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Title: Was the 4um Hijacked by the McCain's Losers? I think So
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Published: Nov 4, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-11-04 11:27:21 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 4176
Comments: 172

It's quite sad, actually, because the late McCainism on proud display at the 4um leaves the impression of a bunch of half-witted, hateful losers well... showing themselves as half-witted losers for the world to see and throw up.

Yes, I know, 'it makes no difference', 'it's all the same', 'it's 'them' who do these terrible things to poor 'us'' which, dear losers, it's just loser B.S. Last night, I watched some of the losers abandoning all decency and competing to say the more vile things about Obama's dead grandmother - that's where the 'world throwing up when noticing you' part comes from. You should be quite proud of yourself and make sure that you keep congratulating each other for your brilliant wits and moral fibers because no one else will.

Just to clarify. I am not saying that everyone who posts at this site is a despicable loser. The despicable losers may, in fact, be a small minority but, as far as I can see, they are the ones who are squealing and screaming and, possibly, keeping other decent persons away from this site. For the record, I find Christine as a most decent person, even if she doesn't always agree with me and there are others with whom I don't always agree but who are decent. Personally, I have no problems with disagreements but I also understand that no human (like myself) can have a meaningful dialogue or debate with pigs or chimps or McCain lovers (like the current frequent squealers) who claim that they are not McCain lovers. It would be great if some of them could evolve and improve.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Just to clarify. I am not saying that everyone who posts at this site is a despicable loser. The despicable losers may, in fact, be a small minority but, as far as I can see, they are the ones who are squealing and screaming and, possibly, keeping other decent persons away from this site.

I think you are a loser.

There now go ahead and name some names or are you a coward?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-11-04   11:31:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Old Friend (#1) (Edited)

How about everyone who contributed on the Obama's dead grandmother thread last night except for myself, you (I believe that your contribution was not indecent) and Christine?

Are you happy now?

Let me say it again: everyone who wrote vile and indecent things on that thread is a despicable, McCain-loving loser.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   11:34:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

i just reread the comments on that thread. no one cheered the death of obama's grandmother. what was expressed was suspicion and cynicism about the timing and circumstances of her passing.

further, your continuing to paint anyone who is not an obama supporter/worshipper as a mccain supporter/lover is guileful. the majority of 4um's members are against both. you know that.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   12:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: christine (#35)

our continuing to paint anyone who is not an obama supporter/worshipper as a mccain supporter/lover is guileful. the majority of 4um's members are against both. you know that.

Christine, I stated that I believe that the majority of this site's contributors are not terrible or despicable people. This is the quote:

"Just to clarify. I am not saying that everyone who posts at this site is a despicable loser. The despicable losers may, in fact, be a small minority but, as far as I can see, they are the ones who are squealing and screaming and, possibly, keeping other decent persons away from this site."

What I observed was the the despicable few tend to be a little bit hyper-active and they leave the impression that almost everyone who is a 4um fan is a terrible person, which is not true. It also happens that some of the more sensitive, decent or non-despicable contributors pack their bags, leaving the terrible ones behind. You know that this is happening. No? Contributors like these managed to destroy the once interesting site that LibertyForum was and turned LibertyPost into the joke that it appears to be today.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   13:49:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#80)

You seem to be inferring or suggesting that I ban and/or censor certain "contributors." Below is my free speech policy. Any and all are welcomed to exercise their right to freedom of association or non association.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   14:26:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#92) (Edited)

I never suggested that you banned anyone. I believe I stated that some just... left and that's a fact. It happens and it's natural. I, myself, haven't visited LibertyPost or LibertyForum in many months. I wasn't banned, I simply lost interest.

Does it seem that you are encouraging some of the more feeble-minded or bad- mannered who don't know better than 'debate' by personally attacking those they disagree with? I am afraid that it does seem to be the case. This is the way I see it and I am doing nothing but express my view on the topic.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:33:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#95)

I believe I stated that some just... left and that's a fact.

They LEFT because their politics suddenly swung to the LEFT. This after years, and years and years of pretending to be constitutionalists and freedom lovers. This after some were fed - literally - by some of us, when they were down on their luck. Our thanks was a smack in the face but we've come to expect that from the NEOLEFT. That they left and are LEFT is a tribute to the MSM, political correctness and white guilt. That you voted for a man who will place your kids into Marxist slavery is your problem, not mine. I'll be long gone by then, having gone knowing I did my best and fought when called.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   14:52:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Jethro Tull (#99) (Edited)

They LEFT because their politics suddenly swung to the LEFT.

I believe that Robin felt that she couldn't tolerate what she viewed as the extremely racist tone of the commentary at this site and because she was personally attacked and insulted when she expressed her disagreement with that.

Then, she was told that she could no longer 'bozo' the creeps - and she viewed you as one of them.

Are your recollections different?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   14:57:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#102)

I believe that Robin felt that she couldn't tolerate what she viewed as the extremely racist tone of the commentary at this site and because she was personally attacked and insulted when she expressed her disagreement with that. Are your recollections different?

Yes, my recollections are different. Robin became enthralled with the political left, and when Obama became the nominee, her white guilt oozed out of her pores like maple syrup in Maine. Like any good street organizer, she then used our PM function, and her moderator status, to notify people of a new - more pleasant - forum she was creating. I'm sure you were invited. Once Neil had built it on the sneak, she launched it and thankfully its been nothing more than a poor man's version of DU since. All this all on christine's dime, BTW. Speaking of which, how much have you contributed to keep 4um's lights on? Don't bother answering, I already know.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-11-04   15:08:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

As you recall, she left because she felt she was forced to hear the BS coming from the likes of you and others after the 'bozo' option was disabled or restricted.

And, yes, she did let me know about her forum which I did visit a few times.

I did not contribute to the 4um because of a superstition. I was banned from the FR soon after I made my first contribution and my posting privileges were removed from LP after I made my first contribution there. I did consider supporting Christine but things (the way I saw them) started to deteriorate at that time and, right now, I would not find it appropriate to contribute.

For the record, I did make contributions to Obama's campaign.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-11-04   15:15:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#110)

she left because she felt she was forced to hear the BS coming from the likes of you and others after the 'bozo' option was disabled or restricted.

robin wasn't forced to do anything. i tried a compromise in an attempt to please those for and against the bozo function by reducing the number from 20 to 10. that was unacceptable to robin, but the truth is, she had been growing increasingly unhappy here and had been planning her own forum which, btw, despite her being a 4um moderator, i only learned about after it was open for business.

christine  posted on  2008-11-04   15:33:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: christine (#116)

Robin now has her own forum and tells people what to say. ROFLMAO! BOZO wasn't big enough, she wants to control all sides of the conversation and dictate what others can and can't see.

Now Christine, Vast attempts as another poster around here has, to turn his problem and hers into a referendum on you and the freedoms this forum protect, by mistating the facts and showing extreme disrespect to you personally. If Vast has a little bitty problem, he should address it in a PM with you, but he doesn't get the attention he needs nor does it produce the desired effect from his caterwauling.

I wonder if Vast is actually Robin begging to come back.

OliviaFNewton  posted on  2008-11-04   15:44:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#124. To: OliviaFNewton, christine (#123)

I wonder if Vast is actually Robin begging to come back.

She and FormerLurker used to accuse me of having posted at LP under another handle. It was ridiculous of course just as their accusations that I was a mouthpiece for big oil.

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