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: X-15 (#186) (Edited)

Who are you to call Cynicom illogical?

please explain to us how it logically follows that, if i dont hate blacks, i hate myself.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: wadosy (#185)

so you come up with all these lame attempts to avoid pointing out the logical inconsistencies of cynicom's argument.

i guess we will just have to wonder: why is that?

I've told you at least twice why he would have made that remark, not to mention at least five times I've told you I don't give a crap what other folks say. Keep wondering, Alice. Feed your head.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: James Deffenbach (#182)

"It is a terrible thing to waste one's mind." ~ Dan Quayle (When he fractured the United Negro College Fund's motto: "A Mind is a terrible thing to waste."

I heard a football player one time who said, "A mind is a terrible thang." And that is not a typo, that is how he said it (except I don't know how to spell terrible to make it look the way he made it sound).

How 'bout tar'bull?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-23   19:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Dakmar (#189)

i'm not interested in why cynicom made the remark; that's obvious.

what i'm trying to pry out of you is acknowledgement that his argument is illogical, and based on his racism.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: wadosy (#188)

Is this what we can expect from the aging process; to repeatedly ask people what other people mean?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   19:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Dakmar (#189)

now all we have to do is figure out why you are unable to acknowledge the illogic.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Jethro Tull (#192)

Is this what we can expect from the aging process; to repeatedly ask people what other people mean?

as long as this guy is willing to tapdance instead of anwering the question, i guess i will ask that question for as long as pleases me.

like it or lump it.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: wadosy (#191)

what i'm trying to pry out of you is acknowledgement that his argument is illogical, and based on his racism.

It only seems illogical based on your own racist perspective which holds that blacks should not be held to societal norms due purely to the color of their skin.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: wadosy (#193)

Again: your allegation that Cynicom is illogical. I perceive him to be extremely consistent based upon his posts.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-23   19:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Dakmar (#112)

It's my understanding that very few street thugs or stick-up artists base their political views on what's presented at this site,so I'll take my chances.

I am hurt, hurt I tell you! I thought this is where they looked to for all their commentary to gain street cred.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-23   19:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Dakmar (#195)

...societal norms due purely to the color of their skin.

so societal norms for white people dictate that any white person who doesnt hates blacks hates himself.

good enough

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: James Deffenbach (#197)

:)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: wadosy (#198)

so societal norms for white people dictate that any white person who doesnt hates blacks hates himself.

In your case, yes, that sounds about right. But you knew that already.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   19:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: X-15 (#196)

Again: your allegation that Cynicom is illogical. I perceive him to be extremely consistent based upon his posts.

agreed.

he's logical if you're a racist.

in the meantime, you are unable to explain why, if i dont hate blacks, i hate myself, as per cynicom's argument.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   19:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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