Tulsi Gabbard Wrecks Dems With Powerful Anti-War Debate Answers

Source: https://reason.com/2019/06/26/tulsi-gabbard-wrecks-dems-with-powerful-anti-war/
Published: Jun 27, 2019
Author: staff
Post Date: 2019-06-27 06:07:53 by Horse
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Gabbard has made ending American intervention abroad the defining issue of her campaign.

While the rest of the candidates at the first Democratic debate tonight have been doing their best to out-socialist each other, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has been trying to keep the country out of war.

When asked whether she would rejoin the 2015 Iran nuclear deal—first negotiated by the Obama administration and withdrawn from by President Donald Trump—Gabbard gave an unequivocal yes, while warning about the dire consequences of war.

"War with Iran would be worse than war with Iraq," said Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran. "Donald Trump and his chickenhawk cabinet—Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, and others—are creating a situation where a spark would light a war with Iran. Trump needs to get back into the Iran deal, swallow his pride, and put America first."

Gabbard's position contrasts with the positions of other Democratic candidates on stage. Sen. Cory Booker (D–N.J.) was the lone debate participant to say that he would not automatically re-enter the Iran deal worked out by President Obama, suggesting a better deal could be had.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) said that, while she favored reentering the deal, she would like to push for stricter terms. Klobuchar also stressed that if a war with Iran were to occur, it would require congressional authorization.

Gabbard has kept the focus on the U.S.'s aggressive foreign policy the entire night. When asked about what she would do about the gender pay gap, the Hawaii representative declined to answer the moderators' lady question, instead choosing to denounce our current interventionist foreign policy.

Later in the debate, when Rep. Tim Ryan (D–Ohio) referenced the recent deaths of two U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan as a reason to continue our war in the country, Gabbard was having none of it.

"Will you tell the parents of those two soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan that we have to be engaged? That is unacceptable. We have lost so many lives, we have spent so much money," said Gabbard.

Drawing critical attention to America's interminable overseas wars has been the explicit purpose of Gabbard's longshot campaign from the beginning.

"There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace," said Gabbard, when announcing her intention to run to CNN's Van Jones.

This single-minded focus is unlikely to win her many votes, given the predominance of domestic policy in tonight's debate, and the Democratic primary as a whole.

That Gabbard was willing to duck a softball, red meat question about raising wages for women to focus on America's war-making abroad was nonetheless a refreshing moment amidst the otherwise dreary, shockingly left-wing rhetoric from the rest of the Democratic field on stage tonight.

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#1: Lod    To: Horse (#0)

I do like her "no war" policy talk, but, she's still not eligible to be POTUS.

Lod posted on 2019-06-27 07:53:21   Reply   Private Reply


#2: TommyTheMadArtist    To: Lod (#1)

What makes her ineligible? I have not heard.

TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2019-06-27 11:04:55   Reply   Private Reply


#3: Lod    To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

That was my passing on bad info without confirming it.

Lod posted on 2019-06-27 11:42:31   Reply   Private Reply


#4: X-15    To: Horse, All, *Shooters* (#0)

If Tulsi Gabbard claims to be anti-war but is willing to use the force of government to take arms from her fellow citizens is she really anti-war?? I think not....

X-15 posted on 2019-06-27 12:49:06   Reply   Private Reply


#5: Rotara    To: X-15 (#4)

It's like warning that Trump is a rabid Zionist during the primaries.

Lessor of two Zionists is still a devil; lessor of 2-gun grabbers is still a Jackboot.

Rotara posted on 2019-06-27 13:08:14   Reply   Private Reply


#6: Cynicom    To: X-15 (#4)

I have heard politicians of all stripes bang the anti war drum since the 1930s.

It is pure unadulterated horseshit.

Voting FOR someone that promises to keep us out of war is an act of stupidity.

Cynicom posted on 2019-06-27 13:19:29   Reply   Private Reply


#7: X-15    To: Cynicom (#6)

Just wait, I predict that Tulsi Gabbard will invoke Charles Lindbergh in order to authentically appear "anti-war". He retired to Hawaii, it'll be a match made in Democrat hell. No offense to Charles Lindbergh, he never budged from his position and he went to forward squadrons in the Pacific Theater to offer his aviation expertise.

X-15 posted on 2019-06-27 13:57:52   Reply   Private Reply


#8: Cynicom    To: X-15 (#7)

Just wait, I predict that Tulsi Gabbard will invoke Charles Lindbergh in order to authentically appear "anti-war"

War happens. There are evil men in this world. That fact never changes.

For anyone to swear they will keep us out of war is asinine, to vote for them is stupid. Bad men will always kill others for gain.

Cynicom posted on 2019-06-27 14:17:28   Reply   Private Reply


#9: TommyTheMadArtist    To: X-15 (#4)

Yeah an anti gunner makes her ineligible.

TommyTheMadArtist posted on 2019-06-27 15:04:20   Reply   Private Reply


#10: hondo68    To: Horse (#0)

Tulsi Gabbard Full Debate Performance | First 2020 Primary Debate Highlights

hondo68 posted on 2019-06-27 15:31:07   Reply   Private Reply


#11: Prefrontal Vortex    To: Horse (#0)

Justin Raimondo has passed. May he guard Tulsi from heaven.

Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2019-06-27 18:26:02   Reply   Private Reply


#12: Prefrontal Vortex    To: X-15 (#4)

It's not gonna take war. They'll just tax guns away.

Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2019-06-27 18:26:57   Reply   Private Reply


#13: hondo68    To: Prefrontal Vortex (#11)

Justin Raimondo has passed. May he guard Tulsi from heaven.

R.I.P. Justin.

hondo68 posted on 2019-06-27 19:09:17   Reply   Private Reply


#14: Lod    To: Prefrontal Vortex (#11)

I didn't know that he was not well. RIP

(Or if I did, I forgot.)

Lod posted on 2019-06-27 19:10:35   Reply   Private Reply


#15: BTP Holdings    To: Lod (#14)

I didn't know that he was not well. RIP

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justi n_Raimondo

Born: Nov 18, 1951 · White Plains, NY

Died: Jun 27, 2019 · Sebastopol, CA

Cause of death: Lung cancer

Was Justin a smoker?

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-06-27 20:26:21   Reply   Private Reply


#16: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#6)

I have heard politicians of all stripes bang the anti war drum since the 1930s.

Cyni, I'm sure you know they allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor to proceed since they had already broken the Jap Naval Code.

Why do you think the aircraft carriers were at sea? ;)

www.nytimes.com/1993/07/1...ic-nave-94- broke-japan-s-code-before-pearl-harbor.html

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-06-27 20:42:37   Reply   Private Reply


#17: Cynicom    To: BTP Holdings (#16)

they allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor to proceed since they had already broken the Jap Naval Code.

Patton told FDR in 1938 the Japs were coming.

With or without Pearl Harbor the war would have begun because the Japs invaded Guam on Dec. 8th. One day was of little importance.

On Guam we had 450 Marines, with rifles and one machine gun.

The Japs came with 5000 men, aircraft, tanks and cannon.

With or without Pearl Harbor FDR would have had his war.

If you check history, FDR and government started withdrawing American civilians from Pacific Islands in JUNE, long before the war started. Without Pearl Harbor the war would have been on regardless.

Cynicom posted on 2019-06-27 22:18:46   Reply   Private Reply


#18: Cynicom    To: BTP Holdings (#16)

Correction...Japs arrived Guam 10 Dec.

Cynicom posted on 2019-06-27 22:22:09   Reply   Private Reply


#19: Lod    To: All, GhostDogTXn, 4 (#3)

more on tulsi

so she can be a citizen, but not natural born citizen...I guess...help here

Tuaua v. United States

According to the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the people born in American Samoa – including those born on Swains Island – are “nationals but not citizens of the United States at birth”. If a child is born on any of these islands to any U.S. citizen, then that child is considered a national and a citizen of the United States at birth. In an amicus curiae brief filed in federal court, Samoan Congressman Faleomavaega supported the legal interpretation that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not extend birthright citizenship to United States nationals born in unincorporated territories.

All U.S. nationals have statutory rights to reside in the United States (i.e., the 50 states and Puerto Rico), and may apply for citizenship by naturalization after three months of residency by passing a test in English and civics, and by taking an oath of allegiance to the United States. However, the INA makes clear that any “national but not a citizen of the United States” who at any time has been convicted of any aggravated felony, whether the aggravated felony was committed inside or outside the United States, is “debarred from becoming a citizen of the United States”

Lod posted on 2019-06-27 22:37:43   Reply   Private Reply


#20: X-15    To: BTP Holdings, Cynicom (#16)

Cyni, I'm sure you know they allowed the attack on Pearl Harbor to proceed since they had already broken the Jap Naval Code.

Office of Naval Intelligence were on to the Japanese going back to 1925 and never lost the ability to keep on top of their supposedly encrypted messages right to the end of the war.

X-15 posted on 2019-06-27 22:51:55   Reply   Private Reply


#21: BTP Holdings    To: X-15 (#20)

Office of Naval Intelligence were on to the Japanese going back to 1925 and never lost the ability to keep on top of their supposedly encrypted messages right to the end of the war.

Yep ONI was on top of things.

But the bigger problem by far was the German code machine Enigma. U.S. forces finally were able to capture one of those machines and it lent greatly to the defeat of the Reich. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-06-27 23:00:01   Reply   Private Reply


#22: BTP Holdings    To: Cynicom (#18)

Thanks for your historical explanations, Cyni.

The U.S. was also selling Japan all of its scrap steel. This was something they needed for their war effort. ;)

BTP Holdings posted on 2019-06-28 07:08:56   Reply   Private Reply