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Title: Was the 4um Hijacked by the McCain's Losers? I think So
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Published: Nov 4, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-11-04 11:27:21 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 3744
Comments: 172

It's quite sad, actually, because the late McCainism on proud display at the 4um leaves the impression of a bunch of half-witted, hateful losers well... showing themselves as half-witted losers for the world to see and throw up.

Yes, I know, 'it makes no difference', 'it's all the same', 'it's 'them' who do these terrible things to poor 'us'' which, dear losers, it's just loser B.S. Last night, I watched some of the losers abandoning all decency and competing to say the more vile things about Obama's dead grandmother - that's where the 'world throwing up when noticing you' part comes from. You should be quite proud of yourself and make sure that you keep congratulating each other for your brilliant wits and moral fibers because no one else will.

Just to clarify. I am not saying that everyone who posts at this site is a despicable loser. The despicable losers may, in fact, be a small minority but, as far as I can see, they are the ones who are squealing and screaming and, possibly, keeping other decent persons away from this site. For the record, I find Christine as a most decent person, even if she doesn't always agree with me and there are others with whom I don't always agree but who are decent. Personally, I have no problems with disagreements but I also understand that no human (like myself) can have a meaningful dialogue or debate with pigs or chimps or McCain lovers (like the current frequent squealers) who claim that they are not McCain lovers. It would be great if some of them could evolve and improve.

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#85. To: Flintlock, Christine, Jethro Tull (#84)

Robin Fuck her

She's a lefty who pretended to be a Libertarian until she showed her true colors as a RAT...just like you

Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)

Hilarious!!!!

Robin did a political 180 and has spent the last few weeks manning a phone bank for Obingo. She no longer stands for freedom.

Aristides, likewise, hopped in the Obama tank and lost all credibility. His ego doesn't permit the second tier status he earned.

Neil is the king of poor judgement and his 2nd amendment argument was poorly received here.

So, what is it we've lost?

Two PILES and one expat.

You're a pisser :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   14:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Flintlock (#84)

Vast has no point. It was clear long ago that Vast was a closet queen.

I cannot recall ever reading anything original nor profound from Vast that ever elicited any interest. It has always been childish partisan carping.

To my mind Vast exhibits a total absence of ability to think on his or her own, whichever.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-11-04   14:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Jethro Tull (#85)

robin

Like JT said she no longer stands for freedom, so fuck her and fuck you too

Now go ping anybody you want, you little twerp hall monitor

FUCK YOU!

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-11-04   14:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Cynicom (#87)

Bless your heart, my friend :) May you see the light and turn your back to the dark side, one of these days, soon.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jethro Tull (#86)

Aristides, likewise, hopped in the Obama tank and lost all credibility.

Some former Ron Paul supporters turned out to be closet leftists and now support Obama.

Others turned out to be closet neocons and now support McCain.

And the difference is what? Freeperville vs. DU? Screw them both - Ron Paul had the good sense and integrity to refuse to endorse either candidate instead of pulling a Buchanan and backing the neocon in the race, or a Paul Craig Roberts and backing the liberal.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-11-04   14:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Flintlock (#88)

FUCK YOU!

Don't worry, and do not be alarmed. I have nothing against you. I only used your valuable contribution as an exhibit to illustrate a point I was making to someone else. So, it has nothing to do with you.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#80)

You seem to be inferring or suggesting that I ban and/or censor certain "contributors." Below is my free speech policy. Any and all are welcomed to exercise their right to freedom of association or non association.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   14:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#91)

Like I said, I feel sorry for your kids having something like you as a parent

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-11-04   14:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: christine (#92)

The people who left did so as they could not earnestly or honestly debate. They exposed themselves as frauds and as such, tucked tail in shame and left. Good riddance.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-04   14:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#92) (Edited)

I never suggested that you banned anyone. I believe I stated that some just... left and that's a fact. It happens and it's natural. I, myself, haven't visited LibertyPost or LibertyForum in many months. I wasn't banned, I simply lost interest.

Does it seem that you are encouraging some of the more feeble-minded or bad- mannered who don't know better than 'debate' by personally attacking those they disagree with? I am afraid that it does seem to be the case. This is the way I see it and I am doing nothing but express my view on the topic.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#90)

I wouldn't vote for either but I do understand the argument that McCain is less likely to tinker w/the 2nd, nor increase our taxes and, of course, there won't be Kwanzaa celebrations in the WH if he wins. I honestly believe Obama is a creation of the radical left and his domestic policy will resemble the policies of a collegiate Black Student Union at any university in America.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   14:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Jethro Tull (#86)

She no longer stands for freedom.

Never did.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-04   14:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Jethro Tull (#96) (Edited)

I honestly believe Obama is a creation of the radical left and his domestic policy will resemble the policies of a collegiate Black Student Union at any university in America.

All true, but McCain and Palin are creations of PNAC. Like I told Flintlock, when I look at McCain and Palin, I see their puppetmasters, Lieberman and Kristol. That's the reality of a McCain presidency, just like the reality of an Obama presidency is Reverend Wright and Al Sharpton.

The choice between McCain and Obama is effectively a choice between Kristol and Sharpton for President. That's the long and short of it.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-11-04   14:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#95)

I believe I stated that some just... left and that's a fact.

They LEFT because their politics suddenly swung to the LEFT. This after years, and years and years of pretending to be constitutionalists and freedom lovers. This after some were fed - literally - by some of us, when they were down on their luck. Our thanks was a smack in the face but we've come to expect that from the NEOLEFT. That they left and are LEFT is a tribute to the MSM, political correctness and white guilt. That you voted for a man who will place your kids into Marxist slavery is your problem, not mine. I'll be long gone by then, having gone knowing I did my best and fought when called.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   14:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#98)

Obama is a lot more intelligent and better read than Sharpton. McCain, on the other hand, is an intellectual midget. A semi-senile and semi-insane one.

The interesting thing about Obama's candidacy is that he owes next to nothing to either the black activist-extortionists (Sharpton, Jackson) and VERY little to the Clintons who didn't really campaign for him. He is going to be quite debt-free when he takes office and, hopefully, his natural decency will take over.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#98)

If McCain had Obama's resume and affiliations, I suspect there would be a different democrat to run as a republican.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-04   14:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Jethro Tull (#99) (Edited)

They LEFT because their politics suddenly swung to the LEFT.

I believe that Robin felt that she couldn't tolerate what she viewed as the extremely racist tone of the commentary at this site and because she was personally attacked and insulted when she expressed her disagreement with that.

Then, she was told that she could no longer 'bozo' the creeps - and she viewed you as one of them.

Are your recollections different?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#98)

I'm with you, but on *domestic policy* Sharpton is a killer for a white man. I know Al from Harlem and the WG'ers who are voting for his ilk are about to be introduced to some nasty stuff here at home.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   14:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#100)

his natural decency will take over.

It is so decent to leave a new born baby to die. It is so compassionate and decent to stick surgical instrument up some sluts cunt and rip a little baby to shreds. Obama is such a decent man.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-04   15:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Flintlock, a vast rightwing conspirator (#45)

I feel sorry for your kids, they'll prolly grow to be queers, if they're not already

You just can't get past those homo erotic thoughts, can you?

Sooner or later we'll learn where you were booted from, and why.

Not that it matters because Jim Crow Republicans like you are by definition enemies of freedom and you shouldn't be here at all.

The fact that you'd show up here with a new screen name believing that you have something meaningful to say doesn't change the fact that you're not a well person, and now you have to hide the truth about yourself in order to shill for one party or the other, and when people see through you, you try to bully and intimidate them.

Don't unpack your carpetbag. The best laid plans can melt down when angels piss in the flintlock of your musket.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-11-04   15:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine, vast right wing conspiracy (#92)

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

How true. I posted at the peoples republic of China or Peoples Forum or whatever they call it. I would get emails from Robin telling me what to say in my responses to people. Regularly. Really weird.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-04   15:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#95)

i'm not encouraging anything other than freedom of expression and respect for individualism.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   15:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#102)

I believe that Robin felt that she couldn't tolerate what she viewed as the extremely racist tone of the commentary at this site and because she was personally attacked and insulted when she expressed her disagreement with that. Are your recollections different?

Yes, my recollections are different. Robin became enthralled with the political left, and when Obama became the nominee, her white guilt oozed out of her pores like maple syrup in Maine. Like any good street organizer, she then used our PM function, and her moderator status, to notify people of a new - more pleasant - forum she was creating. I'm sure you were invited. Once Neil had built it on the sneak, she launched it and thankfully its been nothing more than a poor man's version of DU since. All this all on christine's dime, BTW. Speaking of which, how much have you contributed to keep 4um's lights on? Don't bother answering, I already know.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   15:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Old Friend (#106)

How true. I posted at the peoples republic of China or Peoples Forum or whatever they call it. I would get emails from Robin telling me what to say in my responses to people. Regularly. Really weird.

That would be called a pleasant posting experience.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   15:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

As you recall, she left because she felt she was forced to hear the BS coming from the likes of you and others after the 'bozo' option was disabled or restricted.

And, yes, she did let me know about her forum which I did visit a few times.

I did not contribute to the 4um because of a superstition. I was banned from the FR soon after I made my first contribution and my posting privileges were removed from LP after I made my first contribution there. I did consider supporting Christine but things (the way I saw them) started to deteriorate at that time and, right now, I would not find it appropriate to contribute.

For the record, I did make contributions to Obama's campaign.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   15:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

How true. I posted at the peoples republic of China or Peoples Forum or whatever they call it. I would get emails from Robin telling me what to say in my responses to people. Regularly. Really weird.

That would be called a pleasant posting experience.

This is hilarious.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-04   15:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#102)

your perception of what really happened is simplifed. there is a lot more that went on behind the scenes. remember there are two or more sides to every story.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   15:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: christine (#112)

I understand that and I understand that we can't have universal harmony or even local harmony. Maybe the three or the four of you should get together and have a drink or play pool or darts together but, of course, it's for you to work things out.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   15:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#110)

As you recall, she left because she felt she was forced to hear the BS coming from the likes of you and others after the 'bozo' option was disabled or restricted.

A moderator can't moderate if they have 15(+/-) people on bozo. She should have resigned if she was uncomfortable, but instead she stayed and used the 4um to launch her place. That you were invited on the hush, by PM, makes my case.

Also, it was learned, one of her harpies, an attorney and failed forum owner himself, used numerous sock puppets to jack up the bozo count on anyone who didn't lean left. It's funny how she felt no outrage over this, nor did she bothered to moderate his actions. He now resides at the Collective.

So you haven't contribute to 4um because of a superstition?

Thanks, I've now heard everything.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   15:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Jethro Tull, a vast rightwing conspirator, christine (#114)

A moderator can't moderate if they have 15(+/-) people on bozo. She should have resigned if she was uncomfortable, but instead she stayed and used the 4um to launch her place. That you were invited on the hush, by PM, makes my case.

After coming here I ran into problems with Robin because my views on AGW ran counter to hers. I complained about her constant personal attacks. It wasn't until recently that I found out she was a moderator. Not good behavior for someone with those responsibilities.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-04   15:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#110)

she left because she felt she was forced to hear the BS coming from the likes of you and others after the 'bozo' option was disabled or restricted.

robin wasn't forced to do anything. i tried a compromise in an attempt to please those for and against the bozo function by reducing the number from 20 to 10. that was unacceptable to robin, but the truth is, she had been growing increasingly unhappy here and had been planning her own forum which, btw, despite her being a 4um moderator, i only learned about after it was open for business.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   15:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: HOUNDDAWG (#105)

The best laid plans can melt down when angels piss

on your head

SCUMDAWG, I really enjoy the time you waste posting to me. Write me a book next time.

Have you fixed any tickets lately? Nope? That's what I thought

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-11-04   15:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Old Friend (#1)

Vast is bozod...too bad I can see his posts though..lol.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-04   15:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: IndieTX (#118)

I can see his posts though..lol.

vast is male? he writes like a girl

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-11-04   15:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, ALL (#0)

VAST:
The despicable losers, to use your words, are the Obamaphiles who are voting for the biggest corporate Statist Gun grabbbing lieing Commie racist sack of s**t that has ever been foisted upon us as a candidate. That includes you. Get lost.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-04   15:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Jethro Tull (#114) (Edited)

Thank you.

Time to start the live election thread. Yes, I know, THEY DESAME. It's gonna be fun and it won't hurt... much, you'll see.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   15:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: christine (#116)

THank you for leaving 20 Christine. I have 11 bozos. ;-)) It makes for a more peaceful viewing experience not to have to see the rantings of Communists and gun haters and police state lovers. Their true colors have shown in this election and bozo is right where they'll stay.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of its very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-11-04   15:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: christine (#116)

Robin now has her own forum and tells people what to say. ROFLMAO! BOZO wasn't big enough, she wants to control all sides of the conversation and dictate what others can and can't see.

Now Christine, Vast attempts as another poster around here has, to turn his problem and hers into a referendum on you and the freedoms this forum protect, by mistating the facts and showing extreme disrespect to you personally. If Vast has a little bitty problem, he should address it in a PM with you, but he doesn't get the attention he needs nor does it produce the desired effect from his caterwauling.

I wonder if Vast is actually Robin begging to come back.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-04   15:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: OliviaFNewton, christine (#123)

I wonder if Vast is actually Robin begging to come back.

She and FormerLurker used to accuse me of having posted at LP under another handle. It was ridiculous of course just as their accusations that I was a mouthpiece for big oil.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-11-04   15:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: farmfriend (#115)

After coming here I ran into problems with Robin because my views on AGW ran counter to hers.

This is how she chose to end things; she turned to the hard political left and enlisted other fellow travelers to run up bozo counts on people who she disagreed with. It was an attempt to demoralize folks she targeted. You are living proof. As christine mentioned, the first bozo remedy that was cobbled together wasn't the last. It's now unlimited and invisible. But again, it was her hard left political swing that caused her to leave, not a bozo limit.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   16:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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