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#1: Horse    To: Lod (#0)

A workman said immigrants did it. Lots of other churches are being burned down by Muslims. They also like to defecate in our churches.

Horse posted on 2019-04-15 15:34:09   Reply   Private Reply


#2: Lod    To: Horse (#1)

Hard to believe that a fire of that magnitude was not set intentionally.

Lod posted on 2019-04-15 16:14:47   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Esso    To: Lod, horse, 4um (#0)

From the look of all the scaffolding, at first blush I'd suspect a construction mishap before jumping to too many conclusions. The building was really old, the wood probably pretty darn dry.

That being said, this, like so many other events of late, we'll never really know the truth in this matter.

Why is my head telling me that this is going to be blamed on a cigarette smoking construction worker (like me)?

Well, I guess the World needs some new, strict anti-smoking laws.

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 16:48:48   Reply   Private Reply


#4: Dakmar    To: Esso (#3)

I'm expecting it to blamed on Yellow Vests.

Dakmar posted on 2019-04-15 16:50:12   Reply   Private Reply


#5: TommyTheMadArtist    To: Lod (#0)

The Insane Clown Posse ISIS tried to burn it down in 2016. Willing to bet it was Muslims but will be blamed on the yellow vest crowd. Macron needs a real distraction and now he has one.

TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2019-04-15 16:55:27   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Esso    To: Dakmar (#4)

I'm expecting it to blamed on Yellow Vests.

Yeah, that too.

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 17:44:58   Reply   Private Reply


#7: Lod    To: TommyTheMadArtist (#5)

Hard to believe that the Yellow Vests would burn their own cathedral.

Until proven otherwise, I'll go with muzzies as the perps.

Lod posted on 2019-04-15 17:52:58   Reply   Private Reply


#8: Esso    To: Dakmar (#4)

The story at ZeroHedge is a bit more in depth, but at the end of update 5, they say one of the spires was 15 feet. Surely they meant 15 metres?

Haven't even got to the 10 billion comments yet...

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 18:13:19   Reply   Private Reply


#9: BTP Holdings    To: Lod, all (#0)

I just posted Daily Caller story. Lots of Twitter pics at source. ;)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=224519&Disp=0

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-15 19:28:27   Reply   Private Reply


#10: Dakmar    To: Lod (#7)

Hard to believe that the Yellow Vests would burn their own cathedral.

No one here is suggesting that, although I'm sure it's made the rounds in higher circles. I was only suggesting Macron may not be above spinning a Reichstag fire narrative. Never let a good crisis go to waste, right bubbie?

Dakmar posted on 2019-04-15 19:34:07   Reply   Private Reply


#11: hondo68    To: Lod (#0)

Catholic CT freak Bill Donohue booted off Neil Cavuto show - Notre Dame fire


Bonus, Shepard Smith boots French (Catholic?) CT freak off his show.

hondo68 posted on 2019-04-15 19:35:13   Reply   Private Reply


#12: Dakmar    To: Esso (#8)

The story at ZeroHedge is a bit more in depth, but at the end of update 5, they say one of the spires was 15 feet. Surely they meant 15 metres?

That spire only dates to 1840's. The original was removed in 1786, because it was about to collapse.

Dakmar posted on 2019-04-15 20:03:03   Reply   Private Reply


#13: Esso    To: Dakmar, Lod, 4um (#10)

Never let a good crisis go to waste, right bubbie?

Damn, Dakkie, I remember when I used to be your bubbie. You even forgot my birthday this year. That's OK, I forgot it too.

The nice people at NASCAR reminded me via Email, the bastards. Hell, I already know I'm old.

Got a birthday card today from Farm Bureau Insurance (8 days late). Thought that was nice.

I don't have insurance with them.

If I die without meeting you in person, I'm gonna be so pissed! So close, yet so far.

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 20:04:34   Reply   Private Reply


#14: BTP Holdings    To: Esso (#8)

Haven't even got to the 10 billion comments yet...

Reading about this church fire triggered a memory of Our Lady of the Angels school fire in Chicago. Lots of kids were killed in that fire. ;)

en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Our..._Angels_School_(Illinois)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-15 20:08:22   Reply   Private Reply


#15: Esso    To: Dakmar (#12)

That spire only dates to 1840's. The original was removed in 1786, because it was about to collapse.

Thanks for that Dakkie. Don't really feel like doing a lot of research into something I don't care too much about. Still, from the scale, they must've meant metres.

Hell, my little house is probably only about 18 feet at the peak.

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 20:10:01   Reply   Private Reply


#16: Esso    To: BTP Holdings (#14)

A fire in the older north wing of the school occurred on December 1, 1958. It killed 92 students and 3 nuns and injured numerous others.

Thanks for the history lesson, B. A wee bit before my time, but tragic nonetheless.

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 20:28:30   Reply   Private Reply


#17: BTP Holdings    To: Esso (#16)

I was a toddler when that fire happened. Still it caused there to be huge fire upgrades in Chicago Public and Parochial Schools. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-15 20:31:39   Reply   Private Reply


#18: Esso    To: BTP Holdings (#17)

I was a toddler when that fire happened.

Damn, I always thought that you were a youngster. Don't know why exactly.

Maybe this should be "Freedom 4um Oldsters". :P

Esso posted on 2019-04-15 21:55:17   Reply   Private Reply


#19: Obnoxicated    To: Lod (#2)

We'll know who dunnit when they build a mosque on the site.

Obnoxicated posted on 2019-04-15 22:08:18   Reply   Private Reply


#20: GreyLmist    To: hondo68 (#11)

Catholic CT freak Bill Donohue booted off Neil Cavuto show - Notre Dame fire

Neil Cavuto shuts down guest when it's suggested there's a pattern. - YouTube, 1.75 mintes


Bonus, Shepard Smith boots French (Catholic?) CT freak off his show.

French Official Speculates Islamic Terrorism on Shep Smith - YouTube, 1.5 minutes


It's not a "CT"/Conspiracy Theory - or did you mean Coincidence Theory? The Keystone Cops freakiness of Cavuto and Smith's "speech policing" tactics (to censor what's been reported as a disaster of 9/11-level impact on France and Catholicism, with beaucoup verifiable evidence available of Anti-Christian terroristic-attacks on the rise there recently) was possibly demonstrated because: The speakers interviewed aren't persons of high-ranking dignitary-status, like Ehud Barak on 9/11/01 here.

Catholic Churches Are Being Desecrated Across France - Newsweek | 3/21/19 | Excerpts:

Mar 21, 2019 - France has seen a spate of attacks against Catholic churches since the start of the year, vandalism that has included arson and desecration.

Vandals have smashed statues, knocked down tabernacles, scattered or destroyed the Eucharist and torn down crosses, sparking fears of a rise in anti-Catholic sentiment in the country.

Last Sunday, the historic Church of St. Sulpice in Paris was set on fire just after midday mass on Sunday, Le Parisien reported, although no one was injured. Police are still investigating the attack, which firefighters have confidently attributed to arson.

Last month, at the St. Nicholas Catholic Church in Houilles, in north-central France, a statue of the Virgin Mary was found smashed, and the altar cross had been thrown on the ground, according to La Croix International, a Catholic publication.

Also in February, at Saint-Alain Cathedral in Lavaur, in south-central France, an altar cloth was burned and crosses and statues of saints were smashed.

And in the southern city of Nimes, near the Spanish border, vandals looted the altar of the church of Notre-Dame des Enfants (Our Lady of the Children) and smeared a cross with human excrement.

Consecrated hosts made from unleavened bread, which Catholics believe to be the body of Jesus Christ, were taken and found scattered among rubbish outside the building.

“This act of profanation hurts us all in our deepest convictions,” he added, according to The Tablet, which reported that in February alone there had been a record 47 documented attacks on churches and religious sites.

The Vienna-based Observatory of Intolerance and Discrimination Against Christians in Europe, which was founded in cooperation with the Council of European Bishops Conferences (CCEE) but is now independent said there had been a 25 percent increase in attacks on Catholic churches in the first two months of the year, compared with the same time last year. [The executive director, Ellen Fantini, told Newsweek ...]

“These attacks are on symbols that are really sacred to parishioners, to Catholics. Desecration of consecrated hosts is a very personal attack on Catholicism and Christianity, more than spray-painting a slogan on the outside wall of a church.”

On February 9, the altar at the church of Notre-Dame in Dijon, the capital of the Burgundy region, was also broken into. The hosts were taken from the tabernacle, which adorns the altar at the front of the church, and scattered on the ground.

Last month, the secretary general of the Bishops’ Conference, Olivier Ribadeau-Dumas, told France Culture that desecration of a church was not the same as a common burglary.

“To open the tabernacle, to take the hosts and to profane what for us is the basis of our faith, that is to say the presence of Jesus Christ in the hosts, is something that is terrible for us.”


This is the Christian Holy Week of Easter and this conflagration of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris happened one month to the exact day of reportedly blazing gunfire at two Mosques on the "Ides of March" 3-15-19 in Christchurch, New Zealand.

GreyLmist posted on 2019-04-16 14:12:54   Reply   Private Reply


#21: hondo68    To: GreyLmist (#20)

Fox News only supports Saudi-Israel Wahhabi Sunni terrorists like Donald & Bibi.

hondo68 posted on 2019-04-16 14:18:11   Reply   Private Reply