Let's face it: despite one notable exception at Fox, Tucker Carlson, the conservative network remains stacked with war hawk pundits — especially when it comes to Washington's longtime arch-villain Iran. Almost two decades after 9/11, and after the rise of ISIS — both long documented to have had the hidden hand of Saudi state Wahhabism behind them — the US hawks still insist Tehran is the real global threat while "Riyadh is our friend".
Which is why it was so refreshing this week to see the thorn in the establishment Democratic presidential nominee Tulsi Gabbard so expertly and with ease dismantle Fox's remnant neocon talking points on Iran. As we've covered many times before, what makes her non-interventionist and anti regime change arguments so effective is that she herself has "skin in the game" — to use Taleb — as an Iraq War veteran and current Army reserve officer. She appeared on Fox where longtime anchor Neil Cavuto sought to skewer her recent biting criticisms of the Trump administration for acting like "Saudi Arabia's bitch" and not with "America first" in mind (a US foreign policy trend spanning administrations over decades).
Jake Mercier @jakemerci
Tulsi Gabbard wipes the floor with war hawk Neil Cavuto on the issue of Iran and Saudi Arabia
“Look Neil, I’m a soldier,” Gabbard began after Cavuto went on the offensive. “And I took an oath as a soldier as well as a member of Congress to support and defend our Constitution of the United States, to serve the American people.”
“And it’s a huge disgrace to hear our commander-in-chief basically put us in a position —the American people, our men and women in uniform, our military assets — in a position where we are servants of the Saudi kingdom. Standing by and awaiting their orders on how we should proceed.”
Jake Mercier @jakemerci Replying to @jakemerci
Part 2: Tulsi renders Cavuto speechless, explains that Saudi Arabia funds terrorism and that a war with Iran would make the Iraq war look like a “picnic”
Specifically she had criticized the president's early remarks following the twin attacks on Saudi Aramco facilities last week, where Trump tweeted he's "waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!".
The Your World anchor thought she would back down after point blank saying — “a president Gabbard would see Saudi Arabia as a bigger threat to our country than Iran.”
“What I would like to see is Saudi Arabia ending their support for Al-Qaeda,” the Hawaiian Congresswomen retorted.
It got further heated from there:
“I’m sorry, that’s not what I asked,” Cavuto said, pressing.
“I know,” Gabbard said. “You’re turning my words around.”
“I want to just be very clear,” Cavuto said. “You have a higher opinion of Iran than Saudi Arabia?”
“No, that’s not what I’m saying.”
Cavuto asked Gabbard to expand.
“I’m focused on how we can best keep the American people safe. On how we can make sure that we have our national security intact,” she said.
“And the Saudis are a bigger threat to that safety than Iran?!” Cavuto said.
“The Saudis are directly supporting the very terrorist group that attacked us on 9/11 and that continue to pose a threat to the American people today!” Gabbard said.
Cavuto looked exasperated and speechless by the end of it, in surely what was an outside-the-establishment argument that he wasn't used to hearing, given the norm of Fox (which prior to 2017 had a significant chunk of its parent company 21st Century Fox owned by Saudi investors) consistently toeing the Saudi line on everything from Syria to Yemen to Iran.
ndeed Gabbard remains a rare voice: as a veteran seeking to dismantle American Empire and its regime change wars abroad, akin to a "Ron Paul of the Left".
This is why it appears the Democrats are doing everything they can to keep her out of the debates, despite her consistently polling higher than some of those who do make it to the stage.
Poster Comment:
2 short videos at source.
Iran's policy will not allow the US to conduct strategic and limited strikes to degrade their defenses. Their policy is any US strike will result in Armageddon. Iran has the ability to kill every US service member in Central Command (Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatae and sink every ship in the Persian Gulf.) Iran has Mach 14 IRBM missiles, drones and unstoppable 800 mile range cruise missiles.
#1: NeoconsNailed To: Horse (#0)
Thanks for letting us know :-s
NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-09-21 21:04:53 Reply Private Reply
#2: Horse To: NeoconsNailed (#1)
Horse posted on 2019-09-21 21:31:53 Reply Private Reply
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-09-21 21:37:39 Reply Private Reply
#4: Cynicom To: Horse (#0)
Expertly???? Go back to sending airplanes full of cash to bad people???
Gabbard is totally lacking a background in history.
Cynicom posted on 2019-09-21 21:39:31 Reply Private Reply
#5: johnj To: Horse (#0)
Cayuto gives us a false choice --- we do not have to chose one or the other - we can tell both to go to hell.
That is what Gabbard is saying. She is right. Fix America.
We must tell Saudi, Iran, and Israel to F off!
johnj posted on 2019-09-22 15:03:07 Reply Private Reply
#6: Cynicom To: johnj (#5)
Chamberlain was loved because he championed peace, Churchill was a hated warmonger because he proposed restraining the three dictators.
Chaamberlain was a beloved hero, peace in our time.
Gabbard is in over her head, and it shows.
Cynicom posted on 2019-09-22 15:17:34 Reply Private Reply
#7: BTP Holdings To: johnj (#5)
The most important one to tell to F off is Israhell. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-09-22 15:48:28 Reply Private Reply
#8: BTP Holdings To: NeoconsNailed (#3)
Quite a trio of names you list. And, yes, Tulsi has soldier fever of the brain.
Some nut called me on the home phone a few years back. He said, "You were in the National Guard." I said, "Nope."
Then he said, "Then you worked for the National Guard."
I said, "Not at all. Where are you getting your information?"
When they get your name they think they know everything about you. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-09-22 15:56:01 Reply Private Reply
#9: sneakypete To: Horse (#0)
And it will remain that way as long as deposits keep getting made in off-shore accounts,and children get stock and/or board seats on foreign or international corporations.
And.....,MOST IMPORTANTLY,as long as we keep electing professional politicians to public office. ESPECIALLY "legacy" professional politicians whose familes have made and are making careers from serving in public office.
Trump,with all his faults,is a breath of fresh air. America got lucky.
sneakypete posted on 2019-09-22 17:03:13 Reply Private Reply
#10: Horse To: Cynicom (#6)
Horse posted on 2019-09-22 17:19:33 Reply Private Reply
#11: Cynicom To: Horse (#10)
However, Israel HAS NUKES and will use them if Middle East goes to hell.
Small countries with nukes is a very dangerous world.
Example, if we withdraw from Asia, Japan will have nukes in six months.
Middle East goes to war, World War III is on.
Withdrawal, come home is the proper and logical thing to do. However we tried burying our heads in the sand twice before.
Cynicom posted on 2019-09-22 17:37:39 Reply Private Reply
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Cynicom posted on 2019-09-22 17:54:54 Reply Private Reply
#13: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#11)
The Versailles Treaty sowed the seeds for WW II and the rise of Hitler.
The U.S. had already broken the Jap Naval Code so they knew Pearl Harbor was on. Why do you think the aircraft carriers were at sea? ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-09-22 18:22:36 Reply Private Reply
#14: X-15 To: Horse (#0)
X-15 posted on 2019-09-22 21:12:47 Reply Private Reply
#15: johnj To: X-15 (#14)
Those that want everything - get nothing!
johnj posted on 2019-09-22 23:58:35 Reply Private Reply
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X-15 posted on 2019-09-23 00:34:43 Reply Private Reply
#17: BTP Holdings To: johnj (#15)
The 2nd Amendment in non-negotiable. Right now the U.N. Small Arms Treaty has been signed but not ratified by the Senate. As long as the Senate remains in Republican hands it should stay that way. ;)
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-09-23 01:36:45 Reply Private Reply
#18: Horse To: Cynicom (#12)
Horse posted on 2019-09-23 01:36:56 Reply Private Reply
#19: johnj To: X-15 (#16)
First – we are arguing about nothing. You may hate Gabbard – but it is obvious that the Jews hate her even more. They will never ever let her be president.
If a Dem wins the presidency – you can bet that we will get someone far more strident about guns, then she.
johnj posted on 2019-09-23 02:29:50 Reply Private Reply
#20: Cynicom To: Horse (#18)
What?????
Nosty was a fraud???? Just damn. First Santa, then the tooth fairy, now this.
Cynicom posted on 2019-09-23 03:50:22 Reply Private Reply
#21: Horse To: Cynicom (#20)
Horse posted on 2019-09-23 07:30:39 Reply Private Reply
#22: BTP Holdings To: Cynicom (#20)
ROTFLMAO!
BTP Holdings posted on 2019-09-23 09:38:54 Reply Private Reply
#23: NeoconsNailed To: BTP Holdings (#8)
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How can I talk that way to any fellow humans, some may ask? Try it, you'll like it!
NeoconsNailed posted on 2019-09-24 04:47:25 Reply Private Reply