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Title: Drudge Headline: SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
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URL Source: http://www.drudgereport.com/
Published: Oct 23, 2008
Author: Drudge
Post Date: 2008-10-23 16:14:45 by christine
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Views: 9053
Comments: 659
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#68. To: christine (#0)
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from my previous post: it showed what-looked-to-be 1/8" abrasions on the woman's cheek, in the form of a backwards "B"... just like it would look if she'd drawn the B on her cheek while looking in a mirror. was the picture for real? ...who knows. i've still got the picture in preview mode of 4um. ...i will save it to tinypic and post it."
If he were standing at her head, would it be backwards>>>> You will never make detective grade.
ah. you think a young woman is gonna just lie there and let someone scrape on her face? dont you think he'd have to be sitting on her chest to hold her down, instead of "standing at her head"? not to mention the fact that whoever published that picture could have reversed it in photoshop.... the point being, it's way too soon for a hatefest... you should wait until the dust settles a little bit before you start frothing.
First photo, right hand to the eye, then stand at her head and cut her with the right hand. Second photo, left hand to the eye, right hand to cut. I believe the first makes more sense.
none of it makes sense. that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum.
You might want to temper your vulgar language.
you might want to use your brain and stifle your knee-jerk tendency to demonstrate your hatred.
I dont mind your hatred, I do dislike your vulgar language. Do try a few more manners.
if your delicate little sensibilities are offended by the word "motherfucker", you can put me on bozo. in the meantime, you and your redneck cohorts have demonstrated, time after time in the short time i've been here, that you'd rather hate than think.
We do not have bozo... We do like a little more decorum, I do hope you have some societal graces.
so i wont be accepted into your "society" until i start demonstrating "societal graces", graces that presumably include spewing race hate at the slightest opportunity. sorry, old fellow, you're just gonna have to put up with my lack of "societal graces", as defined by the redneck cabal.
Have at all the hating and name calling you desire. You are not the first one nor the last. However, your vulgar language is too much and it is ungentlemanly to use such around polite people. At home with your family, feel free to vent your vulgar spleen, just not here.
the fact remains: there is a large percentage of you people who leap on any sleazy little opportunity to vent your hatred... ...apparently not realizing that you're alienating more people than you're winning over... especially when you go off half-cocked, as you do so often... ...this present thread being just one more example. . i spose i could make you a deal: you tolerate my vulgarity and i will tolerate your hatred...
It's my understanding that very few street thugs or stick-up artists base their political views on what's presented at this site,so I'll take my chances.
aha! so you're saying this site is geared towards racists. who'da guessed?
Freedom4um is geared towards lovers of and respecters of the First Amendment or, if you will, non PCers. It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control. Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations. Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another. We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights. I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction. Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?
Your free speech seems to lend itself to crying about being called on posting this sensationalistic garbage and then ignoring the fact that the racists are crawling out of the woodwork. Free speech...ok, but posts like this promote racism. Maybe you think it's perfectly ok. I think comes from a lesser intelligence or consciousness. I'm sorry to see it here in such a majority.
Why is the story sensationalistic garbage ?
Why are you a racist?
Here's some stats, Mr. Angle. I hope they don't disturb your sensibilities. Now I'll ask again, what is it about that kids story that is sensational garbage? Race, Crime, and Justice in America Second, Expanded Edition, 2005 Click for the free PDF version Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities. Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery. When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife. Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate. The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic. Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent. Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black. Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery. Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa. Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white. Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely. Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million. Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
Are these results a function of color or class?
Who cares? We need to do one study on the effects of forced bussing on whites for instance. Bussing (to achieve artificial racial balances) has devastated public education in America and blacks are still underachieving losers, and here you are asking for more breast beating sorrow about the conditions under which poor downtrodden blacks labor? And, BTW, it's only American born blacks who "suffer" these crushing effects of "racism". Caribbean blacks have incomes roughly equal to whites while American blacks just can't seem to find that ladder of opportunity. It seems that too many blacks have embraced the status of social cripples and intended to milk it for all its worth. And you seem all too happy to assist in that white guilt campaign. "Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched. Well, fuck them. we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore. I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here. In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it. And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here. And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs? Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?
Well, fuck them. we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore. I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here. In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it. And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here. And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs? Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world? that is a heck of a display of lesser intelligence and consciousness, dawg! well done.
seeing as how we're gonna have to exterminate colored people to make room for whites, i guess you're performing a public service, here.
what the hell are you talking about? who said anything about shooting blacks or exterminating blacks?
i did. the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum lends itself to stirring up race hate that can be exploited, turned into vigilante action that will justify a declaration of martial law. all of this has to happen pretty soon, i'd say within a couple generations, maybe much sooner, or the govt will no longer be in control. at which point we'll see ethnic cleansing in america like we've seen in iraq. and you've made your contribution.
the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.
you encourage racism on the forum. there (above) is an example of free speech that you've declined to refute. you have refused to comment on cynicom's argument that anyone who doesnt hate blacks hates himself. i have pointed out to you the dangers of overt racism... if you continue to support overt racism, about the only thing an observer can conclude is that you support racism and its inevitable consequences.
you know what? i've had enough of you. bye.
He's right you know. Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior. So, this is a free speech forum? Just not his speech, right? You are way wrong in allowing haters and baiters in, and banning this chap. What was the matter? was he getting uncomfortably close to the truth? And did you think I would be too gun shy to give you my two cents worth on this? And in telling you you are being hypocritical here?
Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?
I am 100 percent convinced it is.
Ferret Mike: I am 100 percent convinced it is. So, Mike, are you saying you are in favor of criminalizing "thought" crimes?
Not at all. Racists have the right to free speech, and they are accountable for their words. What I consider criminal is the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism. I do not accept racism as normative human behavior. People who believe in racism suffer from a deep cancer of the soul. I did not see any foul language, and I did not see any ad hominem behavior, so I assume I missed seeing the posts Christine reacted to. None the less, he is new, and not a proved fuckwit like BeaChooser, so I don't support a banning. Christine can sure do as she wishes as this is her forum, but that is my opinion. And it sure is not going to change anymore then anything on racism I've read here has done so at all. I am giving my opinion and I am not going to belabor the issue. But I will say I don't agree with this.
Now you sound like Prof. Irwin Corey, who was a grade A double talker. Have I told you I don't trust you?
Actually, I am being very clear here. If someone wishes to expound on why they irrationally feel hating others, or feeling inappropriately that they are superior to them, they have a right to thrash about trying to prove that which is impossible to prove as it is flat an insane belief system. However, if they verbally harass someone and use their racism to steal someone's sense of well being and worth, and to denigrate their social standing, that person should be charged with a serious crime. I have always felt this, and I have always strongly and passionately felt this way. And I also don't give a damn if you trust me or not. I know where I stand on this issue. And I know I am right.
JT: "Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?" FM: I am 100 percent convinced it is.
Writing 'The Bell Curve' was not criminal behavior, calling say several young girls racial epithets and or beating up a man because someone does not like African Americans is overt damages done unto others that have standing as crime, as well it should.
Oh really? I can't help but notice that you only focus on examples of racism in whites impacting blacks negatively but you make no mention of blacks' racism against whites. Surely you must be aware of the high rate of inter-racial crime of blacks victimizing whites? It is a one-way street by the way, but you probably know that. Yet what's curious about this DOJ inter-racial violent crime statistic is that with regards to hate crimes being prosecuted by the Justice system, there's a paucity of cases where blacks are prosecuted under these "special circumstances." What gives, Mike? Are the high rates of black crimes against whites examples of blacks showing white people LOVE? You see where I'm going with this don't you, Mike - there's a certain PREJUDICE against whites when violence inflicted upon them by non-whites occurs. Therefore and thusly, I am rather leery of criminalizing "thought" crimes because those cases will only be prosecuted against whitey and unfairly so if "hate crimes" prosecution is any indication of how things work out when "good intentions" are in play. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
#553. To: scrapper2 (#549)
I don't support or sanction any racism, black on white, white on black, Hispanic against black, white against Hispanic, but they do have differences in origin and how each developed overall. White racism developed from a majority that used 'The Doctrine of Discovery' and later Manifest Destiny to mold and shape how racism was used to consolidate and build the doctrine of racism into a system of control and to maintain others in a permanent underclass in this country. I recognize European racism against Natives in the Americas, against Asians and Africans as a central part of the problem of racism in the United States. But all racism, regardless who has it and why they feel justified in expressing it is equally bad. There is no doubt about that.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"well, the picture of the "victim" seems to have disappeared itself already.
#70. To: wadosy (#68)
it showed what-looked-to-be 1/8" abrasions on the woman's cheek, in the form of a backwards "B"...
#74. To: Cynicom (#70)
If he were standing at her head, would it be backwards
#76. To: wadosy (#74)
dont you think he'd have to be sitting on her chest to hold her down, instead of "standing at her head"?
#78. To: Turtle (#76)
#81. To: wadosy (#78)
#84. To: Cynicom (#81)
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You might want to temper your vulgar language.
#85. To: wadosy (#84)
#88. To: Cynicom (#85)
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I dont mind your hatred, I do dislike your vulgar language. Do try a few more manners.
#90. To: wadosy (#88)
#94. To: Cynicom (#90)
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societal graces
#98. To: wadosy (#94)
#106. To: Cynicom (#98)
#112. To: wadosy (#106)
...apparently not realizing that you're alienating more people than you're winning over...
#116. To: Dakmar (#112)
It's my understanding that very few street thugs or stick-up artists base their political views on what's presented at this site,so I'll take my chances.
#169. To: wadosy (#116)
so you're saying this site is geared towards racists
#308. To: christine, dakmar (#169)
#309. To: angle (#308)
#311. To: Jethro Tull (#309)
#316. To: angle (#311)
Because as a police officer I witnessed the people you hold close behave like animals. I'm guessing you have never been in a slum and seen their handiwork.
The Color of Crime
Major Findings:
Crime Rates
Interracial Crime
Gangs
Incarceration
#321. To: Jethro Tull (#316)
#353. To: angle, Jethro Tull, christine (#321)
Are these results a function of color or class?
#361. To: HOUNDDAWG (#353)
"Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched.
#365. To: christine (#361)
#369. To: wadosy (#365)
#372. To: christine (#369)
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who said anything about shooting blacks or exterminating blacks?
#385. To: wadosy (#372)
the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum
#389. To: christine (#385)
the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.
#395. To: wadosy (#389)
#496. To: christine (#395)
#499. To: Ferret Mike (#496)
Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior
#501. To: Jethro Tull (#499)
"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"
#506. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#501)
Jethro Tull: "Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"
#517. To: scrapper2 (#506)
"So, Mike, are you saying you are in favor of criminalizing "thought" crimes?"
#527. To: Ferret Mike (#517)
What I consider criminal is the manifestation of action done to express or promote racism.
#530. To: Jethro Tull (#527)
#531. To: Ferret Mike (#530)
Actually this is very clear, you left wing speech Nazi.
#535. To: Jethro Tull (#531)
#549. To: Ferret Mike (#535)
Writing 'The Bell Curve' was not criminal behavior, calling say several young girls racial epithets and or beating up a man because someone does not like African Americans is overt damages done unto others that have standing as crime, as well it should.
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