French President Macron Hopes to Rebuild Notre Dame in Five Years

Source: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/notre-dame-macron-rebuild/2019/04/16/id/911963/?ns_mail_uid=2323d800-6fd5-4c4b-9e1a-fa1f5099d953&ns_mail_job=DM24134_04162019&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502rybdrt
Published: Apr 16, 2019
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Post Date: 2019-04-18 16:59:04 by BTP Holdings
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French President Macron Hopes to Rebuild Notre Dame in Five Years

Tuesday, 16 April 2019 03:07 PM

President Emmanuel Macron pledged on Tuesday that France would rebuild the fire-devastated Notre Dame de Paris cathedral, saying he hoped the work would be done in five years and the French people would pull together to repair their national symbol.

Macron devoted a brief prime-time televised address to Monday's catastrophic blaze in the heart of the capital, again postponing planned remarks on his response to months of anti-government protests.

"We will rebuild Notre Dame even more beautifully and I want it to be completed in five years, we can do it," Macron said.

"It is up to us to convert this disaster into an opportunity to come together, having deeply reflected on what we have been and what we have to be and become better than we are. It is up to us to find the thread of our national project."

"This is not a time for politics," added Macron, who had canceled a speech planned on Monday evening on the response to the "yellow vest" protests.

He visited the site of the fire late on Monday and promised then to rebuild the cathedral, parts of which date to the 12th century.

The cathedral spire was destroyed and its roof gutted but the bell towers were still standing and many valuable art works were saved after more than 400 firemen worked to contain the blaze, finally quelling it 14 hours after it began.

As the city and the country grieved for a potent national symbol, billionaires, companies and local authorities were quick to offer donations.

Some 24 hours after the fire started, more than 750 million euros ($845 million) had been pledged, including 500 million from the three billionaire families that own France's giant luxury goods empires: Kering, LVMH and L'Oreal.

Paris public prosecutor Remy Heitz said there was no obvious indication the fire was arson. Fifty people were working on what would be a long and complex investigation, officials said.

The fire swiftly ripped through the cathedral's oak roof supports, where workmen had been carrying out extensive renovations to the spire's timber-framed supports. Police began questioning the workers involved, the prosecutor's office said.

One firefighter was injured but no one else was hurt, with the fire starting at around 6:30 p.m. after the building was closed to the public for the evening. Firefighters examined the facade, with its spectacular 10-meter filigreed stained-glass rose window still intact. They could be seen walking atop the belfries as police kept the area in lockdown.

Investigators will not be able to enter the cathedral's blackened nave until experts are satisfied its walls withstood the heat and the building is structurally sound.

"Yesterday we thought the whole cathedral would collapse. Yet this morning she is still standing, valiant, despite everything," said Sister Marie Aimee, a nun who had hurried to a nearby church to pray as the flames spread.

"CATHEDRAL OF THE PEOPLE"

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#1: Esso    To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#0)

President Emmanuel Macron pledged on Tuesday that France would rebuild the fire-devastated Notre Dame de Paris cathedral...

Not to be insensitive to anybody's delicate sensibilities, but did the Catholic church run out of money all-of-the-sudden?

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

Crap, don't answer that, I'm hopeless.

Government Good-Taxpayers, Pay-Up-Sucker!

Esso posted on 2019-04-18 17:21:18   Reply   Private Reply


#2: Dakmar    To: Esso (#1)

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

I don't think that well defined legal doctrine applies to foreign countries.

Dakmar posted on 2019-04-18 17:50:21   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Esso    To: Dakmar (#2)

I don't think that well defined legal doctrine applies to foreign countries.

Dammit, Yuri! Why you always pickin' on me?

OK, I understand that our Constitution doesn't apply to the whole world, but it just seems to be good, common sense.

You know damned well that I'm not nearly as well versed as you on most topics, but are there any places that are based on religion rather than the common good? Other than Vatican City?

Esso posted on 2019-04-18 18:09:58   Reply   Private Reply


#4: Lod    To: Esso (#1)

...did the Catholic church run out of money all-of-the-sudden?

No joke.

Lod posted on 2019-04-18 18:26:24   Reply   Private Reply


#5: Esso    To: Lod, 4um (#4)

No joke.

Loddy, my man, I'm just a simple, city-bound hick. Even though I might be brain damaged, I still understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between moral and immoral, and the truth and a lie.

They'll never take that from me. Only the Creator will. Hopefully, next time I might learn something new.

Esso posted on 2019-04-18 18:51:41   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Lod    To: Esso (#5)

I still understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between moral and immoral, and the truth and a lie.

Here's Waylon: you've hummed along to this one while enjoying a tall, cold one.

Remain strong, and hang in there with us, please.

Lod posted on 2019-04-18 19:39:16   Reply   Private Reply


#7: Dakmar    To: Esso (#3)

No government exists for the common good. I can name dozens of States based on religion, Israel and Saudi Arabia for instance.

Dakmar posted on 2019-04-18 20:48:41   Reply   Private Reply


#8: Esso    To: Lod, Cynicom, Dakmar, 4um (#6)

Remain strong, and hang in there with us, please.

Fellas, I don't think the Creator is ever gonna let me loose. I'll be here forever.

Shit, I'm not worried about going to Hell, I'm trying to get out of it.

You guys try to hang in there with me, please!

Esso posted on 2019-04-18 21:00:08   Reply   Private Reply


#9: Esso    To: Dakmar (#7)

No government exists for the common good. I can name dozens of States based on religion, Israel and Saudi Arabia for instance.

Well, I know that, but I'm not sure about Saudi Arabia. (Sorry, I'm using obfuscation).

I just learned the 'new' meaning of that today.

Esso posted on 2019-04-18 21:08:44   Reply   Private Reply


#10: Original_Intent    To: Esso (#1)

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

For one it never existed.

What the first Amend dictates is: "Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. ..." The purpose being to prevent the establishment of a state church such as the "Church Of England" to which everyone, member or not, had to support. It was not a prohibition against any particular religion or church merely a prohibition against the formation of an "official" church.

As for Notre Dame the building, Cathedral, it is owned by the country of France not the Vatican.

Original_Intent posted on 2019-04-19 02:43:56   Reply   Private Reply


#11: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt    To: BTP Holdings (#0)

"We will rebuild Notre Dame even more beautifully and I want it to be completed in five years, we can do it," Macron said.

"It is up to us to convert this disaster into an opportunity to come together, having deeply reflected on what we have been and what we have to be and become better than we are. It is up to us to find the thread of our national project."

"CATHEDRAL OF THE PEOPLE"

Translation: never let a crisis go to waste and.....Macron said:

"Notre- Dame would be re-built 'in a way consistent with our modern diverse nation'.

What does he mean? Notre-Dame as a multi-faith centre

He was speaking into @France24 mic. In subsequent loops the footage was cut just before he uttered it

.......

This is a very grave moment, a moment of decision. Is modern France and its leaders — political and cultural — really so vain as to think they can improve on the High Middle Ages? There are virtually no churches built in the past 100 years that will survive, or that deserve to. Any “improvements” to Notre Dame de Paris to make it reflect “our modern diverse nation” would be a desecration...."

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-cathedral-as-cube-notre-dame- de-paris/

===========================

"UPDATE: Macron quote is apparently fake. So that’s a relief."

[hmmmm. I wonder]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-04-19 18:10:22   Reply   Private Reply


#12: BTP Holdings    To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)

This is a very grave moment, a moment of decision. Is modern France and its leaders — political and cultural — really so vain as to think they can improve on the High Middle Ages? There are virtually no churches built in the past 100 years that will survive, or that deserve to. Any “improvements” to Notre Dame de Paris to make it reflect “our modern diverse nation” would be a desecration...."

Indeed, the Muslims who were allowed to enter the country said, "They allowed us to come in." ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-19 18:18:38   Reply   Private Reply


#13: BTP Holdings    To: Lod (#6)

Waylon Jennings

I shook Waylon's hand when he came off stage when The Highwaymen played in Chicago.

I was also personal security for Johnny Cash during the Meet & Greet after the show.

Willie had that dead look in his brown eyes, likely from smoking weed. LOL

They told me to follow Kris Kirstofferson out of the building to make sure nobody messed with him. He went up the stairs and I went up after him. When he got to the top landing he turned and looked at me. I told him what they told me, so he turned and kept going. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-19 18:38:00   Reply   Private Reply


#14: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt    To: BTP Holdings (#12)

note my edit above. the quote is supposedly fake. my apologies if so.

"Indeed, the Muslims who were allowed to enter the country said, "They allowed us to come in." ;) "

With open arms....

http://tapnewswire.com/2017/04/zionist-jews-happily-brag-about-being-at-the- center-of-the-muslim-invasion-of-europe/

BTW, TruNews video posted a few hours ago:

Notre Dame Ablaze. Israeli Rabbi Says Jews Obligated to Burn Down Churches

https://www.trunews.com/stream/notre-dame-ablaze-israeli-rabbi-says-jews- obligated-to-burn-down-churches-trunews

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-04-19 18:50:42   Reply   Private Reply


#15: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt    To: BTP Holdings (#14)

Notre Dame Ablaze. Israeli Rabbi Says Jews Obligated to Burn Down Churches

https://www.trunews.com/stream/notre-dame-ablaze-israeli-rabbi-says-jews- obligated-to-burn-down-churches-trunews

The first 20 or 30 minutes of each broadcast are usually news headlines. The discussion of the title starts at the end of the headlines. I only happened on this site in the last month or so. It's so refreshing to listen to Christians who aren't blind-sided by Zionism. What a relief.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2019-04-19 19:06:04   Reply   Private Reply


#16: BTP Holdings    To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

blind-sided by Zionism.

When I worked for the State of Illinois we had this big shot Engineer who wrote an Op-Ed for Chicago Tribune titled, I Am A Zionist.

He was in the yard one day and his car was dirty. I wrote "WASH ME" on it. When he saw it he started jumping up and down and screaming.

They made the yard toady wash his car. ROTFLMAO!

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-04-19 19:17:49   Reply   Private Reply


#17: strepsiptera    To: Esso, BTP Holdings (#1)

strepsiptera posted on 2019-04-20 00:07:36   Reply   Private Reply


#18: strepsiptera    To: All (#17)

The renovation of Notre-Dame was financed on a shoestring. Two years ago, as church officials sought €100 million for the project, they were forced to mount an international appeal to donors and charities after the French state, which owns the cathedral, shockingly agreed to give only €2 million per year. With the image of the gutted hulk of Notre-Dame now burned into the consciousness of millions of people around the world, it is clear that the resulting levels of fire safety staffing were tragically inadequate.

strepsiptera posted on 2019-04-20 00:08:04   Reply   Private Reply


#19: strepsiptera    To: Original_Intent (#10)

French separation of church and state goes much further than the American version

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laïcité

strepsiptera posted on 2019-04-20 00:19:07   Reply   Private Reply


#20: strepsiptera    To: All (#19)

] The 1905 law establishing separation did not use the word laïcité. It was not until the Constitution of 1946 (Constitution de 1946, IVe République) that the word appeared explicitly as a constitutional principle entailing legal effect, but without being further specified.[11] All religious buildings in France (mostly Catholic churches, Protestant chapels, and Jewish synagogues) became the property of the city councils. Those now have the duty to maintain the (often historical) buildings but cannot subsidize the religious organizations using them.

strepsiptera posted on 2019-04-20 00:23:16   Reply   Private Reply