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Title: Drudge Headline: SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
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Published: Oct 23, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-23 16:14:45 by christine
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#68. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

from my previous post:

"well, the picture of the "victim" seems to have disappeared itself already.

it showed what-looked-to-be 1/8" abrasions on the woman's cheek, in the form of a backwards "B"...

just like it would look if she'd drawn the B on her cheek while looking in a mirror.

was the picture for real? ...who knows.

i've still got the picture in preview mode of 4um. ...i will save it to tinypic and post it."

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   17:39:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wadosy (#68)

it showed what-looked-to-be 1/8" abrasions on the woman's cheek, in the form of a backwards "B"...

If he were standing at her head, would it be backwards>>>>

You will never make detective grade.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   17:42:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Cynicom (#70)

If he were standing at her head, would it be backwards

ah.

you think a young woman is gonna just lie there and let someone scrape on her face?

dont you think he'd have to be sitting on her chest to hold her down, instead of "standing at her head"?

not to mention the fact that whoever published that picture could have reversed it in photoshop....

the point being, it's way too soon for a hatefest... you should wait until the dust settles a little bit before you start frothing.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   17:49:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: wadosy (#74)

dont you think he'd have to be sitting on her chest to hold her down, instead of "standing at her head"?

First photo, right hand to the eye, then stand at her head and cut her with the right hand.

Second photo, left hand to the eye, right hand to cut.

I believe the first makes more sense.

Turtle  posted on  2008-10-23   17:55:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Turtle (#76)

none of it makes sense.

that's why you should wait before you start spewing hatred all over this motherfucking forum.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   17:56:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: wadosy (#78)

You might want to temper your vulgar language.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   17:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom (#81) (Edited)

You might want to temper your vulgar language.

you might want to use your brain and stifle your knee-jerk tendency to demonstrate your hatred.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   18:00:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: wadosy (#84)

I dont mind your hatred, I do dislike your vulgar language. Do try a few more manners.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   18:01:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Cynicom (#85) (Edited)

I dont mind your hatred, I do dislike your vulgar language. Do try a few more manners.

if your delicate little sensibilities are offended by the word "motherfucker", you can put me on bozo.

in the meantime, you and your redneck cohorts have demonstrated, time after time in the short time i've been here, that you'd rather hate than think.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   18:03:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: wadosy (#88)

We do not have bozo...

We do like a little more decorum, I do hope you have some societal graces.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   18:05:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Cynicom (#90) (Edited)

societal graces

so i wont be accepted into your "society" until i start demonstrating "societal graces", graces that presumably include spewing race hate at the slightest opportunity.

sorry, old fellow, you're just gonna have to put up with my lack of "societal graces", as defined by the redneck cabal.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   18:08:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: wadosy (#94)

Have at all the hating and name calling you desire. You are not the first one nor the last.

However, your vulgar language is too much and it is ungentlemanly to use such around polite people. At home with your family, feel free to vent your vulgar spleen, just not here.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-23   18:11:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Cynicom (#98)

the fact remains: there is a large percentage of you people who leap on any sleazy little opportunity to vent your hatred...

...apparently not realizing that you're alienating more people than you're winning over... especially when you go off half-cocked, as you do so often...

...this present thread being just one more example.

.

i spose i could make you a deal: you tolerate my vulgarity and i will tolerate your hatred...

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   18:18:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: wadosy (#106)

...apparently not realizing that you're alienating more people than you're winning over...

It's my understanding that very few street thugs or stick-up artists base their political views on what's presented at this site,so I'll take my chances.

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-23   18:22:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Dakmar (#112)

It's my understanding that very few street thugs or stick-up artists base their political views on what's presented at this site,so I'll take my chances.

aha!

so you're saying this site is geared towards racists.

who'da guessed?

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-23   18:24:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: wadosy (#116)

so you're saying this site is geared towards racists

Freedom4um is geared towards lovers of and respecters of the First Amendment or, if you will, non PCers.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?

christine  posted on  2008-10-23   19:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: christine, dakmar (#169)

Your free speech seems to lend itself to crying about being called on posting this sensationalistic garbage and then ignoring the fact that the racists are crawling out of the woodwork. Free speech...ok, but posts like this promote racism.

Maybe you think it's perfectly ok. I think comes from a lesser intelligence or consciousness. I'm sorry to see it here in such a majority.

angle  posted on  2008-10-23   22:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: angle (#308)

Why is the story sensationalistic garbage ?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   22:39:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: Jethro Tull (#309)

Why are you a racist?

angle  posted on  2008-10-23   22:42:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: angle (#311)

Because as a police officer I witnessed the people you hold close behave like animals. I'm guessing you have never been in a slum and seen their handiwork.

Here's some stats, Mr. Angle. I hope they don't disturb your sensibilities.

Now I'll ask again, what is it about that kids story that is sensational garbage?

The Color of Crime

Race, Crime, and Justice in America


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The 
Color of Crime: Race, Crime, and Justice in America

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Major Findings:

Crime Rates

Interracial Crime

Gangs

Incarceration


Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-23   22:49:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: Jethro Tull (#316)

Are these results a function of color or class?

angle  posted on  2008-10-23   22:56:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: angle, Jethro Tull, christine (#321)

Are these results a function of color or class?

Who cares?

We need to do one study on the effects of forced bussing on whites for instance.

Bussing (to achieve artificial racial balances) has devastated public education in America and blacks are still underachieving losers, and here you are asking for more breast beating sorrow about the conditions under which poor downtrodden blacks labor?

And, BTW, it's only American born blacks who "suffer" these crushing effects of "racism". Caribbean blacks have incomes roughly equal to whites while American blacks just can't seem to find that ladder of opportunity.

It seems that too many blacks have embraced the status of social cripples and intended to milk it for all its worth.

And you seem all too happy to assist in that white guilt campaign.

"Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched.

Well, fuck them.

we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore.

I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here.

In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it.

And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here.

And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs?

Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-23   23:34:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#361. To: HOUNDDAWG (#353)

"Defensive racism" is defined as "the desire to secure a future for our children" and in our own country the mere utterance of that phrase is some kind of "crime" to those who absolutely demand that whites be held down and carefully watched.

Well, fuck them.

we ain't cringing at the charge of "racist" anymore.

I'm not going to apologize for being white or having white children, and, if they mean to have a war then let it begin here.

In the mean time why don't you do a little research and try to find a black/colored abolitionist movement anywhere in the world before whites started it.

And then explain why slavery still exists in dark countries just as it did when slaves were brought here.

And, why aren't you shaming some darkies for that obscene state of affairs?

Why do you seem to prefer browbeating the hard working whites who have elevated (with our tax dollars) American blacks to the healthiest, best educated and wealthiest in the world?

that is a heck of a display of lesser intelligence and consciousness, dawg! well done.

christine  posted on  2008-10-23   23:53:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#365. To: christine (#361)

seeing as how we're gonna have to exterminate colored people to make room for whites, i guess you're performing a public service, here.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-24   0:00:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#369. To: wadosy (#365)

what the hell are you talking about? who said anything about shooting blacks or exterminating blacks?

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   0:08:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: christine (#369) (Edited)

who said anything about shooting blacks or exterminating blacks?

i did.

the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum lends itself to stirring up race hate that can be exploited, turned into vigilante action that will justify a declaration of martial law.

all of this has to happen pretty soon, i'd say within a couple generations, maybe much sooner, or the govt will no longer be in control.

at which point we'll see ethnic cleansing in america like we've seen in iraq.

and you've made your contribution.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-24   0:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: wadosy (#372)

the atmosphere you seem to encourage in this forum

the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   0:51:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#389. To: christine (#385)

the atmosphere i encourage in this forum is freedom of expression. if you can't handle it and you are advocating censorship, then Freedom4um is not the forum for you.

you encourage racism on the forum.

there (above) is an example of free speech that you've declined to refute.

you have refused to comment on cynicom's argument that anyone who doesnt hate blacks hates himself.

i have pointed out to you the dangers of overt racism... if you continue to support overt racism, about the only thing an observer can conclude is that you support racism and its inevitable consequences.

wadosy  posted on  2008-10-24   0:55:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: wadosy (#389)

you know what? i've had enough of you. bye.

christine  posted on  2008-10-24   1:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: christine (#395)

He's right you know. Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior. So, this is a free speech forum?

Just not his speech, right? You are way wrong in allowing haters and baiters in, and banning this chap. What was the matter? was he getting uncomfortably close to the truth?

And did you think I would be too gun shy to give you my two cents worth on this? And in telling you you are being hypocritical here?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:13:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: Ferret Mike (#496)

Racism is debunked and as worthless as any other criminal behavior

Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:15:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: Jethro Tull (#499)

"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

I am 100 percent convinced it is.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   22:17:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#501)

"Racism is criminal behaviour, bunky?"

I am 100 percent convinced it is.

Taking poetic license with definitions I see.

Is it time for another zinging ricochet into another pointless discussion that will inevitably end with an insult and dismissal once you're cornered by your own flawed premise?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:40:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: HOUNDDAWG, Mike Ferret (#513)

Last week Mike began his Obama victory lap. I knew he'd build up to to this; calling racism a crime. Shades of things to come from the Os.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-24   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: Jethro Tull (#515)

Last week Mike began his Obama victory lap. I knew he'd build up to to this; calling racism a crime. Shades of things to come from the Os.

Actually, there are rumblings from the election watchers and the old boy network may be setting up to steal this one too.

If I was Barack I wouldn't order dinner and drinks for three thousand of my closest friends just yet....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-24   22:54:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: HOUNDDAWG (#518)

"Actually, there are rumblings from the election watchers and the old boy network may be setting up to steal this one too."

You are correct, and I wonder if they won't try to claim the Bradley Effect is what made the thing go south if it does. At DU there have been threads about machine malfunctions in several places.

Though here in Lane County the city and county government are going to spring for the extra postage if people don't put the right amount on the ballots that weigh more then normal and are in a larger envelope then usual.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-24   23:02:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Jethro Tull (#523) (Edited)

You are correct, and I wonder if they won't try to claim the Bradley Effect is what made the thing go south if it does. At DU there have been threads about machine malfunctions in several places.

Though here in Lane County the city and county government are going to spring for the extra postage if people don't put the right amount on the ballots that weigh more then normal and are in a larger envelope then usual.

FYI, I was living in Los Angeles in 1982 when former LA Mayor Tom Bradley lost the governor's race to George Deukmejian, and the real reason that Bradley was defeated was Proposition 15.

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"The “Bradley Effect” and Prop 15 (and Prop 8?)

A lot has been written in the past several weeks about the “Bradley effect” (also sometimes called the “Wilder effect,” after Douglas Wilder, the former governor of Virginia). The term purports to name a phenomenon in which voters indicate to pollsters that they are planning to vote for an African-American candidate but end up choosing the opposite course once at the polling station.

The phenomenon was named after Tom Bradley, the late mayor of Los Angeles, who, according to the theory, was ahead in most polls in the California gubernatorial race in 1982 but ended up losing the election to George Deukmejian by a margin of nearly 100,000 votes. The phenomenon was apparently first described by Mervin Field, who on election night predicted a five-point Bradley win based on exit polls, but later told the Los Angeles Times that he believed that “conservative whites were under-represented in his sample and that minority groups were over-represented,” adding that “some conservative whites do not like to be polled and won’t cooperate.”

Leo McElroy, a Sacramento political consultant, told KCBS Radio News this morning that he thought that while there was some evidence in favor of the “Bradley effect,” there was also evidence that Proposition 15, 1982’s gun control initiative, brought out many voters to the polls who might not have otherwise participated. He seemed to suggest that Proposition 15 was as much a factor in Bradley’s loss as any “Bradley effect.” (Proposition 15 lost at the polls by an overwhelming margin.) (2 to 1 to be exact-HD)

In any case, the “Bradley effect” terminology, whether it accurately depicts a phenomenon of voting behavior or not, has become part of the lexicon, and has been applied not only to the 2008 presidential race, in which Barack Obama is ahead of John McCain in many polls, but to contests like the battle over Proposition 8, in which a seemingly insurmountable poll lead for opponents of the measure during the summer vanished during the fall."

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The fact is, the gun initiative brought rural voters out who wouldn't have bothered to vote if the only issue was California getting its first African American governor. Those same voters were not polled for that reason-they were not a factor in previous elections.

It's a sad truth that the story that would have the most sticking power is the one that implies that whites are closet racists who lie to pollsters. The media can't bring themselves to admit that Prop 15, which they backed tooth and nail and jammed down our throats for weeks before the election cost Bradley the race.

For what it's worth Deukmejian was extremely eloquent in his speeches and on talk show interviews, and he said all the right things at a time when Ronald Reagan was ascending to the throne of conservo demigod.

Bradley was an uninspired cookie cutter liberal anti gunner (and former LAPD Lieutenant-the highest African American officer at that time-but cops in general and LAPD in particular ain't exactly the heroes of CA politics) with a message that appealed to few, and his primary support come from non (and anti) white interests, who would have voted for any black running regardless of qualifications. The minority racists would have been easy to document and expose, simply by asking some what they liked about Bradley's platform. But the MSM in CA wouldn't ever do that. There are only so many column inches in print and minutes of airtime and that must be reserved to document "white racism".

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Regarding Lane County's planned enforcement of postage on ballots, someone could collect a few hundred bux and drop it off to be used to pay for any postage deficits that arrive at elections.

And, then dare those bastards to try and reject any ballot for insufficient postage.

They've already killed my candidate's chances and robbed Americans of the chance to restore our former greatness.

So, who wins isn't important, but how they win can still bring out the Hellfire in me.

Crooks like former Ohio Sec. Of State Ken Blackwell and his cronies, the execs at DIEBOLD belong in prison, singing, "NOBODY KNOW THE TROUBLE I'VE SEEN....NOBODY KNOWS....BUT JESUS....."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-25   1:38:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: HOUNDDAWG (#552)

It's a sad truth that the story that would have the most sticking power is the one that implies that whites are closet racists who lie to pollsters. The media can't bring themselves to admit that Prop 15, which they backed tooth and nail and jammed down our throats for weeks before the election cost Bradley the race.

For what it's worth Deukmejian was extremely eloquent in his speeches and on talk show interviews, and he said all the right things at a time when Ronald Reagan was ascending to the throne of conservo demigod.

Bradley was an uninspired cookie liberal anti gunner (and former LAPD Lieutenant-the highest African American officer at that time-but cops in general and LAPD in particular ain't exactly the heroes of CA politics) with a message that appealed to few, and his primary support come from non (and anti) white interests, who would have voted for any black running regardless of qualifications.

Insightful post though I'd quibble with your use of the word "racist" when you refer to the reason white voters cast their ballots for Deukmejian. They voted for the candidate with whom they most closely identified, a very natural behavior instinct. It was not a case of their voting against Bradley because he was black.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-25   1:46:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#567. To: scrapper2 (#556)

...though I'd quibble with your use of the word "racist" when you refer to the reason white voters cast their ballots for Deukmejian. They voted for the candidate with whom they most closely identified, a very natural behavior instinct. It was not a case of their voting against Bradley because he was black.

An excellent point, and no one in the CA MSM would ever think to air the question, "Why is Tom Bradley automatically presumed to be the better candidate?"

It seemed that the unspoken presumption was "It's time for a person of color to be governor" and "right thinking whites" were supposed to "do social justice" by voting for Bradley.

It may be difficult for outsiders to believe but CA is that eat slap up (as mah Confederate relations would say) with unrepentant liberalism, and for whites that meant heaping ladles of guilt and sacrifice by falling on their swords (voting against their perceived interests) at that time.

When my former trumpet player learned I was moving to LA, he just laughed. (He was a postal worker out there years before)

When I asked why he chortled to himself he said, "You'll find out!"

And, I did.

When Bradley's defeat was announced the newscasters were so somber and heartbroken that I actually laughed out loud while watching them on TV! It was as if Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden had opened a combination assault rifle/indoor target shooting boutique and daycare center on Rodeo Drive!

And when Prop 15 fell by a 2 to 1 margin the newscaster banged his fist on the desk and shouted, "WHEN WILL PEOPLE EVER LEARN?"

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The gun proposition was extremely divisive because the media totally blocked out any spoken and written opposition to the ban, and we were carpet bombed with proponents on talks shows, in newspapers and even nightly newscasts for weeks before. It was clear that any dirty trick they could use was fair to "defeat the awesome gun lobby" a tactic that was later repeated in MD when they created their "handgun approval (ban) board" which by fiat may decree what guns are available for sale in the state..

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